Police Misconduct Catch All Thread

[Jarhyn]

And another one from the same lawyer's channel:

Man finishes work at restaurant and waits on curb for dad to give him a ride home.
Cop approachs man and demands ID.
Man rightfully refuses, and tells cop that he has just finished work and is waiting for a ride.
Cop forces man to the ground, arrests him for "obstruction" and "disorderly conduct", and transports him to jail. No warrant, no probable cause that man has committed any crimes.
Charges are dropped.
Man files suit against cop and city.
Federal court strips the cop of Qualified Immunity and approves trial.

It's events like these, both the stripping of immunity, and the arrest itself, that this is all about.

In many ways, it is a creation and placement of messages that stand in the recent and tribal memories of the communities they happen in. They made examples which can always be escalated if they are not heeded.

There are many such moments of history that resonate like a ringing gong to the tone of "mind your place, <insert slur here>", Selma to name one of many.

And this is just a smaller, pettier version of that.

The only way to actually answer such evils is to voluntarily remit something just as meaningful, if not more, than what was lost.

What then is the way to answer this evil, of petty, stomping, abuse?

I personally think it is to see everyone who keeps doing it get removed from any position of power and possibly sent to remedial socialization training or a place for antisocial persons to be antisocial with each other -- like Alabama, or the GOP senate.

*maybe a new reroll of the "escape" series where Democrats take over. You saw Escape From New York. You saw Escape From LA. See now: Escape From Alabama!

 

[ZiprHead]

I can't tell from the video but I wonder if the guy was wearing a Dickey's uniform/t-shirt.

 

[atrib]

Yet another instance of thugs with badges acting like tyrants.
The police confront a homeless veteran who was allegedly panhandling.
The police arrest the man, even though the civil penalty for panhandling is often just a fine (no jail time).
The police taze and kill his dog, even though said animal posed no threat to anyone.
The police fight the FOIA request to release bodycam footage to the public and do so only when ordered by a judge. I wonder why they didn't want the public to know about their heroic actions.



Most statutes against panhandling are unconstitutional, even though many jurisdictions still have them on the books. Simply asking someone for money in a public space without impeding their right to progress is considered protected speech, and there is a ton of case law on this, most recently in Districts 4 and 11. This is one of the reasons law enforcement agencies in Florida are now instructed NOT to pursue action against alleged panhandlers. NC, where this incident happened, is in District 4.

The suspect was arrested despite complying with the officers' requests, especially their request to provide ID.

As can be seen on the video, the dog was not aggressive, and did not pose a threat to anyone at the scene. There is precedent for stripping police officers of their qualified immunity for cases where they unnecessarily kill peoples' dogs, and I hope this cop gets his ass sued in Federal court.

This is how police abuse the homeless; in this case, the subject of their abuse is also a veteran. They go after the most vulnerable people in our society, many of whom have mental health problems, and have very little ability to defend themselves against such abuse and hold their abusers responsible. They do this every day, and most of us who are more fortunate never get to hear of their excesses.

 

[ZiprHead]

"He just bit me. He just bit me."

Fucker.

 

[atrib]

It's a crime for law abiding citizens to not identify themselves in America. It's why "show your ID" should be added to the pledge of allegiance and replace In God We Trust on US currency.

While cops are allowed to approach people in public spaces and ask for ID, they cannot lawfully compel people to provide ID unless they have reasonable, articulable suspicion (RAS) that the person has committed/is committing a crime. The suspicion has to be specific as to the nature of the crime, and grounded on objective facts, not feelings or vague suspicions. This is true regardless of whether you live in a state that has its own "Stop and ID Laws" - for the demand to be lawful under the 4th Amendment requirements, there has to be reasonable, articulable suspicion.

However, cops are NOT required to inform the suspect of this RAS at the time of the encounter, which makes such field detentions somewhat difficult to navigate for the suspect. If you live in a Stop and ID State, and you don't want to deal with the hassle of potentially being falsely arrested and transported to jail, it makes sense to provide your ID upon demand and fight the matter later with IA complaints and/or civil suits. The RAS standard is subjective, and the cop can always make up something later when he has had some time to collect his thoughts, and refusing to provide ID in a Stop and ID state can be a chargeable offense. In a non- Stop and ID state, you typically have no legal requirement to ID yourself unless you are arrested for a crime, and you can be more comfortable in standing your ground against illegal demands for ID by cops.

Of course, none of this applies if you are the operator of a motor vehicle on a public street, as most states have laws that allow cops to check your license under pretty much any circumstance involving a stop.

 

[atrib]

"He just bit me. He just bit me."

Fucker.

That was for the bodycam, to set up a defense for a potential lawsuit.
What kind of animal kills a friendly dog to flex their authority?

 

[Gospel]

And for the homeless they always only have access to public defenders and public defender offices are usually housed on the same property as state prosecutor's office. They see the state prosecutor, their teams and officers outside the courtroom every single day.

Even medieval Europeans thought the executioner paling around with those they may have to execute was a bad idea. It's a wonder why public defenders suck so much, they're expected to work against those that can rightfully be perceived as co-workers.

It's a joke. Honestly, private lawyers should be able to receive payment from the state for cases where a defendant doesn't trust state appointed defenders (granted they accept what the state would pay their appointed defender). At least then when the lawyer sucks it's not them sucking the State's $!#@/.

 

[atrib]

And for the homeless they always only have access to public defenders and public defender offices are usually housed on the same property as state prosecutor's office.

For criminal cases, yes. You can get a public defender at state expense if you are charged with a crime and cannot afford a lawyer. But, there is no taxpayer funded public lawyer for civil cases where you may want to sue the government, and/or individual representatives of the government like police officers for violating your rights. You have to pay for your own lawyer, or convince one to take on your case for a portion of your winnings, if you win. This is one of the reasons police feel so emboldened to abuse the homeless and the poor, and not so much the well heeled people who are likely to have the financial resources to hold them accountable.

They see the state prosecutor, their teams and officers outside the courtroom every single day.

I don't necessarily see this as a conflict of interest. The prosecutors often work with the public defenders to expedite cases and work out plea agreements, and their relationship is more collegial than conspiratorial. That doesn't mean public defenders aren't horribly overworked, with caseloads that make it impossible for them to actually do their best for each client.

It's a joke. Honestly, private lawyers should be able to receive payment from the state for cases where a defendant doesn't trust state appointed defenders (granted they accept what the state would pay their appointed defender). At least then when the lawyer sucks it's not them sucking the State's $!#@/.

A lot of jurisdictions will appoint private lawyers, and pay them some compensation to defend indigent people who cannot be defended by the state public defenders office due to lack of resources. Judges even do this from the bench - calling on private lawyers who happen to be in the courtroom at the time to take on such cases.

 

[marc]

Denver police shoot 7 people.

They were only after one, the rest were in a crowd at least 20 feet away behind the guy when one of the cops started shooting. Oh, and the shooting started as the guy was dropping his gun.

 

[blastula]

According to this, the dog wasn't directly killed by the tasing nor at the time.

Homeless veteran loses service dog; NC community rallies | Charlotte Observer.

After Rohrer’s arrest, police said, Gaston County Animal Care and Enforcement took custody of Sunshine and later released the dog to a friend of Rohrer’s choosing. “That friend took Sunshine to a home in Cleveland County,” police said in the statement. “According to posts made on social media by friends of Mr. Rohrer, Sunshine left the premises where she was being temporarily housed, entered a roadway, and was struck and killed by a passing vehicle.”

 

[blastula]

Warning, disturbing footage of police misconduct.

 

[Jarhyn]

Warning, disturbing footage of police misconduct.

Of course, they only investigate if the public manages to have an independent witness. If every person to interact had the power to make bodycam footage of their interaction public or to sue the department, you can be damn sure this would stop in a heartbeat.

 

[blastula]

More on the above.

2 Arkansas deputies suspended and 1 officer on administrative leave after video posted of violent encounter with man outside store

Three Arkansas law enforcement officers have been removed from duty and are facing state and federal investigations, officials confirmed Monday, after bystander video captured at least two of them punching and kneeing a suspect during an arrest.

www.cnn.com

 

[ZiprHead]

 

[Toni]

Police shoot man while he was hugging his aunt at his father’s funeral. No picture of son who was killed by police but father was white. If that matters to anyone.

Man dead after officer-involved shooting at Nutter Fort funeral home

A man is dead after an officer-involved shooting that happened at the Amos Carvelli Funeral Home in Nutter Fort on Wednesday afternoon.

www.wowktv.com

 

[ZiprHead]

Police Arrest Alabama Pastor for ( No Joke) Watering Flowers

I know that police arrest Black people for anything these days but this is just outrageous. A Childersburg, Ala. pastor was arrested while watering his neighbor’s flowers, according to WBRC. Per the video footage, several witnesses confirmed he was supposed to be there but the officers refused...

www.yahoo.com

According to the report, Jennings’ family also arrived to confirm his identity but the officers took him to jail and charged him with obstruction of government operation, which was dropped a month later. Now, the pastor is preparing a discrimination lawsuit against the police department.

Let’s just call a spade a spade. Jennings was racially profiled. For most states, you are not required to provide identification unless an officer has probable cause to believe you’re up to something criminal. The pastor was literally watering flowers.

 

[Gospel]

They're just giving it away so please don't blame black folks for taking it.

 

[Derec]

Police shoot man while he was hugging his aunt at his father’s funeral. No picture of son who was killed by police but father was white.

Given that CNN and other MSM are not running his photo holding an out-of-wedlock child or an old photo of him when he was 15, it is pretty safe to assume he was white.

If that matters to anyone.

It certainly matters as far as media coverage, possibility of riots, or the likelihood that Merrick Garland will charge anyone and the likelihood of a multimillion dollar payout even when the shooting is justified.

 

[ZiprHead]

Inmate Who Was Pregnant Settles Suit Over Stop at Starbucks en Route to a Hospital

Sandra Quinones, six months pregnant, was at a jail in Orange County, Calif., when her water broke in March 2016, according to court records.
She pushed the call button in her cell for two hours without a response, and when county employees finally did take her to a hospital, they stopped at a Starbucks along the way, her lawyer said in a federal lawsuit. She lost the pregnancy, according to court records.
On Tuesday, the Orange County Board of Supervisors voted unanimously in a closed session to pay Ms. Quinones $480,000 to settle a civil rights lawsuit she had filed in federal court that claimed denial of medical care, negligent treatment and other violations.

An Orange County Sheriff’s Department spokesman declined to comment about the lawsuit or the settlement. Phone and email messages left for the board chairman and a lawyer representing the county were not immediately returned on Sunday.

When she went into labor, Ms. Quinones was in the middle of serving 70 days in jail after she was arrested in Buena Park for possession of a controlled substance and possession of a controlled substance for sales, according to the Orange County Sheriff’s Department.

A lawyer for Ms. Quinones, Richard P. Herman, wrote in the lawsuit, which was filed in April 2020 and later amended, that the unnamed county employees had decided not to call an ambulance.

Instead, he said, they took Ms. Quinones, then 28, to the hospital on a “nonemergency basis.” While the employees stopped at a Starbucks, Ms. Quinones was in the back of a van, bleeding and in labor, the lawsuit said. The suit did not say how long the stop at the Starbucks lasted.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

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In the video, officers knock on the apartment door multiple times and identify themselves before two men come out and are handcuffed. Police then stand at the doorway with guns pointed and loudly announce that they will send in a dog.

“Columbus police. If you are inside, make yourself known,” one officer says. Off camera, a man can be heard saying “they are sleeping.” The officer repeats, “Come on out. Come out now.”

One officer then follows a police dog to Lewis’s room and opens the door. Immediately after a light illuminates Lewis propping himself on his mattress, the officer shoots. As Lewis writhes and moans in the bed, he is told to “crawl” out of the room and to stop resisting arrest. He was handcuffed on the bed and died in a hospital shortly after.

This seems to be one of those, the guy ain't living after the apartment is entered by the Police events. Guy reacts upon awaking to people yelling at him... and gets shot.