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Roe v Wade is on deck

The abortion pill hasn't even be ruled against the law... and Walgreens is no longer selling it in red states. JFC!

The market is bending to the authoritarian arm of the GOP... without even being ordered to by the courts. They are simply giving up.
article said:
The nation’s second-largest pharmacy chain confirmed Thursday that it will not dispense abortion pills in several states where they remain legal — acting out of an abundance of caution amid a shifting policy landscape, threats from state officials and pressure from anti-abortion activists.

Nearly two dozen Republican state attorneys general wrote to Walgreens in February, threatening legal action if the company began distributing the drugs, which have become the nation’s most popular method for ending a pregnancy.

The company told POLITICO that it has since responded to all the officials, assuring them that they will not dispense abortion pills either by mail or at their brick-and-mortar locations in those states.
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Jimmy Higgins said:
The abortion pill hasn't even be ruled against the law... and Walgreens is no longer selling it in red states. JFC!

The market is bending to the authoritarian arm of the GOP... without even being ordered to by the courts. They are simply giving up.
article said:
The nation’s second-largest pharmacy chain confirmed Thursday that it will not dispense abortion pills in several states where they remain legal — acting out of an abundance of caution amid a shifting policy landscape, threats from state officials and pressure from anti-abortion activists.

Nearly two dozen Republican state attorneys general wrote to Walgreens in February, threatening legal action if the company began distributing the drugs, which have become the nation’s most popular method for ending a pregnancy.

The company told POLITICO that it has since responded to all the officials, assuring them that they will not dispense abortion pills either by mail or at their brick-and-mortar locations in those states.
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I'm not going to blame them here. Why should they put their people at risk? Put the blame where it belongs, with the QOP.
 
www.chron.com

Houston-area Republican wants to ban websites explaining how to get abortions

The bill would outlaw creating, editing, publishing or maintaining websites that help...
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A Texas Republican has introduced a bill that would restrict access to information on how to obtain an abortion or abortion pills online. Dubbed the Women and Child Safety Act, the legislation authored by Houston-area state Rep. Steve Toth would require Internet service providers (ISPs) to "make every reasonable and technologically feasible effort to block Internet access to information or material intended to assist or facilitate efforts to obtain an elective abortion or an abortion-inducing drug."

Should HB 2690 pass, it would also make it illegal to create, edit, publish, host, maintain, or register a domain name for a website that helps people seek abortions. The legislation's text specifically singles out web sites by Aid Access, Hey Jane, Plan C, Choix, Just the Pill and Carafem. Similarly to Senate Bill 8, it encourages individuals to sue people or organizations that violates the proposed law. It would also criminalize abortion fund websites that help Texans to obtain abortions in other states—even if abortion is legal in those places.
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Anyone else think of China after reading this?
 
Trump appointed Fed. Judge seems open to ruling "whatever the fuck he wants" in Texas abortion drug case. (gifted) I am quoting what the judge is thinking, not what he actually stated.

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While the antiabortion group challenging the drug acknowledged there is no precedent for a court to order the suspension of a long-approved medication, U.S. District Judge Matthew Kacsmaryk questioned whether mifepristone has met the rigorous federal standard necessary to be prescribed to patients in the United States.

He asked a lawyer for the group whether the court could unilaterally withdraw FDA approval for a drug, and engaged with attorneys for both sides about whether mailing the pills should be prohibited because of a 19th-century law that bans sending articles “for any indecent or immoral use” through the Postal Service.
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This case is effectively providing the second step to a 5-4 or 6-3 decision that rules life begins at conception*.

This is yet another hyper-technical attempt to undo things that have been by finding violations that don't exist in reality, but can exist in the imagination. This sort of thing used to not be possible since Brown v Board of Education which ruled stuffing your head in the sand and saying "it isn't racist" didn't actually provide equal protection.
 
(Probably meterwalled)
slate.com

The Legal Argument for Banning the Abortion Pill Is Based on a Lie

It is an extremely ominous sign that Kacsmaryk appeared to agree with this false history.
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The abortion pill court challenge is based on a false description of the situation. It was approved using provisions from the accelerated approval rules--but they were provisions about putting additional restrictions on a drug that are part of the same measure, it wasn't by any means an accelerated approval.
 
For me, not for thee:
www.fwweekly.com

Shut Out

Kara Cunningham says that, “ironically,” she “just didn’t want to get him fired.” The 34-year-old mother of two is talking about Everett Trost. The man she claims impregnated her last winter served as her direct supervisor at Patriot Mobile, the multimillion-dollar Grapevine cell phone company...
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CTO of a far-right company knocked up a woman, tried to pressure her into an abortion.
 
www.cbsnews.com

Idaho hospital to stop labor and delivery services citing "political climate" and doctor shortages

Abortion bans have made it increasingly challenging for rural hospitals nationwide to attract qualified staff.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com
An Idaho hospital will stop labor and delivery services, citing doctor shortages and the "political climate," the hospital announced Friday.

"Highly respected, talented physicians are leaving. Recruiting replacements will be extraordinarily difficult," Bonner General Health, located in the city of Sandpoint, said in a news release.

Pregnant women who utilized Bonner General, a 25-bed hospital, will now have to drive to hospitals or birthing centers in Coeur d'Alene or Spokane to give birth.

In 2022, doctors delivered 265 babies at Bonner General and admitted less than 10 pediatric patients, the hospital said.

In the wake of the Supreme Court ruling overturning Roe v. Wade, abortion bans have added another challenge to rural hospitals that have struggled to keep their doors open and their facilities fully staffed and running.
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ZiprHead said:
www.cbsnews.com

Idaho hospital to stop labor and delivery services citing "political climate" and doctor shortages

Abortion bans have made it increasingly challenging for rural hospitals nationwide to attract qualified staff.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com
An Idaho hospital will stop labor and delivery services, citing doctor shortages and the "political climate," the hospital announced Friday.

"Highly respected, talented physicians are leaving. Recruiting replacements will be extraordinarily difficult," Bonner General Health, located in the city of Sandpoint, said in a news release.

Pregnant women who utilized Bonner General, a 25-bed hospital, will now have to drive to hospitals or birthing centers in Coeur d'Alene or Spokane to give birth.

In 2022, doctors delivered 265 babies at Bonner General and admitted less than 10 pediatric patients, the hospital said.

In the wake of the Supreme Court ruling overturning Roe v. Wade, abortion bans have added another challenge to rural hospitals that have struggled to ketep their doors open and their facilities fully staffed and running.
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At 1st glance I am puzzled why abortion restrictions would prevent a hospital from delivery babies. Certainly affect any requested abortions but why affect deliveries of children? Perhaps there is a nuance I am missing?
 
Tigers! said:
ZiprHead said:
www.cbsnews.com

Idaho hospital to stop labor and delivery services citing "political climate" and doctor shortages

Abortion bans have made it increasingly challenging for rural hospitals nationwide to attract qualified staff.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com
An Idaho hospital will stop labor and delivery services, citing doctor shortages and the "political climate," the hospital announced Friday.

"Highly respected, talented physicians are leaving. Recruiting replacements will be extraordinarily difficult," Bonner General Health, located in the city of Sandpoint, said in a news release.

Pregnant women who utilized Bonner General, a 25-bed hospital, will now have to drive to hospitals or birthing centers in Coeur d'Alene or Spokane to give birth.

In 2022, doctors delivered 265 babies at Bonner General and admitted less than 10 pediatric patients, the hospital said.

In the wake of the Supreme Court ruling overturning Roe v. Wade, abortion bans have added another challenge to rural hospitals that have struggled to ketep their doors open and their facilities fully staffed and running.
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At 1st glance I am puzzled why abortion restrictions would prevent a hospital from delivery babies. Certainly affect any requested abortions but why affect deliveries of children? Perhaps there is a nuance I am missing?
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"Highly respected, talented physicians are leaving." They can't keep OB-GYNs.
 
Tigers! said:
At 1st glance I am puzzled why abortion restrictions would prevent a hospital from delivery babies. Certainly affect any requested abortions but why affect deliveries of children? Perhaps there is a nuance I am missing?
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Consider that every miscarriage will be treated as murder scene.
 
Tigers! said:
ZiprHead said:
www.cbsnews.com

Idaho hospital to stop labor and delivery services citing "political climate" and doctor shortages

Abortion bans have made it increasingly challenging for rural hospitals nationwide to attract qualified staff.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com
An Idaho hospital will stop labor and delivery services, citing doctor shortages and the "political climate," the hospital announced Friday.

"Highly respected, talented physicians are leaving. Recruiting replacements will be extraordinarily difficult," Bonner General Health, located in the city of Sandpoint, said in a news release.

Pregnant women who utilized Bonner General, a 25-bed hospital, will now have to drive to hospitals or birthing centers in Coeur d'Alene or Spokane to give birth.

In 2022, doctors delivered 265 babies at Bonner General and admitted less than 10 pediatric patients, the hospital said.

In the wake of the Supreme Court ruling overturning Roe v. Wade, abortion bans have added another challenge to rural hospitals that have struggled to ketep their doors open and their facilities fully staffed and running.
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At 1st glance I am puzzled why abortion restrictions would prevent a hospital from delivery babies. Certainly affect any requested abortions but why affect deliveries of children? Perhaps there is a nuance I am missing?
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Because there is far more demand than supply. There are only so many obstetricians etc willing to work for barebones Idaho wages in the first place, nor have they invested in the physical infrastructure of medical care.

If they outlawed chocolate ice cream, what would happen to hazelnut sales?
 
Not every pregnancy has a happy outcome, although modern humans believe that every pregnancy will have a happy outcome.

Some medical conditions ( pre eclampsia is an example) can arise during a pregnancy which are life threatening to the mother and can only be resolved by delivery of the baby. Sometimes delivery needs to happen before the fetus is mature enough to survive outside the womb if the mother is to survive. If the mother dies, so does the fetus. Sometimes, the result is simply a profoundly disabled mother and a baby so premature that it is also profoundly disabled.

Usually what happens is that the baby is delivered as soon as they believe it is viable, unless they are otherwise able to sufficiently lower the mother’s blood pressure without delivering the child.

This is a no-win situation that can result in the loss of the mother and the fetus, expensive lawsuits, and now, charges of murder for the doctors who delivered the premature child if the child does not survive. Of course zealots don’t care if the mother dies. Woman’s lot and all that jazz.

Sometimes couples very much want to have a baby and do everything exactly as they should but something terrible goes wrong and the developing fetus has conditions that are not compatible with life. It cannot survive longer than seconds or minutes or hours after birth. Sometimes, the baby dies before it is born. Sometimes, the woman does not naturally go into labor for some days, or even a week or two. She is carrying a dead fetus that begins to decay, as everything dead will do. In some states and in some hospitals in any state ( don’t have a baby in a Catholic hospital!) they will not induce labor or deliver the dead fetus until the mother goes into labor naturally —unless her life is actually threatened as evidenced by developing something like sepsis. But the baby is dead and eventually sepsis will develop which will cause the mother’s life to be in danger. At THIS point, hospitals in states with a anti-abortion statutes will then deliver the baby. Maybe the woman survives. Maybe she doesn’t. Maybe her uterus or Fallopian tubes are so damaged or her kidneys or heart, that another pregnancy is impossible or terribly unwise. Oh, well.

There are, unfortunately, many other scenarios that can end up with the same choice: deliver a fetus that has little or no chance to live but the mother survives or the mother dies too, or is disabled or unable to have more children. Too bad for her, her spouse, her family and of course, any other children she has.

Obstetricians do not become obstetricians because they want legislators and religious zealots to tell them how to care for their patients. Especially ones which have no knowledge of biology, reproduction or the correct names for parts of a woman’s anatomy. They do not want to be forced to endanger their patients’ lives, or to cause unnecessary additional risk or suffering, physical or emotional. They don’t want to be sued. They don’t want to be charged with murder or to lose their license.

Who would want to be an obstetrician in an anti-abortion state?

Who would want to be a woman in such a state?

Why don’t men care?
 
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