Sick of all the gay

[Bronzeage]

They definitely had the subject well covered.

BS. BSBS. Every body knows the bottom line in that movie was "You can't handle the truth!"

That was actually the top line. The bottom didn't have many lines.

 

[credoconsolans]

If someone wants to smear shit all over their face and rub up against a tree, fine, I don't care. If someone wants to smear shit in my face and bang me up against a tree... there is going to be a strong, negative reaction. I am sure many gay folks will not appreciate the analogy that 'gayness' is like smearing shit on your face.. but that is my freedom to express...

You're most certainly free to express your contempt and disgust with your fellow human beings...but of course, then the rest of us human beings can start formulating our own opinions of contempt and disgust for you based on what your opinions tell us of your personality.

Just sayin'...

except the pedophiles and beastiologists.. so not everyone.

Because of course you're not thinking that gays can be lumped in with those sorts...right?

OK, so now it is cool to be gay, or whatever... I am really fucking tired of seeing it. It is just.. ugly. I find it repulsive.. like, you know, the smell of shit. My biology is programmed to repulse that which is not right for me... things are gross that are gross to me... .

And as usual, men who are disgusted with gays, assume all gays are men and seem fixated with scatology and anal sex.

My point... I like TV.

No, I don't think that's your point.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

It's your problem, not their problem.

I am also repulsed by seeing male-on-male sexuality but I don't go calling for it to be put out of sight.

If I have the right to walk down the street with my arm around my wife then a gay couple has the right to walk down the street with arms around each other.

 

[rousseau]

Don't worry, you'll get your own section in history books in about 100-200 years.

 

[Juma]

Ya, no way would I be attractive to most gay men. My wife lived with a gay (male) couple for several years just after college, while we were dating.. I've gotten some brutally honest feedback from them. I believe the term was, "terminally straight". I didn't post this to discuss people's thresholds for tolerating what is "icky", or analyze why people find certain things icky.. I dated a girl that was revolted by the feel of someone touching her Achilles heel... she would freak out over it. So what?

I intended to make it clear this was not about justifying personal preferences.. not the repulsed hetero nor the enamored homo. The post is about what I believe has become "gay affirmative action", where the entertainment business is jamming male on male gayness into everything new... as if every household has a perfect distribution of every protected group, with the "two dads" at the center.

I would say your reacting this way because you actually experience warm feelings for men or get aroused by seeing sexy men and are afraid that this is a sign of being homosexual.

Anyway, that is your problem.

 

[Kharakov]

BS. BSBS. Every body knows the bottom line in that movie was "You can't handle the truth!"

That was actually the top line. The bottom didn't have many lines.

My dick is the absolute truth.

 

[Jokodo]

I am happy that homosexuals have come such a long way in the US, with respect to their civil rights. Acceptance of gay marriage feels like it happened overnight. 'metrosexual' is a thing... or was a fad... or something that made "gay" "cool". Congrats gays! you did very well, so far.

If someone wants to smear shit all over their face and rub up against a tree, fine, I don't care. If someone wants to smear shit in my face and bang me up against a tree... there is going to be a strong, negative reaction. I am sure many gay folks will not appreciate the analogy that 'gayness' is like smearing shit on your face.. but that is my freedom to express... just like the gay folks have the freedom to express their affection for each other, publicly, like anyone else of other sexual orientations... except the pedophiles and beastiologists.. so not everyone.

OK, so now it is cool to be gay, or whatever... I am really fucking tired of seeing it. It is just.. ugly. I find it repulsive.. like, you know, the smell of shit. My biology is programmed to repulse that which is not right for me... things are gross that are gross to me... I like chocolate, you like vanilla... all the power to you... eat that vanilla.. suck it and fuck it all you want.

My point... I like TV. I watch a lot of shows with my wife... it is something we like to do together. I am getting a little annoyed about what seems to be a "gay affirmative action" going on in entertainment lately. You can't get a new show on TV without a good helping of onscreen male on male face sucking. ENOUGH ALREADY. I get it. It is ok to be gay. Can you guys lay off the smearing it everyone's face all the time now? It's like all the back people calling each other nigger every other word... I get it, you own the word now.. good for you... does it have to be used 5 times in every sentence??

/end rant

You complain about face sucking, which tells you literally nothing about what else that couple is doing when you're not watching? Yet we have heterosexual couples walking down the street with direct (though not 100% conclusive - there is adoption and in-vitro fertilisation) evidence of their penis-in-vagina sex at their hands. If anyone's "smearing into everyone's face" what should best be kept in the bedroom, it's us heterosexuals, and specifically parents.

You, sir, are applying a different standard to the Other. That's the tell-tale sign of bigotry.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

I just watched an old episode of Friends. It was so gross watching Ross and Rachel just shove their heterosexuality in our faces.

 

[dystopian]

I just watched an old episode of Friends. It was so gross watching Ross and Rachel just shove their heterosexuality in our faces.

You just watched Friends? Welcome to the 1990's Tom...

...which coincidentally enough is also what I'd like to say to the OP.

 

[Tom Sawyer]

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I just watched an old episode of Friends. It was so gross watching Ross and Rachel just shove their heterosexuality in our faces.

You just watched Friends? Welcome to the 1990's Tom...

...which coincidentally enough is also what I'd like to say to the OP.

Friends is a timeless classic that never gets old. It's quality family entertainment despite all the breeders flaunting their sexuality.

 

[Bronzeage]

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You just watched Friends? Welcome to the 1990's Tom...

...which coincidentally enough is also what I'd like to say to the OP.

Friends is a timeless classic that never gets old. It's quality family entertainment despite all the breeders flaunting their sexuality.

I remember a personal ad from the 90's. The guy was looking for someone to come over and watch Friends with him.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

You, sir, are applying a different standard to the Other. That's the tell-tale sign of bigotry.

I don't think it's proof of bigotry. Look at my post above--I'm repulsed by male-on-male sexuality also. The difference is that I recognize that it's my failing and don't try to translate my objections into actions. A lot of people have a hard time separating their own issues from right and wrong, though--failing to keep these things separate isn't bigotry, just a lack of understanding of psychology.

 

[skepticalbip]

You, sir, are applying a different standard to the Other. That's the tell-tale sign of bigotry.

I don't think it's proof of bigotry. Look at my post above--I'm repulsed by male-on-male sexuality also. The difference is that I recognize that it's my failing and don't try to translate my objections into actions. A lot of people have a hard time separating their own issues from right and wrong, though--failing to keep these things separate isn't bigotry, just a lack of understanding of psychology.

I would think that it is more likely evolutionary programming. If humans had been sexually attracted to their same sex and not to the opposite sex then there would be no humans. If humans had not had a natural revulsion to the smell of rotting meat, spiders, snakes, etc. then survival would be unlikely. Natural revulsion would be an evolutionary response not necessarily one dictated by society. Attraction and revulsion seem to be evolved responses. How we react to those evolved responses in a social species is a matter of societal expectations.

 

[dystopian]

You, sir, are applying a different standard to the Other. That's the tell-tale sign of bigotry.

I don't think it's proof of bigotry. Look at my post above--I'm repulsed by male-on-male sexuality also. The difference is that I recognize that it's my failing and don't try to translate my objections into actions.

There's more of a difference than just that. You did nothing more than simply state what it makes you feel like: you didn't go on at length about it nor did you go out of your way to post vulgar comparisons.

If all you do is matter of factly state your dislike of a thing; then that's not bigoted. Especially not if you add a qualifier by saying that if 'x' have the right to do the same thing, then 'y' does as well.

On the other hand, if you start ranting about the subject, draw insulting comparisons and repeat them for effect, all all but demand that reality rearranges itself so you don't have to be exposed to the subject you're ranting about... then yeah you're probably a bigot.

 

[Bronzeage]

You, sir, are applying a different standard to the Other. That's the tell-tale sign of bigotry.

I don't think it's proof of bigotry. Look at my post above--I'm repulsed by male-on-male sexuality also. The difference is that I recognize that it's my failing and don't try to translate my objections into actions. A lot of people have a hard time separating their own issues from right and wrong, though--failing to keep these things separate isn't bigotry, just a lack of understanding of psychology.

This sounds like you just indicted yourself for bigotry.

 

[Keith&Co.]

If humans had not had a natural revulsion to the smell of rotting meat, spiders, snakes, etc. then survival would be unlikely.

Frankly, the thought of me, personally, having sex with a man produces similar physical reactions as the thought of me, personally, touching a spider, or being very high up on a ladder or ledge, or in seeing the flat horizon of the open sea.

But i'm quite comfortable with identifying that reaction as something sourced inside of me. Not a quiet 'clue' from one or more deities about the evils of gays or heights, or some sort of innate morality against gays or spiders, or an evolutionary bumper guard against gays and those flat, unfinished horizons. Those things really freak me out. Good thing you can't usually see the horizon on a sub, i'd have lost my shit regularly.

Anyway, for whatever reason, i have these phobias. And i'm certain that the problem, if it is a problem, is with me, not them. Well, I do know ONE of them actually is a problem. I dropped an air conditioner on my toes when a homosexual ran out of it and ran up my arm. Oh, wait, no, that was a spider.

Other than the limp i had for a week that time, and missing out on a missile-deck barbecue one patrol, my phobias don't really impact my life. I probably wouldn't have sex with someone who owned a tarantula, but no one's offered. And a standard working environment of 300 feet below sea level is a great place for an acrophobe. Other than drydock and locking the door on the handling wharf roof...

And the idea of legislating so that everyone has to live as if they had my phobia strikes me as an amazing lack of perspective.

 

[ryan]

I am happy that homosexuals have come such a long way in the US, with respect to their civil rights. Acceptance of gay marriage feels like it happened overnight. 'metrosexual' is a thing... or was a fad... or something that made "gay" "cool". Congrats gays! you did very well, so far.

If someone wants to smear shit all over their face and rub up against a tree, fine, I don't care. If someone wants to smear shit in my face and bang me up against a tree... there is going to be a strong, negative reaction. I am sure many gay folks will not appreciate the analogy that 'gayness' is like smearing shit on your face.. but that is my freedom to express... just like the gay folks have the freedom to express their affection for each other, publicly, like anyone else of other sexual orientations... except the pedophiles and beastiologists.. so not everyone.

OK, so now it is cool to be gay, or whatever... I am really fucking tired of seeing it. It is just.. ugly. I find it repulsive.. like, you know, the smell of shit. My biology is programmed to repulse that which is not right for me... things are gross that are gross to me... I like chocolate, you like vanilla... all the power to you... eat that vanilla.. suck it and fuck it all you want.

My point... I like TV. I watch a lot of shows with my wife... it is something we like to do together. I am getting a little annoyed about what seems to be a "gay affirmative action" going on in entertainment lately. You can't get a new show on TV without a good helping of onscreen male on male face sucking. ENOUGH ALREADY. I get it. It is ok to be gay. Can you guys lay off the smearing it everyone's face all the time now? It's like all the back people calling each other nigger every other word... I get it, you own the word now.. good for you... does it have to be used 5 times in every sentence??

/end rant

This is just unrealised passive aggressive homophobia.

And what about the gay people who have to endure heterosexuality? What makes your pain so much more important than theirs?

If we only promoted our biological instincts, then there would probably be a lot more of pregnant 14 year olds.

 

[Bronzeage]

If humans had not had a natural revulsion to the smell of rotting meat, spiders, snakes, etc. then survival would be unlikely.

Frankly, the thought of me, personally, having sex with a man produces similar physical reactions as the thought of me, personally, touching a spider, or being very high up on a ladder or ledge, or in seeing the flat horizon of the open sea.

But i'm quite comfortable with identifying that reaction as something sourced inside of me. Not a quiet 'clue' from one or more deities about the evils of gays or heights, or some sort of innate morality against gays or spiders, or an evolutionary bumper guard against gays and those flat, unfinished horizons. Those things really freak me out. Good thing you can't usually see the horizon on a sub, i'd have lost my shit regularly.

Anyway, for whatever reason, i have these phobias. And i'm certain that the problem, if it is a problem, is with me, not them. Well, I do know ONE of them actually is a problem. I dropped an air conditioner on my toes when a homosexual ran out of it and ran up my arm. Oh, wait, no, that was a spider.

Other than the limp i had for a week that time, and missing out on a missile-deck barbecue one patrol, my phobias don't really impact my life. I probably wouldn't have sex with someone who owned a tarantula, but no one's offered. And a standard working environment of 300 feet below sea level is a great place for an acrophobe. Other than drydock and locking the door on the handling wharf roof...

And the idea of legislating so that everyone has to live as if they had my phobia strikes me as an amazing lack of perspective.

I don't believe there is anything natural about fear of snakes and spiders or the smell of rotting meat. These are cultural and social learned behaviors. As such, one could expect almost everyone in the culture to share these traits, and for all practical purposes appear normal. As for acrophobia and agoraphobia, there maybe early experiences which cause these conditions, but new research may find an organic cause.

There was a time when a pheasant would be hung by the tail feathers until it dropped to the ground from its own weight. Only then was it thought fit to eat. Don't me started on kimchi.

 

[Jokodo]

You, sir, are applying a different standard to the Other. That's the tell-tale sign of bigotry.

I don't think it's proof of bigotry. Look at my post above--I'm repulsed by male-on-male sexuality also. The difference is that I recognize that it's my failing and don't try to translate my objections into actions. A lot of people have a hard time separating their own issues from right and wrong, though--failing to keep these things separate isn't bigotry, just a lack of understanding of psychology.

He called men kissing (kissing, ffs, we're not talking about gay porn at prime-time) each other on TV "shoving their sexuality in everyone's face", or something to that effect. This is ridiculous, and yes, bigoted. Two people kissing doesn't tell you what, if anything, those people might do beyond kissing in a more private setting, so it basically only tells you that the people involved might occasionally be interested in something sexy with a person of the same sex, nothing more specific can be deduced. On the other hand, everytime I walk down the street holding my kid's hand, I'm letting everyone around me know not only that I'm occasionally interested in something sexy with a woman, but more specifically that I have at least experimented with penis-in-vagina sex. That's "shoving it in everyone's face" to the square. If he considers "shoving it in everyone's face" bad enough to rant about it, in order to be consistent, he should call for an outright ban of "shoving it in everyone's face to the square". He doesn't (and I'm pretty sure he would consider the proposition absurd). That's applying two different standards.

 

[Keith&Co.]

I don't believe there is anything natural about fear of snakes and spiders or the smell of rotting meat. These are cultural and social learned behaviors.

'Kay.

As i said, the reason i have the phobia doesn't matter, the location of the phobia is within me. Whether it's programmed as software or firmware, it's my problem. Not something that'll make me judge others for their behavior, be it base jumping or spider riding or deep sea yachting.