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The Race For 2024

There is a difference between having a vested interest and being sucked into a black hole. We are sucked into the black hole.

I am quite pleased that the US has regular elections. More power to them. What I am not pleased about is the assumption that the rest of the world cares as much as they do.
For example in Australia we will get breathless commentary, ad nauseum and ad infinitum, about the primaries in Akron, Ohio (why did I mention Akron, Ohio. Because in the last US election we were told about it. )
Do not know, do not care about Akron, Ohio or any other place beyond the black stump.

All I wish to know (eventually) is that Fred Nurk of the No-hopers party and Mary Bloggs of the My head is up my bum party are the candidates for the election. Then give us the results in Nov. 20xx.
All else is pointless, wasteful noise to me. Please spare us your torment.

That's because people prefer to be entertained rather than informed.

In the case of Australian media, it's very much "what will get a reaction from the viewers that our advertisers will approve?" US politics is a very lazy go to well to draw from. It has drama and some other network in the states has already done the hard yards investigating so very little leg work is involved. I would prefer something like channel Nine reporting something about the US election and than expanding on it. Like for example how Trump's attitude towards trans people in the military would affect AUKUS (spoiler; it will), but instead it's just soap opera masquerading as news. US politics is important to Australia, the media just does a fucking terrible job explaining why.

Fuck, I would like Australian media to further probe into why investigations towards the former NSW Premier and Deputy Premier magically disappeared, or the shrinking amount of arable land near the Murray Darling River because of the massive comeback of blue green algae, but that's a bridge too far I guess. People would rather be entertained than informed.
 
There is a difference between having a vested interest and being sucked into a black hole. We are sucked into the black hole.

I am quite pleased that the US has regular elections. More power to them. What I am not pleased about is the assumption that the rest of the world cares as much as they do.
For example in Australia we will get breathless commentary, ad nauseum and ad infinitum, about the primaries in Akron, Ohio (why did I mention Akron, Ohio. Because in the last US election we were told about it. )
Do not know, do not care about Akron, Ohio or any other place beyond the black stump.

All I wish to know (eventually) is that Fred Nurk of the No-hopers party and Mary Bloggs of the My head is up my bum party are the candidates for the election. Then give us the results in Nov. 20xx.
All else is pointless, wasteful noise to me. Please spare us your torment.

That's because people prefer to be entertained rather than informed.

In the case of Australian media, it's very much "what will get a reaction from the viewers that our advertisers will approve?" US politics is a very lazy go to well to draw from. It has drama and some other network in the states has already done the hard yards investigating so very little leg work is involved. I would prefer something like channel Nine reporting something about the US election and than expanding on it. Like for example how Trump's attitude towards trans people in the military would affect AUKUS (spoiler; it will), but instead it's just soap opera masquerading as news. US politics is important to Australia, the media just does a fucking terrible job explaining why.

Fuck, I would like Australian media to further probe into why investigations towards the former NSW Premier and Deputy Premier magically disappeared, or the shrinking amount of arable land near the Murray Darling River because of the massive comeback of blue green algae, but that's a bridge too far I guess. People would rather be entertained than informed.
Sadly that is all too true. Though i would postulate that the US political circus is not entertaining , just tedious. There are so many people in Australia who could tell you all about the US political system but are illiterate concerning the Aust. political system. I know too many people who think we should copy the US system. Sheer madness.
We will still drown in the torrent of nonsense emanating from that circus.
The Murray Darling system is indeed in trouble and the reports, money spent has not given us much at all.
 
Sadly that is all too true. Though i would postulate that the US political circus is not entertaining , just tedious.
The same could be said about Home and Away and Neighbours, but like those shows it's cheap and there's a return on investment.
 
So, what are the Australian Liberal Party politicians up to?
Two main things. First, trying very hard not to lose the upcoming NSW state election. And secondly opposing The Voice Referendum without looking like they oppose the referendum. I suspect thirdly minimising Peter Dutton's public profile as much as possible, but I can't prove that.
 
DeSantis Begins Courting Another Breed Of Trump Supporter - Talking Points Memo
As the 2024 presidential race kicks off, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has begun to soft launch his own campaign. And he appears to be testing the waters of a tempestuous Red sea to see if he can catch the big fish: each faction of former president Donald Trump’s fanbase.
Yes, he has been running for President without announcing that he has been running for President,
The archconservative has spent nearly a year generating outrage-inducing headlines to bait the farthest-right Trumpers with legislative moves like (but not limited to): rejecting an African American Studies course from the College Board; fueling “groomer” conspiracy theories in public schools; getting into a scrap with Disney; threatening to roll back press freedom; and launching an election police force to uncover supposed widespread voter fraud that largely doesn’t exist.

But lately, he also seems to be courting another type of Trump supporter – those who gravitated towards the former president’s performative “law and order” platform. DeSantis spent this past President’s Day meeting with police groups and community members in New York City and the surrounding suburbs of Philadelphia and Chicago, making stump speeches focused on policing.

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She compared DeSantis’s strategy—particularly his stance on school curricula—to Virginia Governor Glenn Youngkin, who won on an anti-woke platform packaged as education reform.

“Canceling AP classes in African American Studies was a horrible look for DeSantis,” Shah said, “but it’s a move that reflects his desire to test the waters and see how far he can go with certain actions intended to shore up support from Republicans who’ve remained Trump loyalists thus far.”
So he's culture warring to get the support of the Republican base. That also explains his recently-expressed love for gas stoves.
 
GOP 2024 hopefuls divided over US role in Ukraine war | CNN Politics
But those hopefuls are split into two camps: Isolationists, particularly former President Donald Trump and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who believe the United States is too involved in supporting Ukraine’s efforts to fend off the Russian invasion; and hawks, including several former Trump administration officials, who argue for an even more aggressive posture toward Russia. Both sides are warning that if their positions aren’t heeded, a world war could follow.

Donald Trump: “World War III has never been closer than it is right now,” pledging to “clean house of all of the warmongers and America-Last globalists in the Deep State, the Pentagon, the State Department, and the national security industrial complex.” About President Biden, “If you watch and understand the moves being made by Biden on Ukraine, he is systematically, but perhaps unknowingly, pushing us into what could soon be WORLD WAR III.”

Ron DeSantis: “I don’t think it’s in our interest to be getting into a proxy war with China, getting involved over things like the Borderlands or over Crimea,” referring to what Russia has taken over in a Fox & Friends interview. He said that Ukraine was “really wounded” and suffered “tremendous, tremendous losses”.

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Nikki Haley: “If we win this fight for freedom it will send a signal to every enemy we have. If we lose this fight for freedom, Russia has said Poland and the Baltics are next and then we’ve got a world war.”

Mike Pence: the US has “got to stay in the fight” against Russia, and “We are involved in a proxy war against the Soviet Union, the Ukrainians are fighting it. And I really believe that it is essential that we see it through. We demand our European allies do more than their share because it is their front yard. But I think it is absolutely essential that after a slow start in providing support to the Ukrainian military by the Biden administration, we’re now providing that support. But let’s get them what they need, the tanks, let’s get them the F-16s and support them as they finish this fight.”

Former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson: JB's trip to Ukraine was “a great moment for America,” and that “We need to applaud this. This is a good moment for our country, and in those that respect, freedom and sovereignty, and those that are fighting against oppression.”

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Congressional Republicans are split, though with most of them supporting the war effort.

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia: JB's visit is an “America last” policy, and she tweeted “This is incredibly insulting. Today on our President’s Day, Joe Biden, the President of the United States chose Ukraine over America, while forcing the American people to pay for Ukraine’s government and war.”
Greene was one of 11 House Republicans who co-sponsored a “Ukraine Fatigue” resolution earlier this month. The resolution called for suspending military and financial aid to Ukraine.

Other House Republicans have urged Biden to increase support for Ukraine.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, at the Munich Security Conference on Friday, pledged GOP support for Ukraine and NATO and argued for boosting military spending. He also insisted Republicans are committed to global leadership.

“Don’t look at Twitter. Look at the people in power, like me and Speaker Kevin McCarthy,” he said.

South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham said in a statement he was “very pleased” Biden visited Ukraine.

“This was the right signal to send at the right time,” Graham said.
 
 2024 United States presidential election
 2024 Democratic Party presidential primaries
 2024 Republican Party presidential primaries

Looking at earlier years' Presidential races, most of the candidates entered the race in the first half of the previous year, though there were some stragglers. So we still have some months to go before we get an idea of who is seriously running.
And sadly the rest of the world will be drowned in such idle speculation.
I mean, it's not like we ask y'all to take sides... We're just such a clown show you can't look away even when you know you should for your own well-being. We are the Maury of international politics.
 
Marianne Williamson on Twitter: "(pic link)" / Twitter
Marianne Williamson is making an important announcement
Saturday, March 4th 2pm ET
Watch Live on (YouTube) (Facebook) (Instagram) (Twitter)
What might that be?
Marianne Williamson confirms she will run for president in 2024 | The Hill
Marianne Williamson, a prominent progressive who ran for president in 2020, confirmed in an interview published Thursday that she will run again for the Democratic nomination for president in 2024.

That would put her in a Democratic primary against President Biden, who has not announced his own plans but is widely expected to run for reelection next year.

“I wouldn’t be running for president if I didn’t believe I could contribute to harnessing the collective sensibility that I feel is our greatest hope at this time,” Williamson told the Medill News Service, which is run by Northwestern University, in an exclusive interview.
 
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia: JB's visit is an “America last” policy, and she tweeted “This is incredibly insulting. Today on our President’s Day, Joe Biden, the President of the United States chose Ukraine over America, while forcing the American people to pay for Ukraine’s government and war.”
Doesn’t Congress, the institution of which she is a member, pay for wars?
 
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia: JB's visit is an “America last” policy, and she tweeted “This is incredibly insulting. Today on our President’s Day, Joe Biden, the President of the United States chose Ukraine over America, while forcing the American people to pay for Ukraine’s government and war.”
A bunch of Republicans went to Russia over the 4th of July a few years ago.
 
There is a difference between having a vested interest and being sucked into a black hole. We are sucked into the black hole.

I am quite pleased that the US has regular elections. More power to them. What I am not pleased about is the assumption that the rest of the world cares as much as they do.
For example in Australia we will get breathless commentary, ad nauseum and ad infinitum, about the primaries in Akron, Ohio (why did I mention Akron, Ohio. Because in the last US election we were told about it. )
Do not know, do not care about Akron, Ohio or any other place beyond the black stump.

All I wish to know (eventually) is that Fred Nurk of the No-hopers party and Mary Bloggs of the My head is up my bum party are the candidates for the election. Then give us the results in Nov. 20xx.
All else is pointless, wasteful noise to me. Please spare us your torment.

That's because people prefer to be entertained rather than informed.

In the case of Australian media, it's very much "what will get a reaction from the viewers that our advertisers will approve?" US politics is a very lazy go to well to draw from. It has drama and some other network in the states has already done the hard yards investigating so very little leg work is involved. I would prefer something like channel Nine reporting something about the US election and than expanding on it. Like for example how Trump's attitude towards trans people in the military would affect AUKUS (spoiler; it will), but instead it's just soap opera masquerading as news. US politics is important to Australia, the media just does a fucking terrible job explaining why.

Fuck, I would like Australian media to further probe into why investigations towards the former NSW Premier and Deputy Premier magically disappeared, or the shrinking amount of arable land near the Murray Darling River because of the massive comeback of blue green algae, but that's a bridge too far I guess. People would rather be entertained than informed.
Sadly that is all too true. Though i would postulate that the US political circus is not entertaining , just tedious. There are so many people in Australia who could tell you all about the US political system but are illiterate concerning the Aust. political system. I know too many people who think we should copy the US system. Sheer madness.
We will still drown in the torrent of nonsense emanating from that circus.
The Murray Darling system is indeed in trouble and the reports, money spent has not given us much at all.

Tigers, I'm sorry that you got stuck writing so many posts in this thread because so many other people are obsessed with our presidential politics. I can clearly see that, if it weren't for us going on and on about it, you would not be going on and on about it, making so many of us feel that we need to say something back to you and then waiting for you to tell us that this is so tedious that you can't stand all the other people making a fuss over it.
 
Marianne Williamson's home page
Some of her writing:
Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous? Actually, who are you not to be? You are a child of God. Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won’t feel insecure around you. We are all meant to shine, as children do. We were born to make manifest the glory of God that is within us. It’s not just in some of us; it’s in everyone. And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our own fear, our presence automatically liberates others.

– Marianne Williamson, A Return to Love

Mornings with Marianne 2023 – Marianne Williamson - "Experience the power of A Course In Miracles with Marianne each morning. Cultivate miracle-readiness in 2023 and beyond!"

 A Course in Miracles
A Course in Miracles (also referred to as ACIM or the Course) is a 1976 book by Helen Schucman. The underlying premise is that the greatest "miracle" is the act of simply gaining a full "awareness of love's presence" in a person's life. Schucman said that the book had been dictated to her, word for word, via a process of "inner dictation" from Jesus Christ. The book is considered to have borrowed from New Age movement writings.

Seems like she could get the spiritual-but-not-religious vote.
 
Who is running for president in 2024? - Vox - "Right-wing activist Vivek Ramaswamy is the latest to challenge Trump for the GOP nomination."

Announced: Donald Trump, Nikki Haley, Vivek Ramaswamy

Yet to announce: FL Gov Ron DeSantis, Sen. Tim Scott, Fmr VP Mike Pence, Fmr MD Gov Larry Hogan

Larry Hogan?
Hogan is a self-proclaimed centrist and was bipartisanly popular during his tenure as Maryland governor, forced to work with a Democrat-controlled legislature for all eight years he was in office. He couldn’t seek reelection in 2022 because he was term-limited, and after his chosen successor lost the GOP primary to a Trump endorsee, Democrat Wes Moore ultimately won the governorship.
But will the Republican base like him?
 
Nikki Haley announces 2024 White House bid

Former South Carolina Republican Gov. Nikki Haley announced Tuesday in a video that she will run for president in 2024, becoming the first major rival to challenge former President Donald Trump for the GOP nomination.

“The Washington establishment has failed us over and over and over again. It’s time for a new generation of leadership to rediscover fiscal responsibility, secure our border and strengthen our country, our pride and our purpose,” Haley, who is expected to deliver remarks Wednesday in Charleston at a campaign launch event, said in the video.
She has no chance....way past her prime. Don Lemon nailed it.

Don Lemon absent from ‘CNN This Morning’ after sexist Nikki Haley rant enraged Poppy Harlow

But where was he when Hillary Clinton ran for POTUS? Methinks he might be a teeny bit biased (and just plain dumb).
Clearly, Don has passed his prime.
 
The Donald says “if you don’t nominate me I’m going to run as an independent, and REALLY fuck y’all up!”
You GO , Donnie!
:hysterical:
it is delicious watching Republicans try to sleep in the bed they made.
The RW Washington Examiner sez Ms Hutchinson’s testimony renders Cheato unfit … a revelation that reveals nothing except the chasm of division Trump has produced in his own party, his own Country and his own little pea brain.
 
You can't blame Banana Donnie for all the stupid. Yes, he certainly possesses his share but the GOP clusterfuck is a group effort. The illiterates were looking for another leader and they found one in Orange. The good thing is there seems to be some GOP folks who recognize the stupidity that trademarks their own party. Whether there are enough to cause it to completely implode is doubtful.
 
there seems to be some GOP folks who recognize the stupidity that trademarks their own party. Whether there are enough to cause it to completely implode is doubtful.

Prob'ly best if the Q-party does NOT implode. I'd like it to endure long enough to drag all it's misogyny, bigotry and zenophobia into the obscurity that awaits it, if it follows its current course.
But the Dem party HAS to wake up and start doing its work at the bottom levels - municipal and County governments that Republicans have pretty much taken over. If we can't oust them at that level, they can keep control of State governments, which, when the next coup attempt comes around, will probably leave the fascists in control of the entire government.
 
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