The Race For 2024

[Henry-Finland]

After that, you can ask the Trumpo-guys to apply for a library card. Yes, I know - I am too optimistic, but it is always worth a try.

They very specifically hate libraries, because that is where drag queen story hours happen and they hate women.

- The other problem (about Ukraine) is that USA does not sell e.g. 155 mm cluster bombs (4 million in storage that are meant for scrapping and 3.600 older Abrams that are just a reserve in the Arizona desert.)
USA has also planes that they do not use anymore (Warthdogs?)

You see, even if EU-countries are only building up their production capacity, EU is not lack of money. Uncle Sam needs only to whistle...

No idea on the cluster bombs, but equipment in the boneyards isn't in shape to ship to the front line without quite a bit of overhaul.

Not the least of which is the DU armor that would need to be removed and replaced with other material. Earlier in the year Ukraine pulled Abrams tanks from the field as they are fodder in a drone war. If Ukraine again finds a need for tanks, Australia has 59 of them being retired. These would not have the DU armor. Retired Army Chief Peter Leahy is asking why they are not being sent to Ukraine and not getting much of an answer from the government. They also scrapped and buried their fleet of 46 MRH-90 helicopters Ukraine could have used. Again, why wasn't Ukraine considered prior to the decommissioning process?

You are right.
I do not remember, maybe it was London that renewed their fleet of ambulances. They wanted to scrap the "old" ones.
But after many petitions and publical demands, they finally sent them to Ukraine. I think it was a little bit less than 100 ambulances.

The politicians do not seem to understand a war? Their horses seem to be very high.
I think I still need to build a guillotine with the text: "All power comes from the people!" or something like that and take it in front of some parliaments...

 

[TV and credit cards]

After that, you can ask the Trumpo-guys to apply for a library card. Yes, I know - I am too optimistic, but it is always worth a try.

They very specifically hate libraries, because that is where drag queen story hours happen and they hate women.

- The other problem (about Ukraine) is that USA does not sell e.g. 155 mm cluster bombs (4 million in storage that are meant for scrapping and 3.600 older Abrams that are just a reserve in the Arizona desert.)
USA has also planes that they do not use anymore (Warthdogs?)

You see, even if EU-countries are only building up their production capacity, EU is not lack of money. Uncle Sam needs only to whistle...

No idea on the cluster bombs, but equipment in the boneyards isn't in shape to ship to the front line without quite a bit of overhaul.

Not the least of which is the DU armor that would need to be removed and replaced with other material. Earlier in the year Ukraine pulled Abrams tanks from the field as they are fodder in a drone war. If Ukraine again finds a need for tanks, Australia has 59 of them being retired. These would not have the DU armor. Retired Army Chief Peter Leahy is asking why they are not being sent to Ukraine and not getting much of an answer from the government. They also scrapped and buried their fleet of 46 MRH-90 helicopters Ukraine could have used. Again, why wasn't Ukraine considered prior to the decommissioning process?

You are right.
I do not remember, maybe it was London that renewed their fleet of ambulances. They wanted to scrap the "old" ones.
But after many petitions and publical demands, they finally sent them to Ukraine. I think it was a little bit less than 100 ambulances.

The politicians do not seem to understand a war? Their horses seem to be very high.
I think I still need to build a guillotine with the text: "All power comes from the people!" or something like that and take it in front of some parliaments...

Be careful. Some folk here did that with a hangman's noose and it didn't go well for them.

 

[Henry-Finland]

After that, you can ask the Trumpo-guys to apply for a library card. Yes, I know - I am too optimistic, but it is always worth a try.

They very specifically hate libraries, because that is where drag queen story hours happen and they hate women.

- The other problem (about Ukraine) is that USA does not sell e.g. 155 mm cluster bombs (4 million in storage that are meant for scrapping and 3.600 older Abrams that are just a reserve in the Arizona desert.)
USA has also planes that they do not use anymore (Warthdogs?)

You see, even if EU-countries are only building up their production capacity, EU is not lack of money. Uncle Sam needs only to whistle...

No idea on the cluster bombs, but equipment in the boneyards isn't in shape to ship to the front line without quite a bit of overhaul.

Not the least of which is the DU armor that would need to be removed and replaced with other material. Earlier in the year Ukraine pulled Abrams tanks from the field as they are fodder in a drone war. If Ukraine again finds a need for tanks, Australia has 59 of them being retired. These would not have the DU armor. Retired Army Chief Peter Leahy is asking why they are not being sent to Ukraine and not getting much of an answer from the government. They also scrapped and buried their fleet of 46 MRH-90 helicopters Ukraine could have used. Again, why wasn't Ukraine considered prior to the decommissioning process?

You are right.
I do not remember, maybe it was London that renewed their fleet of ambulances. They wanted to scrap the "old" ones.
But after many petitions and publical demands, they finally sent them to Ukraine. I think it was a little bit less than 100 ambulances.

The politicians do not seem to understand a war? Their horses seem to be very high.
I think I still need to build a guillotine with the text: "All power comes from the people!" or something like that and take it in front of some parliaments...

Be careful. Some folk here did that with a hangman's noose and it didn't go well for them.

They did not ask for permission.
From an earlier thread that I wrote:

"wanted to build a 2 meter high guillotine as an EU-project because it is a tradition in at least 5-6 countries in EU. For some reason, they did not give me money for this historical project.
This would have been on a trailer, so I could have driven it from one protest to another. On the crossbar, there would have been the text: "The power comes from the people.""

and

"The trailer was about 2 meters long and the guillotine would have been lying down at the transportation. It would have been erected at the place of protest e.g. in the front of the parliament. The blade would have been bolted in order to be according to nowadays EU regulations of "work safety".
My meaning was to make everything according to the letter of law and write a book about how different administrations would have reacted to the project. E.g. if the police would have stopped me on the road, I would have given them all the papers stamped by the officials etc.
The project would have been totally according to the EU-what-ever-shit-paragraphs:
"Historically meaningful/used in more than two EU countries, a social linkage, creating work opportunities, ecological (no fuel or electricity needed)" etc.
My real problem was money and that I did not find any metal specialist who had humour..."


You always have to have permission from all different authorities.

 

[Toni]

Americans are still isolationists at heart.

Despite the abject failure of that policy in two world wars.

As Abba Eban observed, "... men and nations do behave wisely, once they have exhausted all other alternatives".

The longer it takes to put Utin back in his box, and make clear that his expansionism will not be tolerated, the harder and bloodier it will become to do so. But it will have to be done eventually.

Yeah, but look at Viet Nam, Korea and Afghanistan…

Part of it is not liking it when other countries interfere with us ( see Putin) so empatht rather than self centeredness

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Hopes for Harris to continue rising in the polls are quite done at this point. But she has plateau'd in a quasi-popular vote lead nationally, and appears to have an electoral college lead, as polls in the states appear to be getting close to set. Trump is race and immigrant baiting as much as he can to increase support among the deplorable and the deplorable among minorities. I'd love to win NC or AZ just to fatten up the EV difference a bit more. Trump is doing everything he can to poison the well with the lies on the emergency response to save NC and GA. It is reprehensible.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

We are so fucked. This would have led to people losing, even in easy to win seats. Now days, it barely even makes the news. The fucking Tweet (or Xit) is still up!

Rep. Greene is unfit to run a gift shop, forget try to help operate the government.

 

[Elixir]

I'd love to win NC or AZ just to fatten up the EV difference a bit more.

Let’s see what this next hurricane does to FL. Nothing like some near-death experience to cause people to reflect upon their choices.
A slim electoral victory will be cause for violent protest.
An electoral blowout will be cause for violent protest as well, but it will be much easier to laugh at distraught MAGATS in that event.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I'd love to win NC or AZ just to fatten up the EV difference a bit more.

Let’s see what this next hurricane does to FL. Nothing like some near-death experience to cause people to reflect upon their choices.
A slim electoral victory will be cause for violent protest.
An electoral blowout will be cause for violent protest as well, but it will be much easier to laugh at distraught MAGATS in that event.

An interesting reflection is these people live in their GOP led state government utopias. So, while it is one thing to say the Feds aren't doing anything, what about the GOP running the state? If nothing is happening, they aren't doing anything either.

Then you get these, 'well where we live, we hillbillies help each other out'... So which is it? Are the GOP run state governments useless... and you all not able to manage this natural disaster yourself? You can't blame the Biden Administration for doing "nothing" (ignoring the whole argument that they are doing something!) and then give a pass to the State GOP as well as all these people and their self-sufficiency arguments from years before.

We don't need the Feds! Where is our help?!

 

[Elixir]

We don't need the Feds! Where is our help?!

Newsom decides to do what TSwizzle has been berating him for not doing, and he decries it as political gamesmanship.
You can’t please people who subsist on grievance and victimhood (Trump’s life model).

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

We don't need the Feds! Where is our help?!

Newsom decides to do what TSwizzle has been berating him for not doing, and he decries it as political gamesmanship.
You can’t please people who subsist on grievance and victimhood (Trump’s life model).

FEMA is just virtue signaling.

 

[Copernicus]

This whole climate change hoax has gotten out of hand. Why are these hurricanes just hitting the red states? Has anyone thought to ask? Helene hit western North Carolina. Where do you think most of the Trump supporters live in that state?

 

[Politesse]

This whole climate change hoax has gotten out of hand. Why are these hurricanes just hitting the red states? Has anyone thought to ask? Helene hit western North Carolina. Where do you think most of the Trump supporters live in that state?

Maybe their petty-ass God is pissed off at their brazen worship of a certain celebrity fascist politician.

 

[Elixir]

This whole climate change hoax has gotten out of hand. Why are these hurricanes just hitting the red states? Has anyone thought to ask? Helene hit western North Carolina. Where do you think most of the Trump supporters live in that state?

Perhaps the ignorant MAGATS of western NC will not be able, or not be bothered, to vote. If NC goes to Harris, God will have rigged the election.

 

[pood]

This whole climate change hoax has gotten out of hand. Why are these hurricanes just hitting the red states? Has anyone thought to ask? Helene hit western North Carolina. Where do you think most of the Trump supporters live in that state?

Perhaps the ignorant MAGATS of western NC will not be able, or not be bothered, to vote. If NC goes to Harris, God will have rigged the election.

The insurrectionists will then have to storm heaven holding TRUMP FOR GOD banners.

 

[Elixir]

This whole climate change hoax has gotten out of hand. Why are these hurricanes just hitting the red states? Has anyone thought to ask? Helene hit western North Carolina. Where do you think most of the Trump supporters live in that state?

Perhaps the ignorant MAGATS of western NC will not be able, or not be bothered, to vote. If NC goes to Harris, God will have rigged the election.

The insurrectionists will then have to storm heaven holding TRUMP FOR GOD banners.

Afaic they can’t “storm heaven” too soon.

 

[unapologetic]

This whole climate change hoax has gotten out of hand. Why are these hurricanes just hitting the red states? Has anyone thought to ask? Helene hit western North Carolina. Where do you think most of the Trump supporters live in that state?

Please flag your sarcasm.

 

[Swammerdami]

Very recently, the Betfair odds switched from Harris ahead to Trump ahead 50-48. And Trump has suddenly veered to a 54-46 lead at Polymarket. Is this due to recent polls? Or something else?

I've edited my report from 10 days ago: Note Kamala's decline, especially a 1.4 point decline in Michigan polling.

I show the Seven Swing States™ (and one longer-shot each for Red or Blue sometimes mentioned), along with latest poll averages as shown at https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/wisconsin/ . The final number shown on each line is #EVs ÷5.

Minnesota +6 +6 . . . . . // 2

Michigan +3 +1.6 . . . . // 3
Wisconsin +2 +1.5 . . . . // 2
Pennsylvania +1 +0.6 . . .// 4
Nevada +1 +1. . . . . . . // 1
North Carolina 0 -1 . . . // 3
Georgia -1 -1 . . . . . . // 3
Arizona -1 -1.5 . . . . . // 2

Florida -4 -4 . . . . . . // 6

Harris needs 9 of the 18 #EVs ÷5 from the Seven Swingers. Assuming she gets MN, MI and WI (and that Trump gets FL), she also needs either (1) PA and another EV (even Omaha), or (2) any two of {NV, NC, GA, AZ} except NV+AZ. Harris has a slight edge in Polymarket and Betfair "predictions", though given "error-bars" those markets' current standings can be treated as "dead heats."

 

[Copernicus]

This whole climate change hoax has gotten out of hand. Why are these hurricanes just hitting the red states? Has anyone thought to ask? Helene hit western North Carolina. Where do you think most of the Trump supporters live in that state?

Please flag your sarcasm.

Sorry. I shouldn't make light of what is happening, especially with what Florida is now facing. These life-threatening events would still be happening even if people had listened to Al Gore back in 2000, but maybe not quite this soon. It does make me angry that people still listen to politicians like Trump and Vance, who continue to call global warming a hoax. I'm also a bit angry that Harris and Walz are not making more of a point about climate change, even though people don't want to hear it. 90 F (32 C) ocean temperatures are catastrophic on so many levels.

 

[Shadowy Man]

This whole climate change hoax has gotten out of hand. Why are these hurricanes just hitting the red states? Has anyone thought to ask? Helene hit western North Carolina. Where do you think most of the Trump supporters live in that state?

God: "How many damn hurricanes do I have to throw their way before they get that climate change is real???"

 

[starwater]

... Toni has not been presenting her characterizations as a representation of the views of the "some white men" that you personally heard, and personally interpreted as expressing resentment, and personally decided you could mind-read as to precisely what it was they resented. She has been presenting her characterizations as a representation of the views of other members of this forum, including Loren and me in particular. She has been presenting her characterizations as a representation of any white people who aren't on board with affirmative action. And she has been presenting her characterizations as a representation of white males at large:

Toni is presenting it as a representation of a portion of white males at large. But you keep being you with your malacious imputations.

I quoted her presenting it as a representation of white males in general, and you quoted it back to me. So give it a rest.

I’ve had this discussion many times. For white males, the fact that they are no longer first in line for all good things feels like prejudice to them. It’s not. It just feels bad to them to be treated closer to how everyone else is treated.

That's a racist, sexist stereotype.

How is it racist? To any rational disinterested reader who is even moderately fluent in the language, it does not exhibit any trace that white men are inferior or that Toni dislikes them.

Sure it does. She would not accuse black females who don't get to be the (exclusive) first in line of that feeling like prejudice to them. When everyone is treated the same -- all first when that's practical, or in random order or first-come-first-served when serialization is for some reason necessary -- she assumes this feels unprejudiced to others and prejudiced to white males. That being true would be a character defect in white males, a form of moral inferiority.

None of that makes sense. First, whatever anyone might say about those of another race does not determine whether a statement is racist. Describing that black people have brown skin is an observation. No rational person would say it is racist because I would not describe white people as having brown skin.

Oh for the love of god! That's no different from arguing "'Mexicans are from Mexico' isn't racist; therefore 'Mexicans are rapists' isn't racist." She imputed a negative mental trait to white males, not a skin color and a sex…..

If it makes you feel better to beat the dead horse of your desperate misinterpretation, you will have to do it without me because I refuse to waste my time in a hopeless cause.

We are so fucked. This would have led to people losing, even in easy to win seats. Now days, it barely even makes the news. The fucking Tweet (or Xit) is still up!

Rep. Greene is unfit to run a gift shop, forget try to help operate the government.

So she is finally agreeing that humans caused climate change?