The Race For 2024

[TV and credit cards]

Colorado Supreme Court bounces Trump from the ballot.

Colorado Supreme Court declares Donald Trump is ineligible for the White House

The Colorado Supreme Court is removing former President Donald Trump from the 2024 primary ballot under the Constitution's insurrection clause.

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At least until the Supreme Court puts him back.

The way clause 3 of the 14th amendment is written, I’d think they couldn’t possibly. No way, not even this group.
If the Supreme Court lets the state ruling stand, wouldn’t this necessarily remove Trump from the ballot in all states?

 

[Shadowy Man]

Colorado Supreme Court bounces Trump from the ballot.

Colorado Supreme Court declares Donald Trump is ineligible for the White House

The Colorado Supreme Court is removing former President Donald Trump from the 2024 primary ballot under the Constitution's insurrection clause.

apnews.com

At least until the Supreme Court puts him back.

The way clause 3 of the 14th amendment is written, I’d think they couldn’t possibly. No way, not even this group.
If the Supreme Court lets the state ruling stand, wouldn’t this necessarily remove Trump from the ballot in all states?

Given recent history (and past for that matter) I’m sure they can torture logic enough to come up with an opinion.

 

[Shadowy Man]

Someone should run for President who is too young according to the Constitution and then claim it should be up to the people whether they can run and claim election interference if they’re blocked from the ballots.

Either the Constitution’s eligibility requirements mean something or they don’t I guess.

 

[TSwizzle]

Colorado Supreme Court bounces Trump from the ballot.

Colorado Supreme Court declares Donald Trump is ineligible for the White House

The Colorado Supreme Court is removing former President Donald Trump from the 2024 primary ballot under the Constitution's insurrection clause.

apnews.com

Jeezus Christ, the democrats have the nerve to complain about an attack on democracy from “right wingers”

 

[TomC]

Colorado Supreme Court bounces Trump from the ballot.

Colorado Supreme Court declares Donald Trump is ineligible for the White House

The Colorado Supreme Court is removing former President Donald Trump from the 2024 primary ballot under the Constitution's insurrection clause.

apnews.com

Jeezus Christ, the democrats have the nerve to complain about an attack on democracy from “right wingers”

It's not just democrats who object to violent insurrection, to the point of booting violent insurrectioists off the ballot.
Tom

 

[TSwizzle]

How precious, California Lieutenant Governor Eleni Kounalakis is urging CA secretary of state to ban Trump from the California ballot;

Lieutenant Governor Eleni Kounalakis is urging California's Secretary of State to explore every legal option to remove former President Donald Trump from California's 2024 presidential primary ballot. Kounalakis said California must stand on the right side of history, and follow Colorado. "The Colorado decision can be the basis for a similar decision here in our state.

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Fascism is alive, well and thriving in the state of California. And this dope wants to be governor? Lord help us.

 

[Patooka]

Good for California

 

[TV and credit cards]

How precious, California Lieutenant Governor Eleni Kounalakis is urging CA secretary of state to ban Trump from the California ballot;

Lieutenant Governor Eleni Kounalakis is urging California's Secretary of State to explore every legal option to remove former President Donald Trump from California's 2024 presidential primary ballot. Kounalakis said California must stand on the right side of history, and follow Colorado. "The Colorado decision can be the basis for a similar decision here in our state.

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Fascism is alive, well and thriving in the state of California. And this dope wants to be governor? Lord help us.

You're calling adherence to the Constitution, fascism?
No bar too low.

 

[TSwizzle]

How precious, California Lieutenant Governor Eleni Kounalakis is urging CA secretary of state to ban Trump from the California ballot;

Lieutenant Governor Eleni Kounalakis is urging California's Secretary of State to explore every legal option to remove former President Donald Trump from California's 2024 presidential primary ballot. Kounalakis said California must stand on the right side of history, and follow Colorado. "The Colorado decision can be the basis for a similar decision here in our state.

News

Fascism is alive, well and thriving in the state of California. And this dope wants to be governor? Lord help us.

You're calling adherence to the Constitution, fascism?
No bar too low.

Sure, Jan.

 

[Harry Bosch]

How precious, California Lieutenant Governor Eleni Kounalakis is urging CA secretary of state to ban Trump from the California ballot;

Lieutenant Governor Eleni Kounalakis is urging California's Secretary of State to explore every legal option to remove former President Donald Trump from California's 2024 presidential primary ballot. Kounalakis said California must stand on the right side of history, and follow Colorado. "The Colorado decision can be the basis for a similar decision here in our state.

News

Fascism is alive, well and thriving in the state of California. And this dope wants to be governor? Lord help us.

You're calling adherence to the Constitution, fascism?
No bar too low.

Trumpsters preach following the constitution when it comes to guns, ignoring it when it regards elections.

 

[TSwizzle]

How precious, California Lieutenant Governor Eleni Kounalakis is urging CA secretary of state to ban Trump from the California ballot;

Lieutenant Governor Eleni Kounalakis is urging California's Secretary of State to explore every legal option to remove former President Donald Trump from California's 2024 presidential primary ballot. Kounalakis said California must stand on the right side of history, and follow Colorado. "The Colorado decision can be the basis for a similar decision here in our state.

News

Fascism is alive, well and thriving in the state of California. And this dope wants to be governor? Lord help us.

You're calling adherence to the Constitution, fascism?
No bar too low.

Trumpsters preach following the constitution when it comes to guns, ignoring it when it regards elections.

Sure, Jan.

 

[Harry Bosch]

How precious, California Lieutenant Governor Eleni Kounalakis is urging CA secretary of state to ban Trump from the California ballot;

Lieutenant Governor Eleni Kounalakis is urging California's Secretary of State to explore every legal option to remove former President Donald Trump from California's 2024 presidential primary ballot. Kounalakis said California must stand on the right side of history, and follow Colorado. "The Colorado decision can be the basis for a similar decision here in our state.

News

Fascism is alive, well and thriving in the state of California. And this dope wants to be governor? Lord help us.

You're calling adherence to the Constitution, fascism?
No bar too low.

Trumpsters preach following the constitution when it comes to guns, ignoring it when it regards elections.

Sure, Jan.

Oh Marsha!

 

[TomC]

Sure, Jan.

That's kinda your go to response when anyone posts something you don't like, but can't really argue against.
Tom

 

[Elixir]

Sure, Jan.

That's kinda your go to response when anyone posts something you don't like, but can't really argue against.
Tom

The board has special features so you don’t have to deal with any CWOT.

 

[Shadowy Man]

Sure, Jan.

That's kinda your go to response when anyone posts something you don't like, but can't really argue against.
Tom

His version of “OK, boomer”.

 

[lpetrich]

2024 Republican Primary: Presidential Nomination Polls | RealClearPolling - that site got a makeover.

Donald Trump is far ahead of the others, with Ron DeSantis and Nikki Haley being neck-and-neck, then Vivek Ramaswamy, then Chris Christie, then Asa Hutchinson.

Iowa is much like the nationwide average, but New Hampshire is different. NH is well ahead of the others, with CC and RdS next, then VR a little after them, then AH. South Carolina also has NH ahead of the others, with RdS next, then CC and VR, then AH.

AH is so consistently far behind that I'm surprised that he has not dropped out, as Doug Burgum has. CC, AH, and DB are roughly in the "George Bush I / Mitt Romney Republican" candidacy lane, a Republican who is sober and decent and not given to election denying, xenophobia, and suchlike MAGA themes.

 

[repoman]

Section 3 Disqualification from Holding Office​

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Before Trump or any other elected or appointed officials (not civilian citizens who are not listed) are removed/disqualified from the I think there needs to be a conviction, vote by congress or a top court ruling that Trump committed insurrection or rebellion.

Not sure how this would work, but it should be well thought out enough that if it were tried by a fascist like Trump or Republicans that they would need very powerful evidence to remove their enemies from the ballot.

Now perhaps the proactive removal from the ballots can happen, but only if this can be contested VERY QUICKLY and not found to be invalid but too late for it to matter.

Also, waiting to remove under Amendment 14 part 3 provision until there is no time left to contest is dangerous banana republic bullshit. There needs to be a deadline.

Also, I would like to see the Democratic party staff cancelling primaries in Florida and removing Marianne Williamson and so on put into the same prison cell as the Jan 6ers.

 

[ZiprHead]

Before Trump or any other elected or appointed officials (not civilian citizens who are not listed) are removed/disqualified from the I think there needs to be a conviction, vote by congress or a top court ruling that Trump committed insurrection or rebellion.

I don't see anywhere in the 14th that says a conviction is required. As a matter of fact, many have been disqualified by the 14th without conviction.

 

[Rhea]

Derail about acts that could potentially be called insurrection but have nothing to do with being on the ballots has been split to its own thread in Gen politics.

 

[Elixir]

Before Trump or any other elected or appointed officials (not civilian citizens who are not listed) are removed/disqualified from the I think there needs to be a conviction, vote by congress

Uh, yes. That’s s why Congress voted to disqualify insurrectionists. There were a lot of them, and not even J Davis was prosecuted. But they were all disqualified who had sworn an oath to support the Constitution and participated, aided, abetted gave comfort etc to an insurrection.
The difference is that now there are insurrectionists in the Union Congress, and they control one Chamber. The money is behind them though, and they are behind The Star Who Gropeth. There is much money to be made pandering to the powerful herd magnetism of MAGAtism, and media interests are first in line to scoop it up …
The good news is that the armed factions have not been defined. But betcher ass they WILL be if Orange is elected.