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The Thread For New Republican Legislation

What's odd to me is the irony of how religious the Republican party is. They seem to solely survive on people who believe that the bible is the ultimate authority in matter of religious truth & that humans are saved by gods grace. Aren't those the same people the pilgrims ran from? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Saved by grace? Mathew 25, do good works or burn. Revelation 19, we will all be judged by our works. Do evil works and burn.

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
 
What's odd to me is the irony of how religious the Republican party is. They seem to solely survive on people who believe that the bible is the ultimate authority in matter of religious truth & that humans are saved by gods grace. Aren't those the same people the pilgrims ran from? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The Pilgrims were hardly libertines; they set up some seriously authoritarian governments initially.
 
What's odd to me is the irony of how religious the Republican party is. They seem to solely survive on people who believe that the bible is the ultimate authority in matter of religious truth & that humans are saved by gods grace. Aren't those the same people the pilgrims ran from? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The Pilgrims were hardly libertines; they set up some seriously authoritarian governments initially.
They were fleeing the "persecution" of people who wouldn't let them impose their beliefs on everyone. They were literally authoritarians fleeing from a society that was prepared to defend its freedoms from them.
 
What's odd to me is the irony of how religious the Republican party is. They seem to solely survive on people who believe that the bible is the ultimate authority in matter of religious truth & that humans are saved by gods grace. Aren't those the same people the pilgrims ran from? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The Pilgrims were hardly libertines; they set up some seriously authoritarian governments initially.
They were fleeing the "persecution" of people who wouldn't let them impose their beliefs on everyone. They were literally authoritarians fleeing from a society that was prepared to defend its freedoms from them.
A little bit true, a little bit not. That was a cause of conflict to be sure, but the depradations leveled on them were also disproportionate, and it's not as though their governments were any less authoritarian by modern standards. You couldn't pay me enough to live through the 17th century in most parts of Europe... at the time when the Mayflower set sail, England had a religious zealot and noted witch hunter on the throne, who was as quick to massacre and colonize near neighbors as far away territories. His Parliament was a largely empty concession, which he dissolved by fiat not long after.

But yeah, they were all part of the same brutal society. And the Pilgrims were quick to seriously limit religious liberty wherever they went, at the point of a gun if by no other means. There was a reason Jefferson and others were worried, more than a century later, that religious fighting might be the wedge that broke their Union to shreds if governmental favoritism were permitted.
 
New Republican Legislation
Tracking Gun Purchases
...meant to detect suspicious firearms and ammunition sales

Every business that accepts credit cards has a merchant code. There's like 500 different merchant codes except guns and ammo, I reckon.
Well not anymore.

What's a merchant code for?

Seems like one of those things even law abiding gun owners can get behind. So why are some states fighting it? After all it looks like its intent is to help catch the bad guy with a gun.

Oklahoma, Texas, and West Virginia bills state higher fees cannot be charged based on the merchant code assigned. Well that is one of the purposes of merchant codes, if they consider yours a high risk business, you get charged higher fees.
 
New Republican Legislation
Tracking Gun Purchases
...meant to detect suspicious firearms and ammunition sales

Every business that accepts credit cards has a merchant code. There's like 500 different merchant codes except guns and ammo, I reckon.
Well not anymore.

What's a merchant code for?

Seems like one of those things even law abiding gun owners can get behind. So why are some states fighting it? After all it looks like its intent is to help catch the bad guy with a gun.

Oklahoma, Texas, and West Virginia bills state higher fees cannot be charged based on the merchant code assigned. Well that is one of the purposes of merchant codes, if they consider yours a high risk business, you get charged higher fees.
Merchant codes sounds like a good idea, but how would you handle cash sales, which is probably the primary way someone with nefarious intent would buy a guy anyway. Perhaps ban cash sales on guns? Maybe not a bad idea.
 
New Republican Legislation
Tracking Gun Purchases
...meant to detect suspicious firearms and ammunition sales

Every business that accepts credit cards has a merchant code. There's like 500 different merchant codes except guns and ammo, I reckon.
Well not anymore.

What's a merchant code for?

Seems like one of those things even law abiding gun owners can get behind. So why are some states fighting it? After all it looks like its intent is to help catch the bad guy with a gun.

Oklahoma, Texas, and West Virginia bills state higher fees cannot be charged based on the merchant code assigned. Well that is one of the purposes of merchant codes, if they consider yours a high risk business, you get charged higher fees.
Merchant codes sounds like a good idea, but how would you handle cash sales, which is probably the primary way someone with nefarious intent would buy a guy anyway. Perhaps ban cash sales on guns? Maybe not a bad idea.

I don’t know if that would fly or even this specific merchant code for the intended purpose. Greater legal minds will have to decide. Why there hasn’t been a merchant code for guns and ammo since before it became a political issue is a question. If you’ve looked through the list of codes, they do get rather specific.
 

A Republican state senator in Florida has introduced a bill that, if passed, would require bloggers who write about Gov. Ron DeSantis, his cabinet or state legislators to register with the state.

Florida is running full speed to fascism.
 
Florida is running full speed to fascism.
Ironic, isn't it?
The 1st Amendment was really intended to protect speech about religion and politics. It has since been used to protect a bunch of stuff the Founding Fathers couldn't have imagined, like false advertising and porno.
What Florida's legislature is trying to do here is restrict the very essence of the 1st Amendment, for political purposes.
Tom
 
What Florida's legislature is trying to do here is restrict the very essence of the 1st Amendment, for political purposes.
Right.
So... what's your point?
 
Merchant codes sounds like a good idea, but how would you handle cash sales, which is probably the primary way someone with nefarious intent would buy a guy anyway. Perhaps ban cash sales on guns? Maybe not a bad idea.
The thing is we have had multiple cases of people maxing out their credit cards to buy guns for a mass shooting/suicide since they know they won't be around to have to pay the bill. That's what this change is hoping to address.
 
thing is we have had multiple cases of people maxing out their credit cards to buy guns for a mass shooting/suicide since they know they won't be around to have to pay the bill. That's what this change is hoping to address.
"Multiple cases"?
I'm sure it's happened. But it doesn't seem like a major contributor to violent idiots bent on mayhem.

Looks more like a bandaid, virtue signaling, response.
Tom
 

A Republican state senator in Florida has introduced a bill that, if passed, would require bloggers who write about Gov. Ron DeSantis, his cabinet or state legislators to register with the state.

Florida is running full speed to fascism.
Curious how the thinking here works. Usually it’s when the courts overturn an attack on the First Amendment that leftists call it full speed to fascism. What we have here is an attempt to create a mini watered down BCRA (McCain Feingold). The article headline is disinformation — the bill does not require bloggers to register, unless someone else is paying them. The BCRA also required disclosure of donors. That’s the part of the bill the SCOTUS upheld — the only justice against requiring electioneering communications to disclose who paid for them was Clarence Thomas. The left wasn’t screaming about that — the left was screaming about how evil it was for the SCOTUS to let the activists get paid to speak out at all. So it looks an awful lot like whether the left sees paying for other people to speak as an inalienable right the government mustn’t even monitor, or as bribery the government can ban outright, depends on whether it expects the speech to be pro-left or pro-right.
 
I thought Republicans were against registration. Oh... sorry, not that kind of registration.
 
The shooter who killed 59 people at a Las Vegas music festival in 2017, for example, charged over $90,000 on credit cards prior to the shooting. The New York Times reported that the shooter had opened six new credit card accounts over the months prior, and twelve days before the shooting, began an over $26,000 firearm and ammunition buying spree. Before that, his average spending was only a mere $1,500 a month. If these gun purchases had been tagged with a [a merchant category code], Brown said, the credit card companies would have been notified of this alarming pattern.
Just one example.
But even if it only saves 59 lives, wouldn’t it be worth it?

Sorry about the sarcasm, but I just can’t see anything happening any time soon that is going to put the USA on a par with the rest of the world regarding gun violence. Laws and bills are basically just political footballs; if every firearm was made illegal today it would still take decades to reach parity. Too god damn many guns.
 
Opinion | There ain’t no cure for long covidiocy - The Washington Post
The newly formed select subcommittee on the coronavirus pandemic met for the first time for what its chairman, Rep. Brad Wenstrup (R-Ohio), said would be some “Monday-morning quarterbacking.” It instead became a Tuesday afternoon of false starts and illegal blocks.

Republicans on the panel, some of them medical doctors and others just playing one on TV, offered their predictable assessments.
  • Rep. Debbie Lesko (R-Ariz.): “covid was intentionally released” from a Chinese lab because “it would be impossible for the virus to be accidentally leaked.”
  • Rep. Richard McCormick (R-Ga.): coronavirus booster shots “do more harm than good.”
  • Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.): “Researchers found that the vaccinated are at least twice as likely to be infected with covid as the unvaccinated and those with natural immunity.”
The committee called as witnesses three advocates of herd immunity.
Two of them were co-authors of the “Great Barrington Declaration,” put out by a Koch-backed group, which argued in 2020 for letting the virus run wild through the population while somehow segregating the old and vulnerable.
This policy would have killed hundreds of thousands more people.

Martin Makary, one of the witnesses,
Makary is the guy who predicted in late February 2021 that “covid will be mostly gone by April.” He was also the source of Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’s dubious claim that face masks cause unhealthy levels of carbon dioxide in children’s blood.
 
Another witness, Jay Bhattacharya of Stanford University (also a Fox News regular, on matters medical and nonmedical), had called coronavirus testing “actively harmful” and warned about “great harm” and “danger” from vaccination. He worked on a study that claimed the covid death rate was similar to the flu’s, and he argued in March 2020 that “there’s little evidence” that “the novel coronavirus would kill millions” if left unchecked.
Then why hate on China about this virus?
Makary, mocking “King Fauci,” claimed that “the greatest perpetrator of misinformation during the pandemic has been the United States government.” Bhattacharya repeatedly complained that he and the other scientists had been “censored,” “marginalized” and “slandered” by public health “dictators.” The other witness, Swedish epidemiologist Martin Kulldorff, called covid restrictions “the worst assault” on the poor and middle class “since segregation.”

In the witnesses’ telling, public health officials and scientists were wrong about everything — masks, vaccines, natural immunity, shutdowns — while the dissidents were unerring.
For marginalized people, they have become big celebrities in right-wing news media.
 
Another witness, Jay Bhattacharya of Stanford University (also a Fox News regular, on matters medical and nonmedical), had called coronavirus testing “actively harmful” and warned about “great harm” and “danger” from vaccination. He worked on a study that claimed the covid death rate was similar to the flu’s, and he argued in March 2020 that “there’s little evidence” that “the novel coronavirus would kill millions” if left unchecked.
Then why hate on China about this virus?
Makary, mocking “King Fauci,” claimed that “the greatest perpetrator of misinformation during the pandemic has been the United States government.” Bhattacharya repeatedly complained that he and the other scientists had been “censored,” “marginalized” and “slandered” by public health “dictators.” The other witness, Swedish epidemiologist Martin Kulldorff, called covid restrictions “the worst assault” on the poor and middle class “since segregation.”

In the witnesses’ telling, public health officials and scientists were wrong about everything — masks, vaccines, natural immunity, shutdowns — while the dissidents were unerring.
For marginalized people, they have become big celebrities in right-wing news media.
The fear of the vaccine, which killed likely close to zero people, trumping the disease itself, which killed one million Americans before their time, taking a year plus off their lives.

No more sensical than fear of dihydrogen monoxide.
 
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