TRUMP DECLARES HIMSELF ENEMY OF THE UNITED STATES

[RVonse]

Then you really don't want an election but a revolution.

I prefer we have a peaceful political revolution which is what our founders would want also.

Because kicking the can down the road only gets us to either:
1) A violent revolution or
2) A tyranical government using digital control over our lives (we are almost there IMO)

 

[bilby]

And you want to give him important props because he didn't care about the entrenched state?

At this point that and that alone is so so much more important than just being corrupt. Changing back to a government that represents the people again is first priority over everthing else. And right now about half the population get this and the other half does not.

How does giving power to someone who doesn't care about "the entrenched state" because he doesn't give a crap about anyone or anything other than himself get you closer to "a government that represents the people again"?

You are actively making a bad situation worse; You are so keen to stop a small group of people, who don't care much about you, from having unreasonable power, that you have blinded yourself to the fact that the proposed "solution" is to kick those fuckers out (yay!) and replace them with a single individual, who doesn't care at all about you. (boo!)

 

[Elixir]

Changing back to a government that represents the people again

Like, WHEN?

WHEN was the time you want to go back to? Please pick a year, decade or century.
Otgerwise this is 100% pure vaporware like “the steal”.

 

[RVonse]

How does giving power to someone who doesn't care about "the entrenched state" because he doesn't give a crap about anyone or anything other than himself get you closer to "a government that represents the people again"?

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

 

[laughing dog]

How does giving power to someone who doesn't care about "the entrenched state" because he doesn't give a crap about anyone or anything other than himself get you closer to "a government that represents the people again"?

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

A policy that always backfires in the long run.

 

[laughing dog]

Then you really don't want an election but a revolution.

I prefer we have a peaceful political revolution which is what our founders would want also.

The ones who started and fought a war?

Because kicking the can down the road only gets us to either:
1) A violent revolution or
2) A tyranical government using digital control over our lives (we are almost there IMO)

You mean like Mr. Trump wanted?

 

[bilby]

How does giving power to someone who doesn't care about "the entrenched state" because he doesn't give a crap about anyone or anything other than himself get you closer to "a government that represents the people again"?

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

That, sir, is a falsehood that will get you royally fucked over by vicious cunts masquerading as your friends, because they want to manipulate you into fighting their enemies for them.

 

[RVonse]

Changing back to a government that represents the people again

Like, WHEN?

WHEN was the time you want to go back to? Please pick a year, decade or century.
Otgerwise this is 100% pure vaporware like “the steal”.

Pre JFK. We still felt much more like a democracy before JFK, though the steady erosion has been taking place since the late 1800's.. But pre-JFK, a POTUS like Eisenhowever could at least talk truthfully about the military industrial complex when they addressed the nation. And that could never happen today.

 

[Elixir]

Pre JFK

How old were you “pre-JFK”?
Eisenhower did great things for the Country by leveraging post-WWII military nationalism into infrastructure investments, by levying 90% tax rates on the multimillionaires of the day.
Is that what you miss? Or was it the total disempowerment of minorities?

ETA: I do have fond recollections of “covering” under my one-seat desk…

 

[RVonse]

Then you really don't want an election but a revolution.

I prefer we have a peaceful political revolution which is what our founders would want also.

The ones who started and fought a war?

Because kicking the can down the road only gets us to either:
1) A violent revolution or
2) A tyranical government using digital control over our lives (we are almost there IMO)

You mean like Mr. Trump wanted?

When did Mr. Trump start a war? If anything, he wanted to cool our relationship with Russia.

And January 6th was NOT an insurection even if you want to pretend Trump had complete control over it. January 6th was a riot at the capital. AFAIK, no people were violently harmed except the rioters themselves. If January 6th represents the most violence we would need to see in order to fix our deeply flawed government we would actually be better off for it.

 

[crazyfingers]

And January 6th was NOT an insurection even if you want to pretend Trump had complete control over it. January 6th was a riot at the capital.

It was an attempted coup*. Partly orchestrated by Trump, to illegally overturn the presidential election and to keep Trump in power for 4 more years.

*. A sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government.

 

[Gun Nut]

Yes, the flag hugging liar who swore to defend the Constitution has declared that "all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution" should be terminated, so that he can be installed as dictator.
Personally I feel that he should be locked up today, just as we would lock up anyone else who has attacked the United States and declares their intent to do so again.
I understand that because he is impotent this is simple bombast, but in the greater interest I think he should be declared an enemy of the State and treated as such.
Obviously the man is delusional, and like the crazy guy on the streecorner, he thinks he's Napoleon. He has convinced himself that he is the rightful Ruler of the Land, and is surrounded by so many sycophants that he thinks everyone else (or at least, a super majority) agrees that he is King. His animal instinct tells him (correctly) that "they" are trying to corner and kill him, and as the walls close in he will be calling for every more specific treasonous acts to be committed for his benefit.
Let's do the Republican party a YUUUUUGE favor and put that dirtbag away NOW!

Site? What actually did he say?

Oh....I forgot this is a liberal OP. So no actual statement or link to a statement is needed. Just your own opinion is good enough for the clapping seals since its about Trump. To hell with knowing what actually was said.

"Interesting" when the quote was provided "someone" got REAL quiet and ran away. and by "interesting" i mean "a dishonest cult member".

 

[laughing dog]

Then you really don't want an election but a revolution.

I prefer we have a peaceful political revolution which is what our founders would want also.

The ones who started and fought a war?

Because kicking the can down the road only gets us to either:
1) A violent revolution or
2) A tyranical government using digital control over our lives (we are almost there IMO)

You mean like Mr. Trump wanted?

When did Mr. Trump start a war? If anything, he wanted to cool our relationship with Russia.

Our founders were in favor of violent revolutions.

And January 6th was NOT an insurection even if you want to pretend Trump had complete control over it. January 6th was a riot at the capital.

Unfortunately for you, there are insurrections being convicted of conspiracy to commit sedition. Mr. Trump aided, abetted and helped plan that "riot".

AFAIK, no people were violently harmed except the rioters themselves.

More than 100 capital police officers were injured on Jan. 6 (Officers injured on Jan. 6 ).

If January 6th represents the most violence we would need to see in order to fix our deeply flawed government we would actually be better off for it.

It clearly doesn't, since it didn't succeed in either overthrowing the gov't or convincing people like you that was fucking wrong.

 

[Gun Nut]

Then you really don't want an election but a revolution.

I prefer we have a peaceful political revolution which is what our founders would want also.

The ones who started and fought a war?

Because kicking the can down the road only gets us to either:
1) A violent revolution or
2) A tyranical government using digital control over our lives (we are almost there IMO)

You mean like Mr. Trump wanted?

When did Mr. Trump start a war? If anything, he wanted to cool our relationship with Russia.

And January 6th was NOT an insurection even if you want to pretend Trump had complete control over it. January 6th was a riot at the capital. AFAIK, no people were violently harmed except the rioters themselves. If January 6th represents the most violence we would need to see in order to fix our deeply flawed government we would actually be better off for it.

Fucking worthless Cultists and their sobbing wet brainwashed minds inventing whatever historical record fits their chosen narrative.. These people belong in Guantanamo bay with the rest of the terrorist anti-American pieces of shit that should be hung till their legs stop kicking...
Want to fix the country - evict these terrorists and all of their supporters... I hear the taliban appreciates undying pledges of blind loyalty... ya'll fit right in

 

[Elixir]

AFAIK, no people were violently harmed except the rioters themselves.

WHAT?!!!
Over a hundred forty dead or injured Capitol Police officers, and AS FAR AS RVONSE KNOWS, it didn’t happen?!?!

So much for RV knowing fucking ANYTHING.
Gun Nut may be right. Fuck these dishonest idiots.

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

Put him in your ignore file. It helps make IIDB more better. A person who cannot reason or acknowledge facts adds nothing to your life.

 

[Elixir]

Put him in your ignore file. It helps make IIDB more better. A person who cannot reason or acknowledge facts adds nothing to your life.

I have done that with most of the ilk. Wanted to leave that one live on my feed, just as a specimen sample. Guess I now know everything anyone needs to know about it. Abject dishonesty displays are truly disheartening.

 

[RVonse]

Yes, the flag hugging liar who swore to defend the Constitution has declared that "all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution" should be terminated, so that he can be installed as dictator.
Personally I feel that he should be locked up today, just as we would lock up anyone else who has attacked the United States and declares their intent to do so again.
I understand that because he is impotent this is simple bombast, but in the greater interest I think he should be declared an enemy of the State and treated as such.
Obviously the man is delusional, and like the crazy guy on the streecorner, he thinks he's Napoleon. He has convinced himself that he is the rightful Ruler of the Land, and is surrounded by so many sycophants that he thinks everyone else (or at least, a super majority) agrees that he is King. His animal instinct tells him (correctly) that "they" are trying to corner and kill him, and as the walls close in he will be calling for every more specific treasonous acts to be committed for his benefit.
Let's do the Republican party a YUUUUUGE favor and put that dirtbag away NOW!

Site? What actually did he say?

Oh....I forgot this is a liberal OP. So no actual statement or link to a statement is needed. Just your own opinion is good enough for the clapping seals since its about Trump. To hell with knowing what actually was said.

"Interesting" when the quote was provided "someone" got REAL quiet and ran away. and by "interesting" i mean "a dishonest cult member".

What quote was that? I still haven't actually seen anywhere in this thread what he actually said. Ive seen a lot of opinions and links to other sites giving partial quotes and their opinions however.

 

[Elixir]

Yes, the flag hugging liar who swore to defend the Constitution has declared that "all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution" should be terminated, so that he can be installed as dictator.
Personally I feel that he should be locked up today, just as we would lock up anyone else who has attacked the United States and declares their intent to do so again.
I understand that because he is impotent this is simple bombast, but in the greater interest I think he should be declared an enemy of the State and treated as such.
Obviously the man is delusional, and like the crazy guy on the streecorner, he thinks he's Napoleon. He has convinced himself that he is the rightful Ruler of the Land, and is surrounded by so many sycophants that he thinks everyone else (or at least, a super majority) agrees that he is King. His animal instinct tells him (correctly) that "they" are trying to corner and kill him, and as the walls close in he will be calling for every more specific treasonous acts to be committed for his benefit.
Let's do the Republican party a YUUUUUGE favor and put that dirtbag away NOW!

Site? What actually did he say?

Oh....I forgot this is a liberal OP. So no actual statement or link to a statement is needed. Just your own opinion is good enough for the clapping seals since its about Trump. To hell with knowing what actually was said.

"Interesting" when the quote was provided "someone" got REAL quiet and ran away. and by "interesting" i mean "a dishonest cult member".

What quote was that? I still haven't actually seen anywhere in this thread what he actually said. Ive seen a lot of opinions and links to other sites giving partial quotes and their opinions however.

Done spoon-feeding RW children. I gave you links to the full tweet.
Buh bye.

 

[Patooka]

What quote was that? I still haven't actually seen anywhere in this thread what he actually said. Ive seen a lot of opinions and links to other sites giving partial quotes and their opinions however

This is just pathetic.