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Trump Just Secured His Re-Election! Mexico Caved!

Why on earth would the solution to one problem be anyhow related to another completely different problem?

You are making another terrible argument.

Leftist on gun control: Sure, gun control won't stop everyone from getting guns. But, it will stop some people from getting guns.

Leftist on the border wall: The wall won't stop every illegal from coming in. So, let's not build it.

Please point out the flaw.
Right wing nutbags on Gun control: You can't stop guns. If you outlaw guns, only bad guys will have guns. (actually the number of mind numbingly dumb things the right wingers believe about guns is staggering, but that's not the point) So don't pass any laws trying to stop people and kids from getting shot!

Right wingers on abortion: Ban them all!! (with laws that don't work, by their own propaganda)

Right wingers on the border: Take the children away, let them die, send them back to their shithole that we helped create, and build a wall (that doesn't work).

Also right wingers: We're the part of small government....

Yeah, you're on pretty flimsy ground there HL, but you know that already.
 
I notice you didn't answer the question. I would like the record to show that it is highly probable that you allow a whopping total of 0 immigrants to live in your house with you.

"Open borders, but not open houses" One would think leftists house would be filled with 30 immigrants partying having a great time peacefully.

By your own logic, whoever Loren doesn't want living in his house, doesn't belong in the USA. (Has he DMed you for a sleep over? if not, start packing)

That's a terrible argument you are trying to make.
I expect HL to sign up for the military the instant we try to invade Iran. Otherwise, he doesn't really support the war against Iran.

HL, would you like directions to the nearest recruiting office?
LOL...sure, sign up for war himself...that is funny. He'd be in the same line as Cheney, Rumsfeld, Romney, Gingrich, GW Bush, Bonespurs, et.al.

Even funnier is H-L lumping Loren up with those 'leftists'.
 
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-...ith-mexico-to-avoid-tariffs-today-2019-06-07/

"President Trump tweeted Friday night that a deal had been signed with Mexico to avoid tariffs that were set to start Monday. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo more formally announced the agreement shortly thereafter.

The announcement avoids what economists and Republicans feared would be damaging to the U.S. economy. According to Mexico's foreign minister, the agreement calls for Mexico to deploy its national guard throughout the country, as well as allow migrants to wait in Mexico while their asylum claims are adjudicated. The agreement also calls for Mexico to offer jobs, health care and education."

What a historic day. Trump sure is a shrewd businessman. 2.5/8 years in so far and getting historical results at a historical rate. Obama also had historical results in 8 years...he was the President with the least amount of accomplishments.

... and the Nazi war machine invented rockets... Why didn't Hitler get reelected again?
 
Trump.
Trump said that.
All long, he's said we need a wall to stop drugs, ignoring the fact that most drugs go thru legal ports.
He's said we need the wall to stop illegal immigrants, ignoring yhe fact that mist enter legally, but don't go home when they are supposed to.

So, no, i did not 'get'you.
Bonespurs got you.




Or, you're just trolling.... So, you clearly KNOW that walls don't work.
Now expect a shift to yet another goalpost... But tge Shitgibbon is not promising a reduction.
He's holding Dems responsible for all the drugs because they won't build his wall.







Clearly, you are only here to ddtir the pot.

Bye bye.

I fail to see your point. Most leftists argue for more gun control because it would stop some people from getting a gun, but not all people. But, now you are saying that since the wall won't stop ALL immigrants, then we shouldn't build it.

You see the inconsistency?

The inconsistency is with Trump... HE said it would stop all drugs... Reality says it wouldn't stop even most drugs... that's all. Anything that requires public funding but fails to have justification should not be done. Trump's justification fails.
 
Some of the flaws (note the plural) are
1) the wall is an expensive and environmentally destructive way to achieve the same level of border security,
2) the "crisis" at the border is overblown by racists and bigots, and
3) no leftist I know makes your argument about the wall.

Don't even try to complain that the wall is too expensive when Bernie the Magic Man wants free healthcare, free education, and the green new deal.

If only you guys were around when the Great Wall of China was being built. You would've said, "What a waste guys. We don't need a wall."

You realize the Great Wall of China didn't work?

Sure it did! It represented the ability and know-how of the Chinese. True, it did fail to keep intruders out, but what does that have to do with anything?
 
Low-paying jobs are low-paying jobs for a reason: because people show up and are willing to work for that price.

"Willing"? How do you equate "willing" with "do it or die, because you have no alternatives/options"? Are you under the impression that people who work at Walmart, for example, chose to work there over the dozens of other alternative places they could have worked instead? That, as children, they said, "Boy, I can't wait to grow up and work a shitty retail job, barely scraping by on poverty wages with no job security, future or basic benefits"?

Let me try to explain this again.

If Walmart advertises for $10 an hour and people show up willing to work for it, then you have a price that people are willing to work for. If nobody showed up to $10 an hour, then Walmart would be forced to change it to $11 an hour and see if anybody shows up. If nobody still shows up, they would change it to $12 an hour. If nobody shows up, they would change it to $13 an hour. They would keep doing this until people show up willing to work for the price that they say.

It's not "Do it or starve!" If Walmart sets up $10 an hour and millions of people flock to the store to apply, Walmart says "Well that was easy." If people just didn't show up for the low wages, then wages all across the U.S. would rise because companies wouldn't be able to get people willing to do the job for low pay.

Blame the people. It's all in their hands. This is very simple economics.
 
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-...ith-mexico-to-avoid-tariffs-today-2019-06-07/

"President Trump tweeted Friday night that a deal had been signed with Mexico to avoid tariffs that were set to start Monday. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo more formally announced the agreement shortly thereafter.

The announcement avoids what economists and Republicans feared would be damaging to the U.S. economy. According to Mexico's foreign minister, the agreement calls for Mexico to deploy its national guard throughout the country, as well as allow migrants to wait in Mexico while their asylum claims are adjudicated. The agreement also calls for Mexico to offer jobs, health care and education."

What a historic day. Trump sure is a shrewd businessman. 2.5/8 years in so far and getting historical results at a historical rate. Obama also had historical results in 8 years...he was the President with the least amount of accomplishments.

... and the Nazi war machine invented rockets... Why didn't Hitler get reelected again?

Creepy Uncle Joe Biden is beating Bernie in the polls. A creepy touchy-feely man who flip-flops constantly is beating out the so-called man of the people Bernie. Biden is so out of touch.

Trump has it in the bag.
 
If Walmart advertises for $10 an hour and people show up willing to work for it, then you have a price that people are willing to work for.

Wow. It's a small comfort to know that in earlier times you'd be one of the first to have their heads cut off in the town square. But think of it this way, if the guillotine was put there and your head was cut off, then that must mean you were willing to get your head cut off, so that's great!
:thumbsup:
 
If Walmart advertises for $10 an hour and people show up willing to work for it, then you have a price that people are willing to work for.

Wow. It's a small comfort to know that in earlier times you'd be one of the first to have their heads cut off in the town square. But think of it this way, if the guillotine was put there and your head was cut off, then that must mean you were willing to get your head cut off, so that's great!
:thumbsup:

I just made a whole post detailing how the PEOPLE can WIN!

Did you only stop after the first sentence?
 
If Walmart advertises for $10 an hour and people show up willing to work for it, then you have a price that people are willing to work for.

Wow. It's a small comfort to know that in earlier times you'd be one of the first to have their heads cut off in the town square. But think of it this way, if the guillotine was put there and your head was cut off, then that must mean you were willing to get your head cut off, so that's great!
:thumbsup:

I just made a whole post detailing how the PEOPLE can WIN!

Und arbeit macht frei!
 
The economy is booming? Seen the recent jobs numbers?

Debate? His Flatulence couldn't rip a piece of paper.

Ben Shapiro has 3 rules for getting out of poverty:

1. Graduate high school
2. Get a job
3. Don't have kids until you're married

People these days want to be coddled. They want a $15 minimum wage for jobs that high school kids are supposed to do. Fast food is something you are supposed to do in high school to get some experience before you move on to better things. It's not meant to have some 40 year old being a full time cashier complaining that he can't live on his paycheck. I'm sorry, but if you are 40 years old and the only job you are qualified for is a job that hires 16 year old kids, you have failed at life. It sounds harsh, but we can't keep sugar coating these things. Coddling people does nothing. It just keeps them satisfied and stagnant. I see 22 year old people with office jobs making 60-70K a year. No excuse for a 40 year old to be working as a cashier at a fast food place while complaining about his life to 16 year olds who work with him.

1) This has nothing to do with how His Flatulence would perform in a debate.

2) This is about not fucking up your life, it says nothing about the state of the economy. Jobs don't boom and bust based on how many people have a child too early.

3) #3 is wrong, anyway--don't have a child until your education is complete and you have a stable job situation. Being married is a good idea but not enough.
 
Low-paying jobs are low-paying jobs for a reason: because people show up and are willing to work for that price.

"Willing"? How do you equate "willing" with "do it or die, because you have no alternatives/options"? Are you under the impression that people who work at Walmart, for example, chose to work there over the dozens of other alternative places they could have worked instead? That, as children, they said, "Boy, I can't wait to grow up and work a shitty retail job, barely scraping by on poverty wages with no job security, future or basic benefits"?

Let me try to explain this again.

If Walmart advertises for $10 an hour and people show up willing to work for it, then you have a price that people are willing to work for. If nobody showed up to $10 an hour, then Walmart would be forced to change it to $11 an hour and see if anybody shows up. If nobody still shows up, they would change it to $12 an hour. If nobody shows up, they would change it to $13 an hour. They would keep doing this until people show up willing to work for the price that they say.

It's not "Do it or starve!" If Walmart sets up $10 an hour and millions of people flock to the store to apply, Walmart says "Well that was easy." If people just didn't show up for the low wages, then wages all across the U.S. would rise because companies wouldn't be able to get people willing to do the job for low pay.

Blame the people. It's all in their hands. This is very simple economics.

You're making it a bit too simple.

It's the result of a lot of uneducated people in society, not the fault of any given individual. Your individual skills say where you will be on the salary tree, the distribution of skills in society says what those spots will pay.
 
You're making it a bit too simple.

It's the result of a lot of uneducated people in society, not the fault of any given individual. Your individual skills say where you will be on the salary tree, the distribution of skills in society says what those spots will pay.

No! No! No!

If people did not show up to these jobs, they would be forced to raise the wage! It's so simple! They would have no choice!
 
You're making it a bit too simple.

It's the result of a lot of uneducated people in society, not the fault of any given individual. Your individual skills say where you will be on the salary tree, the distribution of skills in society says what those spots will pay.

No! No! No!

If people did not show up to these jobs

They would die. That's why it's not "so simple." The people you are casually telling to eat cake don't have the option of not showing up. Could you seriously not work that out on your own?
 
You're making it a bit too simple.

It's the result of a lot of uneducated people in society, not the fault of any given individual. Your individual skills say where you will be on the salary tree, the distribution of skills in society says what those spots will pay.

No! No! No!

If people did not show up to these jobs

They would die. That's why it's not "so simple." The people you are casually telling to eat cake don't have the option of not showing up. Could you seriously not work that out on your own?

How were they alive before they saw the advertisement for $10 an hour?
 
They would die. That's why it's not "so simple." The people you are casually telling to eat cake don't have the option of not showing up. Could you seriously not work that out on your own?

How were they alive before they saw the advertisement for $10 an hour?

How many times did your nanny push in your little fontanel?
 
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