Don2 (Don1 Revised)
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Should the US have dissolved last year(s) when anti-sodomy laws were still on the books in some states?
A case could certainly be made. But that would be a question for our own democratic insitutions to resolve.Should the US have dissolved last year(s) when anti-sodomy laws were still on the books in some states?
I think all of us agree that the law passed in Uganda is horrible and violent. Some members simply wanted to remind us that it was White Christians who influenced most of these African nations in dreadful ways.I have absolutely no doubt that this is true.That is actually true.Spurred on by conservative Christians from America (see Jesus Camp).Violently homophobic Africans.
Tom
In the 90s there was a split in the American Anglican church over liberalization. The conservative side aligned with an anti gay congregation in Uganda.
American poltiicians ans have gne to Afrca to promote and support anti gay laws.
How is it relevant to the OP?
The Ugandan government has made homosexuality a capital crime. That's about as violent as homophobia gets.
Tom
Gay people and Trans people have been vilified and murdered in our own country. Our current federal laws don't permit hurting gay and trans folks, but if we don't get a grip, we may end up with an autocratic country with hateful leaders taking us backwards to the days where it was okay to physically harm minorities. We are already heading in that direction. Can we at least all agree to unite against that?Greg Forrister, a Cedartown resident who is in the home inspection industry, said he has always opposed the idea of same-sex marriage.
“It clearly states in the Bible, God creates male and female,” the 58-year-old said. “It’s against God’s law for a man to have sex with another man and a woman to have sex with another woman.”
Well, Africa is as likely to unite as the great Islamic Republic is.Ugandans, like all humans, have their beliefs and can sometimes make choices that others find questionable. While I strongly disagree with their anti-gay laws, this does not detract from my (off-topic) hope that African nations will unite. Such unity can lead to better control over their resources and enhance trade both internally and globally for their ultimate progress.
A case could certainly be made. But that would be a question for our own democratic insitutions to resolve.Should the US have dissolved last year(s) when anti-sodomy laws were still on the books in some states?
Well, Africa is as likely to unite as the great Islamic Republic is.Ugandans, like all humans, have their beliefs and can sometimes make choices that others find questionable. While I strongly disagree with their anti-gay laws, this does not detract from my (off-topic) hope that African nations will unite. Such unity can lead to better control over their resources and enhance trade both internally and globally for their ultimate progress.
Honestly, it takes quite a bit for people unite. The UN didn't form until after we started dropping nuclear weapons on civilians and a massive conspiracy occurred that led to the massacre of ten million Jewish and other "undesirables" in Europe.
Funny which nations always seem to show up when an African nation calls for aid or intervention, eh? We still pretend that "the West" is bringing "civilization" or "modernity" to the other nations of the world, even though the real economic prerogative of the major players has always been to keep colonies or client nations in a permanent state of dependent near-sustainability, and that shines through along nearly every plane of international contact.Well, Africa is as likely to unite as the great Islamic Republic is.Ugandans, like all humans, have their beliefs and can sometimes make choices that others find questionable. While I strongly disagree with their anti-gay laws, this does not detract from my (off-topic) hope that African nations will unite. Such unity can lead to better control over their resources and enhance trade both internally and globally for their ultimate progress.
Honestly, it takes quite a bit for people unite. The UN didn't form until after we started dropping nuclear weapons on civilians and a massive conspiracy occurred that led to the massacre of ten million Jewish and other "undesirables" in Europe.
My (off-topic) aspiration for African nations to unite is not to suggest that all must do so. However, such unity could provide a platform to reduce external influences that sometimes result in laws akin to Uganda's anti-LGBTQ+ legislation. To oversimplify, stronger & better trade agreements with nations like the US, France, Spain, Germany, and the UK complete with trade agreements and improved infrastructure with neighboring countries, could deter African countries from partnering with nations like China, India, and Tanzania – all of which have concerning stances on LGBTQ+ rights. By drawing inspiration from African countries that are prospering off their resources, African nations like Uganda might recognize the benefits of adhering to international non-discrimination standards. Regrettably, former colonizers who no longer identify as such still treat African nations as if they were colonies.
The phrase 'Unify Africa' is self-explanatory.
But I still don't know what you mean by "Unify Africa".
But I still don't know what you mean by "Unify Africa".
Unify Africa Oversimplified - An ambitious vision where African nations come together to foster deeper infrastructure, trade ties, and control over their own natural and economic resources. By building collaborative cross-border infrastructural projects and establishing seamless trade routes, perhaps even considering a unified economic policy or currency, the goal of Unify Africa is not only to bolster intra-Africa trade but also to ensure that the continent's vast natural resources are leveraged for the collective benefit of its nations and peoples.
Do you see any path toward a more unified Africa that consists of incremental unification of smaller states until you get a really big one that can absorb the others without mayhem?Laws in Uganda targeting the LGBT community are but a glimpse of the broader challenges faced by African nations, many rooted in the colonial legacy. While it's undeniable that African nations are responsible for their internal issues, the impact of colonialism on the continent is similar to the moon's influence over our oceans. To better position for the ebbs and flows of the tide, one must consider the moon's influence.
Do you see any path toward a more unified Africa that consists of incremental unification of smaller states until you get a really big one that can absorb the others without mayhem?
That would be a recipe for disaster. So many of the problems Africa already faces are the product of arbitrary colonial national boundaries that ignore local realities.
Do you see any path toward a more unified Africa that consists of incremental unification of smaller states until you get a really big one that can absorb the others without mayhem?