Well... it's Trump... again. #47, here we go.

[Derec]

FLOTUS looked so uncomfortable and very stiff. She plays a role to get what she wants.

Are we sure she is not a spy?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Dumbfuck's minions, in Trump's EO that declares that there are only males and females actually defines EVERYONE as a female because it says that

""In the definition, the order claims, "'Female' means a person belonging, at conception, to the sex that produces the large reproductive cell." It then says, “"

""What critics point out is the crucial phrase "at conception." According to the Associated Press, the second "order declares that the federal government would recognize only two immutable sexes: male and female. And they’re to be defined based on whether people are born with eggs or sperm, rather than on their chromosomes, according to details of the upcoming order.""

""Conception results in a single cell that does not have gonads or make gametes, obviously. It's weeks into development before the organs for pelvic anatomy start to be established, and even then, how they'll develop isn't a given," she began. "During development, a mix of structures can be retained. Plenty of people born XY walking around with little fallopian tube remnants. People don't start producing 'small reproductive cells' until they enter puberty. The large reproductive cell technically isn't produced unless a sperm fuses with it.""

""Just realized that this EO outlaws men. At conception, all embryos are female. Which, to be honest, might not be such a bad thing," said legal analyst Jay Reding."

OMFG, I need to change my passport and my driver's license and all other shit!

'All Americans legally female': Trump invites mockery with sloppy executive order

President Donald Trump published two executive orders late Monday that targeted transgender people, but critics couldn't help but note that the clunky language declared all Americans legally female. One of Trump's order is titled "Defending Women from Gender Ideology Extremism and Restoring...

www.rawstory.com

These idiots mocked liberals for not being able to "define" what a male and female were. And they fucked it up.

But it does remind me of this from SNL many years ago.

 

[crazyfingers]

""Just realized that this EO outlaws men. At conception, all embryos are female.

Not really true.
Embryos start out undifferentiated, as they develop bipotential gonads and both Wolffian and Müllerian ducts.

At Conception. We are not talking about a day after conception, 3 days, a week, a month, 6 months, 7 years or 12 years. The EO says AT Conception. At conception you have a Zygot. One cell.

"""(The) order declares that the federal government would recognize only two immutable sexes: male and female. And they’re to be defined based on whether people are born with eggs or sperm, rather than on their chromosomes, according to details of the upcoming order.""

Zygots have neither eggs nor sperm.

 

[scombrid]

The prevailing viewpoint of many in the MAGA movement is that Democrats and establishment RINOs are bought off by big pharma, big agriculture, and bankers to rob us and poison us. They murder people at will when someone gets in their way. They plan 9/11, for example, to get us involved in wars and rob our money, not even batting an eye at the murder of Americans. They have open borders in order to destroy American culture, steal our jobs, lower our wages, and allow rampant crime. They also have access to sex with kids and frequently partake through their networks of celebrities and other elites.

I constantly hear people remark how all the establishment politicians are very corrupt and belong in jail. That they are destroying the country.

Given all that, what's a couple thousand pardoned felons (who were politically persecuted) in comparison? You don't have to be a sociopath to prefer Trump to that if your brain rot has spread this deep, which it most definitely has for millions of Americans.

That is it entirely. They all believe that the J6 convictions were political persecutions. Strange that they don’t flinch at Zuckerberg, Bezos, and Musk having Trump’s back.

 

[Derec]

Zygots have neither eggs nor sperm.

Which means they are not female. You claimed via RawStory that all embryos are female.
I am not defending the poorly worded executive order, I was taking issue with the claim made by a legal analyst Jay Redding that "at conception, all embryos are female", a claim which you bolded. And that claim was wrong. Embryos start out undifferentiated, which is why they initially develop both sets of ducts.
Also, it's spelled "zygotes".

 

[crazyfingers]

Zygots have neither eggs nor sperm.

Which means they are not female. You claimed via RawStory that all embryos are female.
I am not defending the poorly worded executive order, I was taking issue with the claim made by a legal analyst Jay Redding that "at conception, all embryos are female", a claim which you bolded. And that claim was wrong. Embryos start out undifferentiated, which is why they initially develop both sets of ducts.
Also, it's spelled "zygotes".

"Geneticists have discovered that all human embryos start life as females, as do all embryos of mammals. "

Some biology of sexuality - PubMed

Some biology of sexuality

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Sex Begins in the Womb - Exploring the Biological Contributions to Human Health - NCBI Bookshelf

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

And note that there are two EO's. Zygot or Enbryo. Neither definition works.

 

[Derec]

Trump pardons white thugs who physically assaulted police officers.
link
The people who got the big convictions had their sentences commuted.
Law and Order folks.

I guess even murdering FBI agents is ok as long as the thug in question is not white?

What does it matter that they are white?

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Trump pardons white thugs who physically assaulted police officers.
link
The people who got the big convictions had their sentences commuted.
Law and Order folks.

I guess even murdering FBI agents is ok as long as the thug in question is not white?

As minor note... the guy who was convicted of the killing served 50 years and the guy is 80 now. I'm uncertain how I feel about his pardoning as I'm not as well researched on every minority that ever committed a crime, but it is no way relevant to the January 6th mob (over 1000 people) as the person in question had at least served 5 decades in prison. He was in prison before Disco.

What does it matter that they are white?

Your race baiting and obsession with race is so tired. But I suppose that is all you have, well that and gaslighting.

 

[GenesisNemesis]

Trump pardons white thugs who physically assaulted police officers.
link
The people who got the big convictions had their sentences commuted.
Law and Order folks.

I guess even murdering FBI agents is ok as long as the thug in question is not white?

What does it matter that they are white?

I guess you would have completely ignored this if not for the "white" part?

 

[Derec]

"Geneticists have discovered that all human embryos start life as females, as do all embryos of mammals. "

Some biology of sexuality - PubMed

Some biology of sexuality

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Geneticists have done no such thing!
Note that this is an article from 1974 by a psychiatrist.

Sex Begins in the Womb - Exploring the Biological Contributions to Human Health - NCBI Bookshelf

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

During early development the gonads of the fetus remain undifferentiated

What is true that in absence of certain genetic signals the undifferentiated embryo will develop into a female. But that is not the same as saying that embryos start out female.

And note that there are two EO's. Zygot or Enbryo. Neither definition works.

It's still spelled "zygote". Also "embryo".

 

[Derec]

I guess you would have completely ignored this if not for the "white" part?

If you did not make a point of their race, there would have been nothing wrong with your statement.
Yes, Trump is wrong for freeing 1/6ers. But presidents often misuse executive clemency to free extremists from their side. It did not start with Trump. It will not end with him, unless his presidency triggers passing of a constitutional amendment to limit or eliminate executive clemency powers.

 

[laughing dog]

I guess you would have completely ignored this if not for the "white" part?

If you did not make a point of their race, there would have been nothing wrong with your statement.
Yes, Trump is wrong for freeing 1/6ers. But presidents often misuse executive clemency to free extremists from their side. It did not start with Trump. It will not end with him, unless his presidency triggers passing of a constitutional amendment to limit or eliminate executive clemency powers.

Trump could amend executive order eliminating birthright citizenship to include executive clemency powers.

 

[Derec]

As minor note... the guy who was convicted of the killing served 50 years and the guy is 80 now. I'm uncertain how I feel about his pardoning as I'm not as well researched on every minority that ever committed a crime, but it is no way relevant to the January 6th mob (over 1000 people) as the person in question had at least served 5 decades in prison. He was in prison before Disco.

He also committed a much worse crime than any of the January 6th people. He should have died in prison.

Your race baiting and obsession with race is so tired. But I suppose that is all you have, well that and gaslighting.

It was GenesisNemesis who made a point of them being white. So if anybody is race baiting, it was him.
And I do not even understand how anything I wrote is "gaslighting".

 

[Shadowy Man]

Who was President in 2020?

True, Trump was president when it kicked off early 2020 but then Brandon took over early 2021. And took the credit for the vaccine if iirc

I don’t think you rc. My recollection is that Donald wouldn’t shut up about taking credit for the vaccine and “operation warp speed”.

Even when his followers wouldn’t take it.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Propaganda works. It always has. Unfortunately the lady you exercise with and your neighbor don't see it, like the lonely older men (and women) who fall for the romance/pig-butchering scams and lose all their money. I'm sure they're nice people, too.

Yup. I've seen it in action. A bunch of intelligent people falling for some pretty simple manipulation and defending them when I pointed out how it was being done. Only one other person in the group recognized it--the common factor being both of us grew up around psychologists, although neither of us had formal training.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I am pleasantly suprised that the sun rose again this morning.
After all those orders were signed I was sure the world would explode.

EOs can only do so much. A number of them are already in the courts. This was a test day to see where he was going to lead the nation. The release of the January 6th thugs that beat police officers wasn't a particular good starting point.

But at least we don't have 30% tariffs on all goods right off the bat. He also missed his Ukraine War deadline.

Actually, I was hoping for tariffs. Hopefully a wake-up before he corrupts the system too badly.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I am pleasantly suprised that the sun rose again this morning.
After all those orders were signed I was sure the world would explode.

1 million people died in his last term dude. Do you just not give a fuck?

People die every day fella, lots of them. There is nothing unusual in that. If you are referring to Covid, that would actually be under Brandon's watch.

Huh? Biden wouldn't have done stupid things like restrict Chinese people from coming while at the same time refuse to even test returning Americans who said they had symptoms. In my book a returning traveler is a higher risk than a local coming here because people who are traveling likely are around more different people than locals who were going about their daily routine.

And he wouldn't have gone the disinformation route. Look at the current situation: Republicans have twice the death rate (after adjusting for demographics, the raw numbers are even worse) than Democrats and I'm sure that's an undercount because so many of them reject the idea. Covid throws clots in various places that can cause sudden death even in patients who aren't that sick. If you don't look for Covid it can be passed off as whatever the clot caused. When you look at the excess deaths they exceed the Covid deaths and when you look at the mortality data you see increases in the things that could have been caused by Covid.

 

[Toni]

I'm telling you, the dark money is going to unalive him asap after the inauguration. They will be in the place of power they've spent decades working toward and will no longer need him. Vance is waaaaaaay easier to control.

Edit: I'm not promoting anything. In fact, I am adamant that no matter what foul creature bullies and buys its way into our highest office, harming that individual is an assault on our country, and an act of war if by foreign actors. It's the office that we all must respect regardless of what old potato peel holds it. I'm just saying, the dark money and maga agents of depravity will no longer need him once he's sworn in. The last time, there wasn't enough of a foothold and I don't think they thought he'd win anyway. But now they're well positioned to enact violent theocracy, and he's a loose cannon.

I disagree slightly. I think he stays in power until 2027 plus a few weeks—so that Vance would be eligible to run for 2 terms. After that?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

""Just realized that this EO outlaws men. At conception, all embryos are female.

Not really true.
Embryos start out undifferentiated, as they develop bipotential gonads and both Wolffian and Müllerian ducts.

It's really not smart to rely on "legal analysts" for biology.

No, the EO got it wrong. The pieces have the potential for going either way, but at conception everyone is biologically female. During pregnancy hormones cause the males to take a different path. In the absence of this change order you get a female. There are a variety of conditions that can cause an XY embryo to fail to take the male path and the result is a normal woman, although she might have fertility issues. Common enough that high level sporting competitions went back to an anatomy check instead of a genetic check to identify men competing as women.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Who was President in 2020?

True, Trump was president when it kicked off early 2020 but then Brandon took over early 2021. And took the credit for the vaccine if iirc

But in any event, I wouldn't blame either Trump or Brandon for Covid. If there is blame to be had it would surely be the folks in Wuhan, Fauci and the rest of the folks that tried to cover it all up.

The only people I see trying to cover it up are the MAGAs. If you don't test it will just fade away....