Why is it only white people that are racist?

[Trausti]

If only her parents had felt the same way.

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Affirmative action is taking actions based on the race of the people involved. Textbook definition of racism. You just think it's good racism.

Self defence is taking actions intended to physically restrain or injure another person. Textbook definition of assault and deprivation of liberty. You just think it's good assault and deprivation of liberty.

And of course, so does everyone else who has thought it through. If the effect of an assault is that a person need to defend himself to avoid further injury, then he should be allowed to do so - although there may be plenty of room for debate about how far he might reasonably go. And reasonable self-defense isn't called assault or deprivation of liberty, because that would be misleading - just as misleading as it would be to refer to Affirmative Action as 'racism'.

If the effect of past racism is that a person needs assistance to achieve what they might have achieved had the racism not occurred, then that assistance should be provided. It may be technically racism, but it's no less justified than is self defence - I can't just walk up to you in the street and punch you, but I am perfectly justified in punching you if you just stabbed me.

So your a hypocrite?

*air ball*

If you're okay with a double standards then you're a hypocrite.

Well, you'd need to demonstrate it is a double standard first.

Is it wrong to treat a person differently based on the immutable characteristic of that person's race?

Wait... I thought we were talking about racism. Look, if you have ants in your pants, I can understand the goalpost shifting, but honestly, it is impossible to talk about subject with people that either have ants in their pants or just like to move goalposts to try to keep their internal logic intact.

Hypocrites always find rationalizations for their double standards, but hypocrites they remain.

A hypocrite would be a person that supports AA, but then wants it annulled in a hiring position that affects them personally... not a person who understands the false equivalence of juxtapositioning racism with affirmative action.

You think discriminating against a person based on an immutable characteristic like race is not racism? That's just baffling. And there is no false equivalence here. If you feel that discrimination based on race is wrong but then advocate for a system that does just that, you're a hypocrite.

 

[Underseer]

I got this email today and it rang true.

HOW VERY TRUE THIS IS!



But where will it end?

Racist - me?

A thought provoking passage written by an Englishman about the current situation in HIS homeland - this is thought provoking and is equally relevant in any other (once) white country.



I have been wondering about why whites are racists, and no other race is?

There are British Africans, British Chinese, British Asian, British Turks, etc, etc, etc.

And then there are just British. You know what I mean, plain ole English people that were born here. You can include the Welsh, the Scottish and the people who live off our shores of Great Britain on tiny islands. Yes, we are all true Brits.

The others that live here call me 'White boy,' 'Cracker,' 'Honkey,' 'Whitey,' 'Caveman' 'White trash' and that's OK...

But if I call you, Nigger, Spade, Towel head, Paki, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook or Chink, you call me a racist.

You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you. So why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?

You have the Muslim Council of Great Britain.

You have Black History Month.

You have swimming pools for Asian women.

You have Islamic banks for Muslims only.

You have year of the dragon day for Chinese people.

If we had a White Pride Day, you would call us racists.

If we had White History Month, we'd be racists.

If we had any organization for only whites to 'advance' OUR lives, we'd be racists.

A white woman could not be in the Miss Black Britain or Miss Asia, but any colour can be in the Miss UK.

If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships, you know we'd be racists.

There are over 200 openly proclaimed Muslim only schools in England. Yet if there were 'White schools only', that would be racist!

In the Bradford riots and Toxteth riots, you believed that you were standing-up for your race and rights. If we stood-up for our race and rights, you would call us racists.

You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.

We fly our flag, we are racists. If we celebrate St George's day we are racists.

You can fly your flag and it’s called diversity. You celebrate your cultures and it’s called multiculturalism.

You rob us, carjack us, and rape our daughters. But, when a white police officer arrests a black gang member or beats up an Asian drug dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist.

I am proud.... but you call me a racist.

Why is it that only whites can be racists??

There is nothing improper about this e-mail. Let's see which of you are proud enough to send it on.

I sadly don't think many will. That's why we have LOST most of OUR RIGHTS in this country. We won't stand up for ourselves!

BEING PROUD TO BE WHITE! It's not a crime, YET... but its getting very close!

It has been estimated that ONLY 5% of those reaching this point in this e-mail, will pass it on.

If it's been discussed before, please delete, or go for it. But I am curious as to what you think.

Did you ever notice that people accuse Muslims in Muslim majority countries of persecuting religious minorities, but never talk about those religious minorities persecuting Muslims in those Muslim majority countries?

Why do you suppose that is?

 

[Underseer]

I'm going to say something controversial.

Muslims in Muslim-majority countries are not being persecuted by religious minorities.

White Americans are not being persecuted by racial minorities.

American Christians are not being persecuted by American homosexuals.

Middle Eastern Muslims are not being persecuted by Middle Eastern homosexuals.

Men are not being persecuted by women.

The Nazis during World War 2 were not being persecuted by Jews (and like you, they did claim that).

White South Africans were not persecuted by Black South Africans during apartheid. And they did claim that.

I know, I know. The Nazis were the real victims of the Holocaust, and the fact that I talk about what the Nazis did to Jews, but never talk about what the Jews did to Nazis proves that I am an anti-Aryan, anti-Christian bigot, and I apologise for that. I hope that some day, you can find it in your heart to forgive me for being such an incredible bigot.

I'm guilty of "white genocide" now. Isn't that the term you people use?

 

[Underseer]

Did I hurt your feewings by saying that? Do you need to go b back to your safe space at Breitbart or Daily Stormer or Stormfront to regain your composure?

I apologise for criticizing what the Nazis did to Jews, but never criticizing what the Jews did to Nazis. I had no idea you were so sensitive.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

You'll be called a racist if you object to racist policies that favor non-whites.

So what? If it's not true, you don't need to care. If it is true, you would be well advised to change your ways. Either way, no harm done.

Why do you care what people call you - unless you fear that they might be right?

You're moving the goalposts. He said you won't be called a racist.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

So who gets to do the punching?

The findings suggested that Caucasian middle school students experience more bullying than African American students generally, and specifically when minorities in school settings. Caucasian students also experienced almost three times the amount of race-based victimization than African American students when school diversity was held constant.

Link

What you don't understand is that the leftists don't care when whitey is the victim.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

A hypocrite would be a person that supports AA, but then wants it annulled in a hiring position that affects them personally... not a person who understands the false equivalence of juxtapositioning racism with affirmative action.

Affirmative action is a subcategory of racism. Doing it with a good heart doesn't make it not racism.

I suppose you also understand that coins are not money.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I'm going to say something controversial.

Muslims in Muslim-majority countries are not being persecuted by religious minorities.

White Americans are not being persecuted by racial minorities.

American Christians are not being persecuted by American homosexuals.

Middle Eastern Muslims are not being persecuted by Middle Eastern homosexuals.

Men are not being persecuted by women.

The Nazis during World War 2 were not being persecuted by Jews (and like you, they did claim that).

White South Africans were not persecuted by Black South Africans during apartheid. And they did claim that.

I know, I know. The Nazis were the real victims of the Holocaust, and the fact that I talk about what the Nazis did to Jews, but never talk about what the Jews did to Nazis proves that I am an anti-Aryan, anti-Christian bigot, and I apologise for that. I hope that some day, you can find it in your heart to forgive me for being such an incredible bigot.

I'm guilty of "white genocide" now. Isn't that the term you people use?

Goalpost alert!

Persecuting requires large scale power and the groups you name lacked that power.

Racism, however, only requires very localized power. It doesn't matter if 99% of bosses are white, if that 1% of black bosses fires underlings because they are white (and, yes, there have been such cases) that's racism.

When a local real estate agent would not show their listings to white people, that's racism.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

A hypocrite would be a person that supports AA, but then wants it annulled in a hiring position that affects them personally... not a person who understands the false equivalence of juxtapositioning racism with affirmative action.

Affirmative action is a subcategory of racism. Doing it with a good heart doesn't make it not racism.

I suppose you also understand that coins are not money.

Yeah, false equivalence. You can keep saying it all you want. Racism is a charged term that is basically understood as policies designed to inhibit opportunities or privileges to someone due solely, as in exclusively, regarding their race.

Affirmative action does not do that.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Affirmative action is a subcategory of racism. Doing it with a good heart doesn't make it not racism.

I suppose you also understand that coins are not money.

Yeah, false equivalence. You can keep saying it all you want. Racism is a charged term that is basically understood as policies designed to inhibit opportunities or privileges to someone due solely, as in exclusively, regarding their race.

Affirmative action does not do that.

Your argument amounts to it not being possible for good to be a subcategory of bad. You aren't addressing the actual issue at all--affirmative action is decisions based upon race and thus is racism.

It has never been a good thing. There was a time when it was the lesser evil, that's all.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Yeah, false equivalence. You can keep saying it all you want. Racism is a charged term that is basically understood as policies designed to inhibit opportunities or privileges to someone due solely, as in exclusively, regarding their race.

Affirmative action does not do that.

Your argument amounts to it not being possible for good to be a subcategory of bad. You aren't addressing the actual issue at all--affirmative action is decisions based upon race and thus is racism.

I have addressed your claim. It is a false equivalence to juxtaposition racism and affirmative action. Jim Crow and Affirmative Action are about as synonymous as dogs and cats. Sure, both are four legged mammals, but they are entirely distinct species.

 

[repoman]

 

[Bomb#20]

If only her parents had felt the same way.

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Affirmative action is taking actions based on the race of the people involved. Textbook definition of racism. You just think it's good racism.

Self defence is taking actions intended to physically restrain or injure another person. Textbook definition of assault and deprivation of liberty. You just think it's good assault and deprivation of liberty.

And of course, so does everyone else who has thought it through. If the effect of an assault is that a person need to defend himself to avoid further injury, then he should be allowed to do so - although there may be plenty of room for debate about how far he might reasonably go. And reasonable self-defense isn't called assault or deprivation of liberty, because that would be misleading - just as misleading as it would be to refer to Affirmative Action as 'racism'.

If the effect of past racism is that a person needs assistance to achieve what they might have achieved had the racism not occurred, then that assistance should be provided. It may be technically racism, but it's no less justified than is self defence - I can't just walk up to you in the street and punch you, but I am perfectly justified in punching you if you just stabbed me.

So your a hypocrite?

*air ball*

If you're okay with a double standards then you're a hypocrite.

Is treating a punch thrown in self defence as different to one thrown without provocation really an example of a double standard in your mind?

Is punching somebody because you got punched first, and the guy you're punching now is the same race as the guy who punched you first, really an example of a punch thrown in self defense, in your mind?

When you offer self defense as an analogy for affirmative action, you are treating the people you advocate discriminating against as collectively guilty. So quibble all you please about whether affirmative action counts as racism; whether it does or not, you are treating random white people as guilty because of earlier acts of racism by different white people, and that's racism all by itself. You're a racist.

 

[Bomb#20]

You'll be called a racist if you object to racist policies that favor non-whites.

So what? If it's not true, you don't need to care. If it is true, you would be well advised to change your ways. Either way, no harm done.

Why do you care what people call you - unless you fear that they might be right?

Back in the 1950's, many Americans called people who criticized segregation "communists". Do you feel the same way about those cases of libelous character assassination? Would you say to a liberal who was called a communist, "So what? If it's not true, you don't need to care. If it is true, you would be well advised to change your ways. Either way, no harm done. Why do you care what people call you - unless you fear that they might be right?". Do you sincerely believe that no harm was done by falsely accusing people of being communists? Do you sincerely believe that people who didn't appreciate being called communists must have been afraid it was true?

 

[Bomb#20]

Affirmative action is a subcategory of racism. Doing it with a good heart doesn't make it not racism.

I suppose you also understand that coins are not money.

Yeah, false equivalence. You can keep saying it all you want. Racism is a charged term that is basically understood as policies designed to inhibit opportunities or privileges to someone due solely, as in exclusively, regarding their race.

Affirmative action does not do that.

On what planet does affirmative action not do precisely that? When some elite university lowers its admission requirements to some student in order to extend enhanced opportunities to him because he's black, what do you think happens? Do you imagine that the goddess of social justice sees the noble diversity effort and, approving, condescends to extend her divine fingers down from Elysium and snaps an additional spot in the university's freshman class into existence? What happens is, the university raises the admission requirements to some other student, in order to inhibit his opportunity to join their freshman class, in order to transfer that opportunity to the black student from that other student, because he's Asian. Going by your own stated definition, that's racism.

 

[Bomb#20]

White people.. if you're not a dick nobody is going to call you a racist.

Just don't be a douche, this isn't hard.

You're a racist.

There, look, somebody called you a racist. But according to your theory, if you're not a dick nobody is going to call you a racist. Therefore, your theory says you're a dick. Do you agree that you're a dick? Can you point out an error in my reasoning? Or will you accept that your beautiful theory has just been slain by an ugly fact?

When you said what you said, you were accusing all the people who have ever been unjustly called racist, wholesale, of being dicks. That's a douchey thing to do. Just don't be a douche, this isn't hard.

 

[bilby]

So what? If it's not true, you don't need to care. If it is true, you would be well advised to change your ways. Either way, no harm done.

Why do you care what people call you - unless you fear that they might be right?

You're moving the goalposts. He said you won't be called a racist.

And I am saying it wouldn't matter if you were.

No goalposts were moved in the making of this point.

 

[rousseau]

White people.. if you're not a dick nobody is going to call you a racist.

Just don't be a douche, this isn't hard.

You're a racist.

There, look, somebody called you a racist. But according to your theory, if you're not a dick nobody is going to call you a racist. Therefore, your theory says you're a dick. Do you agree that you're a dick? Can you point out an error in my reasoning? Or will you accept that your beautiful theory has just been slain by an ugly fact?

When you said what you said, you were accusing all the people who have ever been unjustly called racist, wholesale, of being dicks. That's a douchey thing to do. Just don't be a douche, this isn't hard.

You're the first person who's ever called me a racist, and not surprisingly it's completely unsubstantiated.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Your argument amounts to it not being possible for good to be a subcategory of bad. You aren't addressing the actual issue at all--affirmative action is decisions based upon race and thus is racism.

I have addressed your claim. It is a false equivalence to juxtaposition racism and affirmative action. Jim Crow and Affirmative Action are about as synonymous as dogs and cats. Sure, both are four legged mammals, but they are entirely distinct species.

You're so determined that they can't be related that you're not even addressing my argument. You're just dismissing it as false because you disagree with the conclusion.

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You're moving the goalposts. He said you won't be called a racist.

And I am saying it wouldn't matter if you were.

No goalposts were moved in the making of this point.

"Won't be called a racist" != "Doesn't matter if you're called a racist".

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You're a racist.

There, look, somebody called you a racist. But according to your theory, if you're not a dick nobody is going to call you a racist. Therefore, your theory says you're a dick. Do you agree that you're a dick? Can you point out an error in my reasoning? Or will you accept that your beautiful theory has just been slain by an ugly fact?

When you said what you said, you were accusing all the people who have ever been unjustly called racist, wholesale, of being dicks. That's a douchey thing to do. Just don't be a douche, this isn't hard.

You're the first person who's ever called me a racist, and not surprisingly it's completely unsubstantiated.

Doesn't matter if it's justified or not. You said it wouldn't happen.

 

[Underseer]

Yeah, false equivalence. You can keep saying it all you want. Racism is a charged term that is basically understood as policies designed to inhibit opportunities or privileges to someone due solely, as in exclusively, regarding their race.

Affirmative action does not do that.

Your argument amounts to it not being possible for good to be a subcategory of bad. You aren't addressing the actual issue at all--affirmative action is decisions based upon race and thus is racism.

It has never been a good thing. There was a time when it was the lesser evil, that's all.

Is it OK for me to criticize the Nazis for what they did to the Jews without also criticizing the Jews for what they did to the Nazis?