Why you should vote for Trump

[Loren Pechtel]

Biden is one of our best presidents, in truth, especially in domestic matters.

Surely you jest.
Rampant inflation, porous southern border, made a complete fuck up of the Afghanistan withdrawal and spending money as fast as he can magically produce/print it. Yeah he’s a great President.

Rampant inflation? I see entirely expected inflation as a result of supply chain disruptions, now pretty much resolved.

Porous southern border? The border that your Orange Fool has dictated that nothing be done about it, lest it make Biden look good? That statement by itself is proof that he should never have one iota of political power.

Afghanistan? Biden did what the Orange Fool planned and then fucked up because he wanted to betray those that had been promised escape.

Spending? I see the deficits going up under Republican control and going down under Democrat control.

I see one irrelevancy, two own-goals and one finger pointed the wrong way.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

It is obvious that Iran knows it would be devastated in a war with the US or its allies. That is why the warned us snout their “tat” in response to Israel’s “tit”. Their acquisition of a nuclear weapon does not change that awareness.

The fundamental problem is that Iran wants to sit in it's spider web using proxy armies to destroy. Our invasion of Afghanistan scared them because it made them realize that there was a point beyond which aiding terrorists would bring retaliation. They want to get the bomb to avoid that, so they can sit there pushing out terror without being held accountable. They've given their puppets every weapon system they're capable of operating, why do you think they wouldn't give their puppets the bomb?

My response that you did not read explains why I think so.

I have read your responses--they are basically 100% derails and misdirections.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

A candidate that will get the USA to exit the “Paris climate agreement” will get my vote which means I’m going to have to vote for Trump again.

The Paris climate agreement is an irrelevant piece of paper, whether we are part of it or not makes no difference. It was purely an exercise in pretending to do something while actually continuing business as usual.

 

[pood]

A candidate that will get the USA to exit the “Paris climate agreement” will get my vote which means I’m going to have to vote for Trump again.

The Paris climate agreement is an irrelevant piece of paper, whether we are part of it or not makes no difference. It was purely an exercise in pretending to do something while actually continuing business as usual.

Right, but it’s not just that he wants us to do nothing about an obvious global emergency. He wants us even to stop pretending to do anything about it. Come to think of it, maybe that’s the most honest thing to do — just admit we don’t give a crap about what happens to people after we die, including for many their own children, just as long as in April 2024 the weather is pleasant in Santa Monica. As a recent cartoon depicts, a guy in rags sitting around a fire with some little kids, presumably his own, says, “Yes, we destroyed the world, but for a brief wonderful moment, we increased shareholder value.” That’s more a paraphrase than a direct quote, don’t have access to the cartoon at the moment.

 

[Swammerdami]

Obama might have gone down in history as the man who helped lead Iran out of its darkness . . . until the reigns of U.S. power were turned over to a maniacal traitor who pandered to his voter base of hate-filled bigots.

This is so crucial to the current situation.
Obama put the USA and Iran on a path towards peace and prosperity.

Republican Obstructionists torpedoed it immediately. Not only did they turn an important potential ally into an implacable adversary. They also demonstrated to the world that the USA has little interest in peace and cannot be trusted for longer than a political cycle.

Imagine how different the current situation might be if Iran were a US ally. Instead, they're a Russian ally.
Tom

Obama was taking the route of appeasement.

Iran snatches hostages. ("Criminals"--but without any indication they actually were.) Iran frames it as paying something they claim is owed them, gets a big payoff, releases the hostages and grabs some new ones.

It's not clear whether you are writing about the 2015 deal Obama made, or Biden's more recent deal. It just adds to confusion when you conflate these events.

Contrary to right-wing bullshit, the big "payoff" Iran got under Obama was IRANIAN money that had been sequestered; it was NOT a gift. (I hate it when my bank denies me access to my funds just because they don't approve of the brand of bullets I'm buying!)

The big "wild card" in Obama's deal was whether the U.S. would be able to detect forbidden uranium enrichment. On that topic I give greater weight to the opinions of the CIA and NSA than to the blatherings of Tucker Carlson and Marjorie Taylor Green; but maybe that's just me.

 

[Swammerdami]

To criticize Biden at all, even on matters where he and Trump are in apparent agreement, is to be responsible for the Fall of Western Civilization, apparently. That's why I'm feeling a bit salty here.

Do you ENJOY completely misrepresenting my words?

Trump victory may signal the End of American Democracy. There are various dire threats besides just turning the U.S. government over to a psychotic traitor, and these other threats will be exacerbated with the Party of Treason, Hatred and Stupidity in charge: So it is NOT just hyperbole that has some thinkers worrying about The End of Western Civilization as We Know It.

I write that SOME thinkers fear that Trump victory will spell doom for Western Civilization, and you extrapolate to conclude that you personally can end Civilization!

Do you have a big ego?

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Obama might have gone down in history as the man who helped lead Iran out of its darkness . . . until the reigns of U.S. power were turned over to a maniacal traitor who pandered to his voter base of hate-filled bigots.

This is so crucial to the current situation.
Obama put the USA and Iran on a path towards peace and prosperity.

Republican Obstructionists torpedoed it immediately. Not only did they turn an important potential ally into an implacable adversary. They also demonstrated to the world that the USA has little interest in peace and cannot be trusted for longer than a political cycle.

Imagine how different the current situation might be if Iran were a US ally. Instead, they're a Russian ally.
Tom

Obama was taking the route of appeasement.

Iran snatches hostages. ("Criminals"--but without any indication they actually were.) Iran frames it as paying something they claim is owed them, gets a big payoff, releases the hostages and grabs some new ones.

It's not clear whether you are writing about the 2015 deal Obama made, or Biden's more recent deal. It just adds to confusion when you conflate these events.

Contrary to right-wing bullshit, the big "payoff" Iran got under Obama was IRANIAN money that had been sequestered; it was NOT a gift. (I hate it when my bank denies me access to my funds just because they don't approve of the brand of bullets I'm buying!)

The big "wild card" in Obama's deal was whether the U.S. would be able to detect forbidden uranium enrichment. On that topic I give greater weight to the opinions of the CIA and NSA than to the blatherings of Tucker Carlson and Marjorie Taylor Green; but maybe that's just me.

They claim it's their money. It's just the cycle has repeated multiple times.

 

[TV and credit cards]

McDonald's and Wendy's are concerned about losing business from lower income diners.
Yum! Brands (Taco Bell, KFC, Pizza Hut) miss earnings estimate.
Even middle class darling Starbucks misses on earnings.

Because it all costs too much, Brandon!

I'm voting for heart disease. I'm voting for obesity. I'm voting for high blood pressure. I'm voting for blood sugar spikes.

 

[TSwizzle]

 

[southernhybrid]

Let's see what an actual economist says about the Biden economy, not that any president has all that much control over the economy. Shared article, not behind a pay wall, if anyone is actually interested in bothering to read it. The president doesn't control the Fed but the Fed has been doing a pretty good job of keeping things under control. People are just too stupid to understand it. I don't watch videos. I like to read.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/03/...e_code=1.pE0.7UPi.kTLnlK4_FHSE&smid=url-share

The economic news continues to be pretty good, especially compared with the dire forecasts many were making in late 2022. But you might not have gotten that message if you watch financial TV: It’s hard to spend 24/7 talking about the economy while saying “not much happened this week.” So commentators — and partisan media — seize on every hint of bad news.
And the public is reacting. Google searches for “stagflation” have spiked:
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Credit...Source: Google
So here’s what you need to know: There’s no stag out there, and not much flation.
True, G.D.P. growth came in a bit low in the first quarter. But just about every serious analyst regarded this as statistical noise. More important, as we saw in Friday morning’s employment report, the U.S. economy is continuing its remarkable stretch of good job numbers and low unemployment:
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Inflation has clearly come way down without a recession, defying the pessimists; I can’t help mentioning that Janet Yellen, the Treasury secretary, got a little snippy about Larry Summers the other day. But are we still on a glide path back to the Fed’s target of 2 percent inflation, or are we stalling out around 3 percent?


The Fed seems to think that we’re still on that glide path, but it left interest rates unchanged this week, and its statement was carefully hedged, noting that “there has been a lack of further progress” toward 2 percent.

An interesting question is what the Fed will do if inflation remains stalled modestly above its target. After all, 2 percent is a rather arbitrary number (blame New Zealand!). Is it worth risking a recession to squeeze out those last few decimal points?

But that’s for the future. For now, you need to hold two thoughts in mind. First, we’ve had some disappointing inflation data lately. But despite this, we’re in a far better place than most analysts even thought possible not long ago.

 

[ZiprHead]

Gee, why would there be inflation?

FTC Order Bans Former Pioneer CEO from Exxon Board Seat in Exxon-Pioneer Deal

The Federal Trade Commission took action to resolve antitrust concerns surrounding Exxon Mobil Corporation’s (Exxon) $64.5 billion acquisition of oil producer Pioneer Natural Resources by approving

www.ftc.gov

The FTC alleges in a complaint that Sheffield has, through public statements and private communications, attempted to collude with the representatives of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) and a related cartel of other oil-producing countries known as OPEC+ to reduce output of oil and gas, which would result in Americans paying higher prices at the pump, to inflate profits for his company.

“Mr. Sheffield’s past conduct makes it crystal clear that he should be nowhere near Exxon’s boardroom. American consumers shouldn’t pay unfair prices at the pump simply to pad a corporate executive’s pocketbook,” said Kyle Mach, Deputy Director of the FTC’s Bureau of Competition. “The FTC will remain vigilant in its enforcement efforts to protect competition in these vital markets.”

 

[TSwizzle]

Let's see what an actual economist says about the Biden economy,

Economists can waffle all they want about Bidenomics but when your grocery bill is 60% more than it was a few years ago and gas is nearly $5 a gallon, well somebody has to take the fall for it.

 

[TomC]

Let's see what an actual economist says about the Biden economy,

Economists can waffle all they want about Bidenomics but when your grocery bill is 60% more than it was a few years ago and gas is nearly $5 a gallon, well somebody has to take the fall for it.

60% higher grocery bill?

By "a few years ago", do you mean the Reagan administration? Maybe you are richer now and buy more expensive stuff?
Maybe you don't realize that getting rid of the cheap labor that picks vegetables and packages meats will raise prices for food?
Bidenomics?
What the frick is that except Biden trying to deal with the economic system he was elected to deal with?
Tom

 

[GenesisNemesis]

Let's see what an actual economist says about the Biden economy,

Economists can waffle all they want about Bidenomics but when your grocery bill is 60% more than it was a few years ago and gas is nearly $5 a gallon, well somebody has to take the fall for it.

Show that this is specifically Biden's fault. Show us the math. Because seems like there are many plausible explanations besides "BIDEN DID IIIIIT" (like I dunno, the fucking CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC), that you can easily Google and "do your own research" about as people like you often like to say.

 

[TSwizzle]

Let's see what an actual economist says about the Biden economy,

Economists can waffle all they want about Bidenomics but when your grocery bill is 60% more than it was a few years ago and gas is nearly $5 a gallon, well somebody has to take the fall for it.

Show that this is specifically Biden's fault. Show us the math.

How could it not be Biden’s fault? He said it was temporary back in 2021. It’s not temporary, it’s worse.

 

[GenesisNemesis]

Let's see what an actual economist says about the Biden economy,

Economists can waffle all they want about Bidenomics but when your grocery bill is 60% more than it was a few years ago and gas is nearly $5 a gallon, well somebody has to take the fall for it.

Show that this is specifically Biden's fault. Show us the math.

How could it not be Biden’s fault? He said it was temporary back in 2021. It’s not temporary, it’s worse.

So because he was wrong about it being temporary, it's therefore his fault? Logic does not compute. Try again.

 

[TSwizzle]

Let's see what an actual economist says about the Biden economy,

Economists can waffle all they want about Bidenomics but when your grocery bill is 60% more than it was a few years ago and gas is nearly $5 a gallon, well somebody has to take the fall for it.

Show that this is specifically Biden's fault. Show us the math.

How could it not be Biden’s fault? He said it was temporary back in 2021. It’s not temporary, it’s worse.

So because he was wrong about it being temporary, it's therefore his fault? Logic does not compute. Try again.

He’s wrong about most things.

 

[TomC]

How could it not be Biden’s fault?

Because Trump did his level best to get rid of the cheap employees who kept food prices down.

So what we are dealing with is trumponomics.
Also Trump's disastrous handling of the pandemic, yet another reason for price increases.
Tom

 

[GenesisNemesis]

You heard it here first folks. As long as someone is wrong about an issue that makes the issue their fault.

 

[Shadowy Man]

You heard it here first folks. As long as someone is wrong about an issue that makes the issue their fault.

I think you’re wrong about that.