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Youtube Fear Experiment

It's simply something to tell others and get a response. Like the Youtube comments section, people trying to elicit emotional responses by using bad words and racial epithets.

Another1 doesn't seem to understand that we humans are always trying to get responses from each other, always manipulating each other in some way. Most of the time, we're not fully aware of how we are manipulating others or how we are being manipulated. This is how complex, intelligent, social animals experiencing life as individuals operate. Influencing each other through language and emotion is the basis of human behavior, for fuck's sake.

In a way, it's really to Another1's credit that he actually sees something of that nebula of influence - most people are oblivious - and for those of us who put a lot of attention on such topics and questions can see just how mindless and monstrous this ever changing and powerful virtual entity can be, and it moves through the entirety of human experience.

It's just that no one is in charge. It's not an entity with consciousness or intention, but acts upon us as if it were. We call it "culture" and stuff like that. We tend to blame it on specific people and groups, and sometimes that's true and worthwhile to hold them accountable, but the attitudes and behaviors of a collective society are not driven by a singular conscious mind. There's no planning, or intention, or expectations.

Problems arise for you when you believe the world should change and you have no responsibility in it, and that billions of people should operate differently so that you can be free of manipulation and never have to face yourself or have to question your established paranoid dream.

However, for many of us, our own biology drives how we think. We know there are disorders and illnesses that are caused or exacerbated by physiology - hormones and such, you know, all those weird brain chemicals that basically run our lives - and when that shit goes awry, the effort to gain any understanding of our existence can be more like drowning than thinking.

I don't know if this is the case with you, Another1, but something to consider if you are inclined.
 
Malintent, I don't get the driving on dangerous roads analogy. Youtube is a dangerous vehicle because it holds the destiny of children.
No, in my analogy Youtube is the road. The cars on the road are the poor, corruptible children.
Uploading a video is quite literally putting their lives on the altar.
It might just be me, but when you use the word "literally" to mean "figuratively", one can no longer have a sense that you are communicating your ideas accurately. I LITERALLY cannot be sure I understand what you might intend to mean.
They're passionate enough to kill over it. The self esteem of these kids depends on numbers flashing inside a box. That is a problem.
Kids value the oddest things, don't they... baseball cards, moon pies, friendings, and now (of all horrible things) VIEWS!
"look at me" "look at me" "look at meeeeeeee"! sound familiar?
The lack of censorship on Youtube is ridiculous. Nobody intervenes unless a kid violates copyrights or commits murder.
.. or engages in hate speech, or incites others to commit crime, or promotes the use of drugs, or uploads overt pornography, or has interactive folks who monitor the whereabouts and activities of their children... like, you know, fucking PARENTS. I'm not going to be your child's parent. you deal with your own PoS kid.
Otherwise it is wide open road. Adults were taught that censorship is bad, back when meaningless profanities were such a concern.
.. and when governments were ruled by Kings and Queens whose word was simply the truth, and journalism and freedom of speech didn't exist, and books were burned by those opposing the consequences of knowledge...
Now that there is need for swift and unforgiving censorship of all things internet, it is too late. I'm not getting into what I think about all that unless you want to hear it.
No, I don't really want to live Farenheight 451, thank you very much, Pol Pot.
My method is in question again so I'll let you know I took CIS and A+ classes when I was younger. I assure you that I do know how to velcro my shoes and ingest food without aid. My I'Q is average and I use hallucinogens responsibly. No reason to suspect I'm corrupting our data.

Of course there is reason to suspect you are corrupting your data... you only seem to get what you are looking for, while EVERYONE else is seeing completely different results... see belwo...
How:
I search the words and click "more suggestions". Then follow the boxes with the most red color in them. Just a baby touching little red squares in the mothering glow of a laptop.

I use Ubuntu and Firefox or Windows 7 Ultimate and Chrome. Tried using Tor as well

>No Youtube account

>No youtube settings of course (because a baby wouldn't know how to adjust those)

>No cookies

>No pancakes

>No nothing

For fun, try teen inquiry like "how to humiliate a bully". Then go 50 clicks. You'll end up somewhere really, really dark. The average kid 0-17 years old uses Youtube 5 hours a day. I'm not sure how many clicks that adds up to. Fair speculation says at least 30. The real number is probably in the hundreds, but we're keeping it scientifical and we can't jump to conclusions.

here you post an extra bit of detail about your hoax, err "experiment", whereby you admit you are not listing hits 1 - 10 - what 100% of users utilize, but hits 50 - 60 (clicking "more suggestions"), which exactly no one does... and for the reasons you are stating the results are bad (irrelevant results with low positive feedback)

and to revisit your A+ class comment... LOL!
just.. LOL.

I am a CISSP with 40 years experience with computers, the past 30 working in gigantic IT enterprises, and the past 10 specifically in computer security.

if we were to compare qualifications with analogy, I am a lawyer, and you once spoke to a cop when you were 12.
 
Speaking of hive minds: http://unu.ai/?gclid=CPjWtarCzc0CFYk9gQodLHoISQ

UNU is hive mind software. It has been very reliable at predicting things even when no individual in the group predicted as well. The horse race is a great example. The UNU swarm intelligence correctly predicted the winners of the first four places in a horse race when no one in the group came close, even experts.

Pretty amazing how all the responses of the individuals in a group contribute to the end result, but none of the individual responses matched the group's final response. Almost like a separate entity made the prediction, at least it might appear so to our brains that instinctively read others' intentions, a wicked powerful survival tool.

So it's easy to see how, to someone whose instinct to try to gauge the intentions of others who might be manipulating him is very sensitive, youtube must seem pretty diabolical.
 
Pretty amazing how all the responses of the individuals in a group contribute to the end result, but none of the individual responses matched the group's final response.
Amzing but not unprecedented. Not if you've worked on a lot of committees... Quite often a committee's resolutions work though every single motherfucker ON the committee is an idiot.
 
I should have known Shayamalan was an Indian name. I know he directs but I pictured his name spelled differently. The way the word looks on a screen makes it seem a little like a category for shady people. Like "those darn Shyamalans lie about the apocalypse and nutrition", or whatever. Shayamalanian tribes of assholes do roam the internet smoking pot and repeating each other's ideas, with a tiny bit of their own paranoid logic laced in before passing it off again.

I haven't read about that software yet but how timelines show rumors spread over long periods, that would be something I'd look for.

I have an opinion. Not a thesis. It isn't stated as intentionally amplified paranoid logic to make you understand faster. It is simple: Marketing studies have no place in social media, period. My reasons for thinking that are obvious. The fact that I can't graph it out doesn't make it any less real. I'm becoming more concerned every day, but not because of the actual problem. My recent concern is in how people react to very basic questions, like "who is watching" and "why is that on my screen". It almost feels like people are acting superstitious. Overly suspicious at any rate. Then I'm accused of being superstitious and it becomes ironic. It's all good, just pointing out the obvious.

It doesn't make sense man. It doesn't make sense that young kids have such easy access to so many unrelated videos that can easily be used to manipulate them. The way the manipulation is done may as well be called by it's actual name, too. Doing that destroys any credibility so scratch that off.

Kids are selling themselves in the first place, right? Ultimately that is what they use their accounts for. They study how to do it among themselves, in ways I don't have time to understand. Then people analyze what the kids do. somewhere in that mess, I guarantee you there is a computer server shaped like a 50's sci fi robot, and I know it is thinking very bad things. In come influences from many directions. People who redefine the word bad. They have their say in how content is "suggested". Money is a one dimensional concept to those people. The only possible way to psychologically react to their very existence is to laugh. That is how bad. Boo.

Ignorant people who use letters to dub generations say generation z. Those are the victims here. My generation and older can't compute incomprehensible evil as efficiently as the youth. So think about it and wonder what they see. Using Twitter is a good way to do it. Go look at what they see on Twitter. I'll give you a chance to do that and get back to you.
 
I agree about marketing and social media. It's everything else you've claimed in this thread that some of us take issue with.
 
Right. We'll pin it down soon enough. I didn't notice you posted twice. There is data coming in from 3 posters now. I'm trying to concentrate on it. I think your post something to consider was really thoughtful. It isn't easy to get a psychological read on someone inside the internet. If I applied that psychology to someone saying these things.. yeah. I'd have a few things to say.
 
I should have known Shayamalan was an Indian name. I know he directs but I pictured his name spelled differently.
It IS spelled differently than you just typed it...

And i don't know about your setup, but quite literally the first fifty fucking returns on google for "Shyamalan" all concern M. Night or his movies.
It is simple: Marketing studies have no place in social media, period.
Um, Wrong.

See? I can boldly assert things, too.
My recent concern is in how people react to very basic questions, like "who is watching" and "why is that on my screen".
How about how 'people' react to questions like 'Do you have any objective evidence to support your wild-assed speculation?'
Or to 'Why would you think any child used the internet that way?'

It almost feels like people are acting superstitious.
Dude, YOU are the one attributing the things that ONLY YOU SEE to nonhuman agency with evil intentions. No one else.
 
Type "Fear leads to" in Google and peep the word that auto completes. The word is Youtube,
No.
I get 'anger,' and 'anxiety' and 'anger Trump.'

And a whole lot of websites that quote or discuss Yoda quotes.

All in all, it's looking to be a personal problem, a1.

I get:

anger
anger bible
anger empire strikes back

:D
 
Why would I think a child uses the internet that way? Well I was pretty much a child on myspace. I started noticing things a long time ago. I watched for 13 years actually. You really have to start watching and thinking about it man. I'm a talker and not a writer so you're never going to understand this way. I have to start defending my own perception around every turn, as if it isn't my reality you're typing into. You say it is a personal problem as if it could be anything other than that. Bilby thank you for mentioning the bible and star wars. I forgot to include that but no need now because it has been done already.

Malintent thank you for the passionate and assertive response. That is what we need. Your idea of what and who I am is always on my mind. It is literally very important to me. The amazing work you do with computers, too. Invaluable to the cause. I understand that you have to go on what you read. Totally understandable. I did laugh at your impression of the person you're to believe I am. This is literally the last time though. I can't continue that cycle with you. It gets us nowhere. Like literally, my life is not actually anyone's business. I'm not sure why you laugh at A+ vocational classes. They show you a piece of ram, then you sign your name. That is how you get certified. I'm not going to ramble how credentials mean nothing if you're right about something, and on the internet they mean literally nothing at all. I do respect your accomplishments but there is no need to do the -look at me thing to back them up. I think you're better than that and you should too.

Sometimes you have to enhance things to make a point, Keith. Maybe that is the problem. I'm being taken literally in everything I say. Is that it? If you catch a 5 inch fish, it doesn't even exist until you say it is a foot. That is the saying right. That is just how people are, and I can't change that. I just roll with it and change my explanation of reality accordingly. I'm in need of a translator apparently.

What do you imagine social media will be like in 20 years? Answer without the word you, please.
 
Yeah I read the thread about auto completes. Results actually change between Pittsburgh and Morgantown, which are an hour apart. Guess I have that marked down for later. Forgot to mention that when I had the chance.
Keith I think I was 25 when I entered social media, so yes I was far from a child. Consider it a metaphor maybe. idk
 
Metaphors compare similar things.

I do not believe your results are similar to those of children surfing the net. I don't think your observations reflect threats to children. Thus your alarmism is not alarming me.
 
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