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Right Wing Terrorism

As it is now, the right (in this case right wing media) doesn't care that he's Muslim because of the whole toe the line thing.
Or maybe because he is just a nominal Muslim to begin with.

If anyone really gave a crap about the influence Islam may have over America I'd think Saudi Arabia would be on their priority list. Ya know, the ole oil/military exchange we've got going with that MUSLIM COUNTRY whom happens to have significant influence on our foreign policy.
Saudi Arabia is an ally and a partner. They do not have any influence as far as culture or values. They have a lot of oil and they are a good market for Western products, including weapons. That's it. A business partnership.
It is telling I think that this visceral hatred by the Western far left against Saudi Arabia only started after MbS started rapprochement with Israel. Interesting, not?
 
Yeah, those evil bastards. It's a good thing the USA can stand as a bastion of freedom that has never attempted to do such a vile thing.
Well, apart from that time in the 1920s when the Muslims took over the US government. Apparently.
Textbook whataboutism. Esp. when the "whatabout" you bring up was literally a century ago.
We are talking about today. Countries that ban alcohol are almost all Muslim:
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And they want to do the same in the West:
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And plenty of majority Muslims polities have banned alcohol.
Yeah, those evil bastards. It's a good thing the USA can stand as a bastion of freedom that has never attempted to do such a vile thing.

Well, apart from that time in the 1920s when the Muslims took over the US government. Apparently.
I believe there are still some dry local polities in the USA.
There are quite a few, especially in the southeast (Kentucky, Tennessee area).
 
As it is now, the right (in this case right wing media) doesn't care that he's Muslim because of the whole toe the line thing.
Or maybe because he is just a nominal Muslim to begin with.

If anyone really gave a crap about the influence Islam may have over America I'd think Saudi Arabia would be on their priority list. Ya know, the ole oil/military exchange we've got going with that MUSLIM COUNTRY whom happens to have significant influence on our foreign policy.
Saudi Arabia is an ally and a partner. They do not have any influence as far as culture or values. They have a lot of oil and they are a good market for Western products, including weapons. That's it. A business partnership.
It is telling I think that this visceral hatred by the Western far left against Saudi Arabia only started after MbS started rapprochement with Israel. Interesting, not?

r/Whoosh

I'm saying that the Muslim = Terrorist crap coming from the right is a load of rubbish to get their base to voting booths. As for Saudi Arabia having no influence on American Culture and values you may want to check in with the rest of the Arab world on that one. If you really believe that the USA is not a cosigner on the things Saudi Arabia (and others we support at various moments in history) does with our partnership you'll just be another stupid American shocked when airplanes crash into buildings.

Edit: In case you can't make the connection; or foreign policy, culture and values are inseparable.
 
Derec, I challenge you to find a positive story involving a Muslim immigrant.
 
The “takeover” you fear is a bogeyman of your own making.
It is not. And you are talking out of both sides of your mind. In another posts you acknowledged it is happening when you wrote "change is inevitable", but now you deny it is happening at all? BS.
Muslims are already a majority in parts of London, Paris, Berlin etc. By the end of the century they will be majorities city-wide unless Europe wakes up to the threat.
Since “change” is not synonymous with “ takeover” or “threat”, your response is an example of senseless bigotry,
Derec said:
I am not condoning his actions, but I understand him feeling helpless when Macron et al are doing nothing in the face of the impending Islamic takeover. They are deporting illegals in only homeopathic numbers, while millions are pouring in through the porous borders.
I get it, You can understand why a bigot feels helpless amidst delusional fear of brown people but you cannot understand why brown people get upset when the police with a long racist history in Minneapolis get upset when a police officer callously kills a harmless civilian.
 
Damn, Derec is impressed with himself, as if the ability to drown this thread in ongoing lists of heinous acts by supposed “libs” somehow negates the FACT that the major threat to this country and its citizens is RIGHT WING TERRORISM.
Hell, he may have listed acts that harmed almost as many people as any one of dozens of right wing terror attacks.
 
Since “change” is not synonymous with “ takeover” or “threat”, your response is an example of senseless bigotry,
I dunno. People import their culture and practices. Would you want to live in Pakistan?
 
People import their culture and practices.
That’s what makes America great.
you want to live in Pakistan?
No. I like living in a diverse country. You know, with Pakis, Mexicans, Norwedish, Africans, Thai, and even some Italians.
Right. Those are Western/European values. Which will go away if the people you import don't share them. See Native Americans. Also, diversity causes lower social trust. Diversity is not strength, despite what Dan Quayle might have said.
 
Okay Ollie you’ve made it clear that you hate diversity and would prefer a racially/culturally homogenous society. I would surmise that you want everyone you encounter to share your (“western European”?) values, your culture, your language… basically a bunch of Ollie clones.
Sounds terrible to me. If those are the so-called Western European values you cherish, I can only say they never existed and never will. The rest of us can be grateful to not be living in your fantasy.

I do agree that native Americans have been shafted by the “diversity” forced upon them by Europeans though.
 
I do agree that native Americans have been shafted by the “diversity” forced upon them by Europeans though.
Are they "victims" of their own freely chosen pro-diversity policies? Or imposed policies of racial segregation and capitalist exploitation?

If the latter, more xenophobia is unlikely to help anyone's situation.
 
Are they "victims" of their own freely chosen pro-diversity policies? Or imposed policies of racial segregation and capitalist exploitation?
They are victims of Euros’ superior firepower, period. Without that, the segregation and exploitation could not have followed.
more xenophobia is unlikely to help anyone's situation.
It never does, contrary to Ollie and his ilk’s undying belief in fearing “others”.
 
They are victims of Euros’ superior firepower, period. Without that, the segregation and exploitation could not have followed
I do not agree with your characterization of this history, but's irrelevant unless one can establish that pro-diversity policies were the source of danger.
 
Meh. It's the same thing with all the various bigotries. They are crapping themselves at the possibility that one day their victims might be strong enough to treat the bigots as badly as they've been treated.

When white men were dominant, we were senselessly cruel to everyone else, to the point of almost wiping some groups out of existence, and enslaving the remainder. It's therefore an existential threat to white men for anyone else to have power.

Of course, that's projection; And even if it were not a paranoid fantasy fuelled by guilt, there's essentially zero chance that any of these oppressed groups will ever achieve that level of power over white men in the west.

But the slightest suggestion that white men should, could, or even might, cede even the tiniest bit of power, is starkly and utterly pants-wettingly terrifying to these numpties. Frankly, it's ruining their lives, which would be hilarious, if they weren't using the very power they fear that they are losing to also ruin the lives of everyone else.

Their worldview is cartoonish, as evidenced by their need to use pictures, movie clips, and the tabloid press as "support" - reason and thought need not apply, because their position is 100% pure emotion; And that emotion is fear.

They honestly believe that our lack of fear of immigrants, women, homosexuals, drag performers, etc., etc., is due to our lack of understanding of the threat these people, and the changes they bring to our society, pose. But it's the other way around - their fear stands as a solid and impenetrable bulwark against their ever understanding that a stranger is no more threatening to them if he is a boring middle class white man, than he is if he isn't.

Boring middle class men from the dominant ethnic group, whose primary focus is fear of the "other", brought us the subjugation of Europe and South East Asia by the most vile collection of cunts in history. And these folks were almost as popular in the USA, England, France and Russia, immediately before they plunged the world into war, as they were in Germany, Japan and Italy.

Bigotry is the existential threat that actually exists, actually committed genocide, actually imposed totalitarianism and dictatorship, and actually required a real, global, total war to liberate humanity from their depredations. And then as now, bigots are convinced by their abject terror that the arrow of threat is reversed, and that the only thing that can save them from totalitarianism is totalitarianism itself.

Of course, it's not a problem for the bigots, because it's only going to affect other people. I suspect Martin Niemöller could explain the flaw in that reasoning, but they're far too busy working themselves into a tizzy over pictures of people unlike themselves, to listen to the likes of him.
 
They are victims of Euros’ superior firepower, period. Without that, the segregation and exploitation could not have followed
I do not agree with your characterization of this history, but's irrelevant unless one can establish that pro-diversity policies were the source of danger.i
i agree that was sloppy and inaccurate. Disease had more to do with it.
 
10 yr view. Suspicious?
Suspicious to talk about terrorism and start your chart shortly after the biggest terrorist attack in a century.
Also suspicious to exclude Islamic terrorism which is, on a per capita basis, by far most common.
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Source: Islamist terrorist attacks in the world 1979-2019

Source your own data and get back to me.
Why? It is your graph. You source it.
Note: World. Not Western World. Most terrorist attacks are Islamic, but most of them are aimed at Muslim countries.
 
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