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Biden still 1000x better than Trump or any other GOP, people are saying

barbos said:
What would be the point? You never learn, admit or acknowledge anything. You simply go back to repeating lies you are being fed from your lying media. All your media and politicians are liars, every single one of them.
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I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of irony meters suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced.
 
TomC said:
Elixir said:
Toni said:
Elixir said:
TomC said:
Trump is still weakening and dividing USA.
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I disagree. This Hitler/tough guy act is probably uniting the Country against him like never before.
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Not as much as one would hope.
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Right, one would hope the sentiment would be unanimous and unequivocal.
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But it isn't.
Because the Teaparty is better at lying and corruption than anyone else.
Tom
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Practice makes perfect I s’pose. 🙄
 
barbos said:
Toni said:
Well, Russia pulling Trump’s strings and finding him ( and various legislators and candidates) is a pretty huge black mark against Russia. A bigger black mark against Trump and other of Putin’s puppets, to be sure. I don’t think any one would argue differently. Of course, so was Russia invading Ukraine.
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Complete and utter BS. RussiaGate was a complete fabrication by clintonites. Russia has absolutely no connection to Trump.
RussiaGate is utter garbage, we now know that for a fact.
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Eric Trump tells author James Dodson, "We don't rely on American banks [...] We have all the funding we need out of Russia", and says, "We go there all the time".
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 Business projects of Donald Trump in Russia
 
ZiprHead said:
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Business projects of Donald Trump in Russia
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Wait, WUT? Are you accusing babs of ... uh ... perfidiousness? Mendacity? Dissimulating?

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Here's one for Barb. Apparently some of Putie's old KGB agents think he's senile, yet Barb thinks it's Biden that's senile. Wrong guy, buddy.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/vladimir-putin-has-dementia-being-26852731






Vladimir Putin is likely suffering from early stage dementia while he is being driven insane by paranoia and fear over traitors, a former KGB agent has said.

The 69-year-old leader’s health remains under intense scrutiny amid swirling rumours that he's critically unwell.
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bilby said:
barbos said:
What would be the point? You never learn, admit or acknowledge anything. You simply go back to repeating lies you are being fed from your lying media. All your media and politicians are liars, every single one of them.
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I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of irony meters suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced.
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They were likely hit by an ATACMS missile launched by a US made HIMARS. Effective at silencing a wide variety of targets, including meters. HIMARS stands for High Mobility Artillery Rocket System. It has been in service since 2010. Fun fact: The Russian defense industry, keen to always keep up with the decadent West, quickly debuted a rival to the HIMARS. And by "quickly," I mean it was revealed at an arms show in Abu Dhabi in February of 2023. A year after the long weekend that was supposed to be the Ukraine War, and almost a year since the US started sending HIMARS (albeit old ones we don't use anymore) to Ukraine.
 
barbos said:
Patooka said:
map showing which parts of Russia the US has attacked.
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Krym, Eastern Ukraine and in general all Ukraine (except Galicia) which I consider part of Russia.
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You considering it part of Russia doesn't make it so.

barbos said:
US funds galician separatists/terrorists which managed to take control of Kiev.
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There was no funding until you took part of Ukraine in 2014.

barbos said:
US installed terrorist regime in Kiev also attacked Moscow, in case you did not know.
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We didn't install anything. It's just your puppet got uninstalled.
barbos said:
It's really the usual M.O. of neocons, finding the worst of the worst terrorists, call them moderate opposition/freedom fighters and arm them.
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In most cases it's very easy to tell terrorists from freedom fighters--look at their targets.
 
Loren Pechtel said:
There was no funding until you took part of Ukraine in 2014.
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According to Nuland there was. In fact, US has been funding everybody, including ..... Russia, that is US is funding russian "opposition" and general unrest.

Loren Pechtel said:
You considering it part of Russia doesn't make it so.
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Sorry man, they voted to leave. And even if they did not, it would still be de-facto Russia.
Otherwise bye-bye Texas, cause it's Mexico :)
Loren Pechtel said:
We didn't install anything. It's just your puppet got uninstalled.
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First, you did. Secondly even if you did not it would not matter. Russian security trumps Ukraine desire to do shit.
US will occupy Mexico in no time if maidan happens there.
Loren Pechtel said:
In most cases it's very easy to tell terrorists from freedom fighters--look at their targets.
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If it's so easy why all your freedom fighters turned out to be terrorists?
 
TomC said:
I'm not sure why you keep changing the subject to Clinton, except
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It is not me. it's you who keeps bringing up RussiaGate.
She is a stupid and immoral cunt, like pretty much everyone else in US politics.


Trump is a stupid and immoral cunt too. The only difference is that he appeared to be in opposition to the system.
You need a full system change, where MIC and oligarchs in general do not select politicians and presidents.
People should select them, at least have a chance to select them. Ironically, Musk could be the one, at least on the surface he projects an image of someone who cares about things a leader should care.
Scum like Clinton, Biden, his buddy Graham, only care how to tends to the needs of their big donors.
 
barbos said:
Loren Pechtel said:
There was no funding until you took part of Ukraine in 2014.
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According to Nuland there was. In fact, US has been funding everybody, including ..... Russia, that is US is funding russian "opposition" and general unrest.
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You make it sound like the US is operating some clandestine service within the borders of your country.
Really now. You're just being paranoid.
 
TV and credit cards said:
barbos said:
Loren Pechtel said:
There was no funding until you took part of Ukraine in 2014.
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According to Nuland there was. In fact, US has been funding everybody, including ..... Russia, that is US is funding russian "opposition" and general unrest.
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You make it sound like the US is operating some clandestine service within the borders of your country.
Really now. You're just being paranoid.
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What do you mean by "sound" and "my country"?
We know for the fact that US is operating clandestine services in every important country on this planet.
Hell, Russia does the same, not to the same degree and with different goals but certainly there are russian spies in the US. Whole bunch of them in fact.
 
barbos said:
TomC said:
I'm not sure why you keep changing the subject to Clinton, except
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It is not me. it's you who keeps bringing up RussiaGate.
She is a stupid and immoral cunt, like pretty much everyone else in US politics.
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Hillary isn't stupid. Unprincipled and opportunistic yes, but not stupid. Not remotely stupid.
barbos said:
Trump is a stupid and immoral cunt too. The only difference is that he appeared to be in opposition to the system.
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Wha? Trump had no vision at all, other than Trump. All he does is talk about himself. Stupid? In spades! Jebus, he signed off on an "agreement" with North Korea over disarming the Korean Peninsula... having no bloody clue what that meant.
barbos said:
You need a full system change, where MIC and oligarchs in general do not select politicians and presidents.
People should select them, at least have a chance to select them. Ironically, Musk could be the one, at least on the surface he projects an image of someone who cares about things a leader should care.
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Jebus! Musk is a Bond style villain whose main super power is to get people to overwork themselves to the point of burnout... replace them and repeat. He looks like a man with vision, but in reality, he isn't a quarter as smart as he thinks he is or a tenth as smart as his cult followers think he is.
barbos said:
Scum like Clinton, Biden, his buddy Graham, only care how to tends to the needs of their big donors.
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Yes, and Russian policies have nothing to do with the oligarchy.
 
TV and credit cards said:
You make it sound like the US is operating some clandestine service within the borders of your country.
Really now. You're just being paranoid.
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I'm with barbos on this one. I cannot believe the U.S. stopped doing that.

That's part of what made Trump such a disaster. His tendency to blab about stuff he knew almost nothing about, but the intelligence agencies who were listening did. They could easily figure out all kinds of things damaging to U.S. security. Trump was a very useful idiot.
Tom
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
Russian policies have nothing to do with the oligarchy.
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There is a difference. In America, the oligarchs control the President, who is constrained legally by the constitution, and practically by oligarchs holding the purse strings. In Russia, the oligarchs are beholden to the dictator, or they fall out of windows. That is as it should be, according to Putler, and as it will be in Murka if Cheato can get himself re-installed.
 
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