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Disney's Frozen is coming for your manhood

Wait, wait, wait...

So, how many Marvel movies have we had so far? And how many DC movies?

And how many of them have had women as the main character so far? Black Widow doesn't count.

And you're telling me that, according to Fox News, we guys can't take *one* movie with women as the leads?

Seriously? Just bring them to see Captain America, or Man of Steel, or Gaurdians of the Galaxy, or...whatever.

(And as an aside, as a black guy with a learning disability, I find the notion that Theo was the stupid kid on the Cosby Show extremely irritating...but that's a different topic.)
 
Wait, wait, wait...

So, how many Marvel movies have we had so far? And how many DC movies?

And how many of them have had women as the main character so far? Black Widow doesn't count.

And you're telling me that, according to Fox News, we guys can't take *one* movie with women as the leads?

Seriously? Just bring them to see Captain America, or Man of Steel, or Gaurdians of the Galaxy, or...whatever.

(And as an aside, as a black guy with a learning disability, I find the notion that Theo was the stupid kid on the Cosby Show extremely irritating...but that's a different topic.)

I thought you were purple? :) And I just looked it up, and Theo's dyslexia wasn't introduced until midway through season 6. So presumably he would have been portrayed as "dumb kid" until then.

And speaking of Marvel, do you remember the shitstorm over this?
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I remember that there wasn't a shitstorm over the exact same shot of Spiderman.
 
I think my manhood's been frozen since about ten years after I got married. :crushed:
 
Wait, wait, wait...

So, how many Marvel movies have we had so far? And how many DC movies?

And how many of them have had women as the main character so far? Black Widow doesn't count.

And you're telling me that, according to Fox News, we guys can't take *one* movie with women as the leads?

Seriously? Just bring them to see Captain America, or Man of Steel, or Gaurdians of the Galaxy, or...whatever.

(And as an aside, as a black guy with a learning disability, I find the notion that Theo was the stupid kid on the Cosby Show extremely irritating...but that's a different topic.)

I thought you were purple? :) And I just looked it up, and Theo's dyslexia wasn't introduced until midway through season 6. So presumably he would have been portrayed as "dumb kid" until then.

He wasn't.

Theo was portrayed as an ordinary teenager. The jokes about his poor decisions weren't about him being stupid, they were based on him being inexperienced and thoughtless. For example, the joke about how he didn't scrape the food off the plates before loading them into the dishwasher because he was in a hurry to meet up with his friends. Theo tells his Dad not to worry, the leftover food will all go down the drain. His father makes a joke about Theo having the choice of watching the chicken bones not going down the drain from inside the machine, or taking his Dad's word for it that chicken bones do not belong inside a dishwasher, and Theo must get them out of the dishwasher before he can leave. It's funny because that's the sort of thing all teenagers do, not just Theo.

And speaking of Marvel, do you remember the shitstorm over this?

No, I must have missed that trip to comic-pr0n. But I did get a chuckle when I saw this.
 
Saw it today because it was on my list and i didn't want to talk about it uninformed. It was pretty good and not negative about men at all. The only negative thing I saw was her wanting a tall guy and a comic bad guy being short and a joke about that. Par for the course.
 
Some see high income as form of status. The higher the income, the higher the status and sense of self worth. Not the best world view, but there it is....

There's status but I think the disparity in perceived power is the real issue for some.

I think status is a form of power. A so called 'man of substance' has status because he has wealth. Having wealth, substance, he is high in the pecking order, not to be compared with someone living on unemployment benefits or working in a factory on minimum wage.
 
Wait, wait, wait...

So, how many Marvel movies have we had so far? And how many DC movies?

And how many of them have had women as the main character so far? Black Widow doesn't count.

And you're telling me that, according to Fox News, we guys can't take *one* movie with women as the leads?

Seriously? Just bring them to see Captain America, or Man of Steel, or Gaurdians of the Galaxy, or...whatever.

I would agree that Black Widow does not count, but I think Gamora in Guardians of the Galaxy is at least arguable.

I think you may have forgotten about Elektra (okay, there is probably good reason for that). The trend is starting to change, though. We have Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers) movies upcoming, as well as series' for Jessica Jones (Power Woman) and Supergirl. Of course I am sure that Fox will throw a fit over each one of those in turn over the next few years.
 
I thought you were purple? :) And I just looked it up, and Theo's dyslexia wasn't introduced until midway through season 6. So presumably he would have been portrayed as "dumb kid" until then.

He wasn't.

Theo was portrayed as an ordinary teenager. The jokes about his poor decisions weren't about him being stupid, they were based on him being inexperienced and thoughtless. For example, the joke about how he didn't scrape the food off the plates before loading them into the dishwasher because he was in a hurry to meet up with his friends. Theo tells his Dad not to worry, the leftover food will all go down the drain. His father makes a joke about Theo having the choice of watching the chicken bones not going down the drain from inside the machine, or taking his Dad's word for it that chicken bones do not belong inside a dishwasher, and Theo must get them out of the dishwasher before he can leave. It's funny because that's the sort of thing all teenagers do, not just Theo.


I don't remember this particular episode but that's how I remember them portraying Theo. All of the kids, really. And the adults were also imperfect and messed up sometimes.
 
Men who worry about Frozen somehow "taking" their manhood have nothing to worry about, because they have already lost it.
 
Men who worry about Frozen somehow "taking" their manhood have nothing to worry about, because they have already lost it.

Their problem is defining themselves by some concept of "manhood" in the first place. If you don't cleave to something, you can't lose it.
 
Men who worry about Frozen somehow "taking" their manhood have nothing to worry about, because they have already lost it.

Their problem is defining themselves by some concept of "manhood" in the first place. If you don't cleave to something, you can't lose it.

There's nothing wrong with defining oneself by one's concept of manhood. It's only when you are defined by someone else's concept that it can be lost.
 
Their problem is defining themselves by some concept of "manhood" in the first place. If you don't cleave to something, you can't lose it.

There's nothing wrong with defining oneself by one's concept of manhood. It's only when you are defined by someone else's concept that it can be lost.

But in the absence of any one else's concepts is there any real use of that concept for yourself? Can you not just live as who you are and not worry about defining oneself by concepts of who you think you ought to be?

I'd be very surprised if any individual's concept of "manhood" is not significantly influence by others' concept of it.
 
There's nothing wrong with defining oneself by one's concept of manhood. It's only when you are defined by someone else's concept that it can be lost.

But in the absence of any one else's concepts is there any real use of that concept for yourself? Can you not just live as who you are and not worry about defining oneself by concepts of who you think you ought to be?

I'd be very surprised if any individual's concept of "manhood" is not significantly influence by others' concept of it.

If you don't live by a concept of who you think you ought to be, what else is there?

A real man takes a concept of manhood and makes it his own, in a manly way. Fuck what anybody else says and no Disney cartoon is going to make a difference.

I can do pushups with a princess sitting on my back.
 
My princess can do pushups with me on her back. :waggle:
 
Wait, wait, wait...

So, how many Marvel movies have we had so far? And how many DC movies?

And how many of them have had women as the main character so far? Black Widow doesn't count.

And you're telling me that, according to Fox News, we guys can't take *one* movie with women as the leads?

Seriously? Just bring them to see Captain America, or Man of Steel, or Gaurdians of the Galaxy, or...whatever.

I would agree that Black Widow does not count, but I think Gamora in Guardians of the Galaxy is at least arguable.

I think you may have forgotten about Elektra (okay, there is probably good reason for that). The trend is starting to change, though. We have Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers) movies upcoming, as well as series' for Jessica Jones (Power Woman) and Supergirl. Of course I am sure that Fox will throw a fit over each one of those in turn over the next few years.

That's not really my point. I think it's bizarre to say that *one* movie will destroy boys, but girls get to watch plenty of films involving boys and men acting "boyish" or "manly", and grow up fine?
 
Haven't we already given up our manhood by being pussy liberals?
 
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