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How should west respond to Russian invasion of Ukraine?

 
 
 

Eight crew members are dead in a B-52 bomber crash shortly after takeoff from Edwards Air Force Base, northeast of Los Angeles, on Monday morning, the base said.

It is the deadliest crash involving a B-52 bomber since 1982. In that crash, nine crew members died in test training at the Mather Air Force Base near Sacramento, The Associated Press reported at the time.
 
barbos said:

Eight crew members are dead in a B-52 bomber crash shortly after takeoff from Edwards Air Force Base, northeast of Los Angeles, on Monday morning, the base said.

It is the deadliest crash involving a B-52 bomber since 1982. In that crash, nine crew members died in test training at the Mather Air Force Base near Sacramento, The Associated Press reported at the time.
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Sad news. But completely unrelated to the topic of this thread.
 
bilby said:
barbos said:

Eight crew members are dead in a B-52 bomber crash shortly after takeoff from Edwards Air Force Base, northeast of Los Angeles, on Monday morning, the base said.

It is the deadliest crash involving a B-52 bomber since 1982. In that crash, nine crew members died in test training at the Mather Air Force Base near Sacramento, The Associated Press reported at the time.
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Sad news. But completely unrelated to the topic of this thread.
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I disagree, very related. It shows decay of US Airforce which means less weapons to Kiev Regime
 
bilby said:
barbos said:

Eight crew members are dead in a B-52 bomber crash shortly after takeoff from Edwards Air Force Base, northeast of Los Angeles, on Monday morning, the base said.

It is the deadliest crash involving a B-52 bomber since 1982. In that crash, nine crew members died in test training at the Mather Air Force Base near Sacramento, The Associated Press reported at the time.
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Sad news. But completely unrelated to the topic of this thread.
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Since Barbos gets $100/post and it does not have to be related to the thread it is in I will express no surprise.
 
barbos said:
bilby said:
barbos said:

Eight crew members are dead in a B-52 bomber crash shortly after takeoff from Edwards Air Force Base, northeast of Los Angeles, on Monday morning, the base said.

It is the deadliest crash involving a B-52 bomber since 1982. In that crash, nine crew members died in test training at the Mather Air Force Base near Sacramento, The Associated Press reported at the time.
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Sad news. But completely unrelated to the topic of this thread.
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I disagree, very related. It shows decay of US Airforce which means less weapons to Kiev Regime
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OK. Then what does this say about the Russian Airforce?
https://www.reuters.com/business/ae...crashes-siberia-training-exercise-2026-06-15/

Seems like it was a bad day all round for strategic bombers.
 
Harry Bosch said:
barbos said:
3 Patriot launchers and and one patriot radar were destroyed in recent attack on Kiev:

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We're supposed to listen to this guy? He's some kind of expert and yet he can't even spell the name of the capital of Ukraine? He sounds like an idiot.
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Alexander Mercouris was a London lawyer and Barrister who "was disbarred in England in 2014 by the Bar Standards Tribunal following allegations of forging a Supreme Court judge's signature and fabricating a claim that a senior law lord had abducted and bribed him. He has since transitioned fully into media and political analysis." Great record of honesty by that guy and another example of Barbos linking to bullshitters.
 
The latest Russian tank to flip it's top is at the refinery outside Moscow. Oddly enough, Ukraine can't claim this one, at least directly. It was hit by a Pansir anti aircraft missile, which apparently missed it's intended target.

The Pansir system used to be one of the most respected anti aircraft weapons in the world. Most anti aircraft projectiles have a self destruct mechanism which would prevent this kind of thing. After all, the primary purpose of anti aircraft is to protect stuff on the ground. Right now, Russia is consuming Pansirs at a pretty good rate (not counting the ones that get destroyed still in the tube), so this one was probably made sometime last week. If you have to cut costs, a self destuct for something that's going to blow up anyway, may be a reasonable way to save a little money. More likely, it requires imported parts that are hard to get.
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barbos said:
No, not both sides. We don't go around EU/Canada/South America and give money to america haters.
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You are not aware of your government giving money to America-haters. Doesn't mean it's not happening.

It certainly used to happen--note how there used to be a bunch of Marxist terror groups around the world, they basically disappeared after your old government collapsed and got out of the business of funding them.
 
barbos said:
what is wrong with giving money to capitalism haters?
We were doing it quite openly, not like you did in the past and are doing now.
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You did it both openly and covertly. But the important bit is that you don't get to criticize others for doing what you do extensively.
 
barbos said:
No, I most certainly will complain and did already.
There is difference with literally paying money to people to lie (You)
and supporting people who actually believe what they are doing.

You fucking assholes, claim openly "Democracy blah blah, blah, freedom"
In reality when doors are closed you say "We really want you to cause problems for Russia, here are the money, take it."

Freedom fighters you were supporting in Afghanistan in the 80s and democracy?
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Afghanistan? Where we gave money to the groups trying to expel the group you gave money to in order to provide a pretext for invasion?

Admittedly, I doubt your received an honest history education.
 
bilby said:
barbos said:
You fucking support current regime in Syria, which you installed - Al fucking Queda!
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I can assure you that I installed no such thing. I have never even visited Syria.
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I think what he's referring to is we have at times aided some of the groups opposed to the old Syria. Didn't last very long, though, because we realized they weren't actually interested in improving Syria. Any good guys in Syria certainly have either gotten out or gotten dead by now.
 
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