#BlackinAmerica

[RavenSky]

Today at my local Starbucks:



People using a table at Starbucks to eat their Burger King.

It's OK though... they weren't black

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Nordstrom Rack falsely accuses 3 black teenagers shopping for their prom clothes of theft

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"When she called us a punk, and she didn't have anything to do with the situation, everyone in the store is against us looking at us crazy, (and) we didn’t do anything," Lee told the Post-Dispatch. "I was totally embarrassed, and we're the only ones defending ourselves against everyone in the store."

Upon leaving the Nordstrom Rack, the students said they were greeted by Brentwood Police in the parking lot, who informed them that the store had accused them of shoplifting. KMOV reports that, after a brief investigation, the teens were let go without charges.

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https://www.aol.com/article/news/20...ing-for-their-prom-clothes-of-theft/23429753/

 

[laughing dog]

Nordstrom Rack falsely accuses 3 black teenagers shopping for their prom clothes of theft

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"When she called us a punk, and she didn't have anything to do with the situation, everyone in the store is against us looking at us crazy, (and) we didn’t do anything," Lee told the Post-Dispatch. "I was totally embarrassed, and we're the only ones defending ourselves against everyone in the store."

Upon leaving the Nordstrom Rack, the students said they were greeted by Brentwood Police in the parking lot, who informed them that the store had accused them of shoplifting. KMOV reports that, after a brief investigation, the teens were let go without charges.

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https://www.aol.com/article/news/20...ing-for-their-prom-clothes-of-theft/23429753/

At least the police treated these teenagers with respect.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

At least the police treated these teenagers with respect.

That's true. In this case, it was really other customers and store employees treating them with less respect than other customers. If the police treated them like criminals, rather than suspects, something significantly harmful could have happened.

 

[Derec]

https://www.aol.com/article/news/20...ing-for-their-prom-clothes-of-theft/23429753/

Does a low-level incident like this really require a company president to travel to St. Louis to apologize in person? Would he have done the same if some white teens were accused of shoplifting? Or is this yet another example of black privilege?

On the other hand, in South Carolina we have a real life Tracy:
$1,000+ worth of jeans stolen from Rock Hill JCPenney

A store employee told police that a black male wearing a plaid red, white and blue shirt grabbed the various sizes of Arizona Boys Jeans and ran out of the store, located at 2301 Dave Lyle Boulevard.

 

[Derec]

It's OK though... they weren't black

Not white either though. Funny though.

On a more serious side, not all Starbucks are equally busy re sit down custom and the business varies by day. Downtown locations tend to be busier than suburban ones for example.
If the place is not very busy, I can see the management be much more lenient than at peak times. Also, with downtown locations the "customer only" requirement is necessary because of the homeless population, lest businesses look like the Atlanta/Fulton County central library on Forsyth, which has pretty much degenerated into a homeless day shelter, especially the bathrooms.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

Does a low-level incident like this really require a company president to travel to St. Louis to apologize in person? Would he have done the same if some white teens were accused of shoplifting? Or is this yet another example of black privilege?]

It's privilege that one can just hop on a plane to make one look good and caring. I think if he's interested in helping, instead, he should apologize, increase awareness with a program, and then use the money for the first class, immediate plane ticket to help disadvantaged youth with prom clothes from his store with a big discount.

 

[laughing dog]

Does a low-level incident like this really require a company president to travel to St. Louis to apologize in person? Would he have done the same if some white teens were accused of shoplifting?

I think you should write to him and ask him?

Or is this yet another example of black privilege?

How is being abased and wrongly accused of shoplifting an example of "privilege"? And on what bizarre basis does one figure that a company president personally apologizing for the misbehavior of the employees a form of "privilege" on the part of the victims, let alone "black privilege"?

On the other hand, in South Carolina we have a real life Tracy:
$1,000+ worth of jeans stolen from Rock Hill JCPenney

A store employee told police that a black male wearing a plaid red, white and blue shirt grabbed the various sizes of Arizona Boys Jeans and ran out of the store, located at 2301 Dave Lyle Boulevard.

Is this another example of white hate-boner privilege?

 

[repoman]

 

[Toni]

https://www.aol.com/article/news/20...ing-for-their-prom-clothes-of-theft/23429753/

Does a low-level incident like this really require a company president to travel to St. Louis to apologize in person? Would he have done the same if some white teens were accused of shoplifting? Or is this yet another example of black privilege?

On the other hand, in South Carolina we have a real life Tracy:
$1,000+ worth of jeans stolen from Rock Hill JCPenney

A store employee told police that a black male wearing a plaid red, white and blue shirt grabbed the various sizes of Arizona Boys Jeans and ran out of the store, located at 2301 Dave Lyle Boulevard.

Derec, real question:

What kind of site(s) do you subscribe to that make you aware of so many infractions by black people and women and at the same time, so ignorant of the bad behavior of white male people?

I'm just curious. Do you have these sites bookmarked? Do they send black criminal alerts to your email address? How do you do that?

 

[repoman]

Does a low-level incident like this really require a company president to travel to St. Louis to apologize in person? Would he have done the same if some white teens were accused of shoplifting? Or is this yet another example of black privilege?

On the other hand, in South Carolina we have a real life Tracy:
$1,000+ worth of jeans stolen from Rock Hill JCPenney

Derec, real question:

What kind of site(s) do you subscribe to that make you aware of so many infractions by black people and women and at the same time, so ignorant of the bad behavior of white male people?

I'm just curious. Do you have these sites bookmarked? Do they send black criminal alerts to your email address? How do you do that?

Newnation.org is a good one.

 

[Arctish]

It's OK though... they weren't black

Not white either though. Funny though.

On a more serious side, not all Starbucks are equally busy re sit down custom and the business varies by day. Downtown locations tend to be busier than suburban ones for example.
If the place is not very busy, I can see the management be much more lenient than at peak times. Also, with downtown locations the "customer only" requirement is necessary because of the homeless population, lest businesses look like the Atlanta/Fulton County central library on Forsyth, which has pretty much degenerated into a homeless day shelter, especially the bathrooms.

And if the store is located in a really trendy part of New York City and owned by the Soup Nazi, customers have exactly 30 seconds to place their orders (no chit chat) then step to the left and pay. Otherwise, No Coffee for You! and they call the cops.

 

[Derec]

I think you should write to him and ask him?

It was a rhetorical question.

How is being abased and wrongly accused of shoplifting an example of "privilege"?

What happens after is example of privilege. For example getting free college for getting kicked out of a Starbucks. I wonder what these teens will get as their reward.

And on what bizarre basis does one figure that a company president personally apologizing for the misbehavior of the employees a form of "privilege" on the part of the victims, let alone "black privilege"?

Because it would never have happened with a white person wrongly accused of shoplifting.

Is this another example of white hate-boner privilege?

Nope.

 

[Derec]

Derec, real question:
What kind of site(s) do you subscribe to that make you aware of so many infractions by black people and women and at the same time, so ignorant of the bad behavior of white male people?

None of the above. You have some strange notions of my Internet habits. This particular crime I found out about from a tweet, believe it or not.

I'm just curious. Do you have these sites bookmarked? Do they send black criminal alerts to your email address? How do you do that?

I am curious too. Where do Underseer and the rest of you get all the stories of poor, victimized blacks? I mean, that story on AirBnB Underseer got from the girl's Facebook, it hadn't even made the news at the time.

 

[Derec]

It's privilege that one can just hop on a plane to make one look good and caring.

Well that's CEO privilege. Nobody is denying that CEOs, regardless of race, are extremely privileged.

I think if he's interested in helping, instead, he should apologize, increase awareness with a program, and then use the money for the first class, immediate plane ticket to help disadvantaged youth with prom clothes from his store with a big discount.

I think you either think first class tickets cost much more than they do or you think programs benefiting a large number of people cost much less than they do.
Second, we do not know these kids were "disadvantaged"? And why should disadvantaged people get discounts for luxury stores when there are reasonably prices stores selling clothes?

 

[laughing dog]

It was a rhetorical question.

In other words, white hate boner whining.

What happens after is example of privilege. For example getting free college for getting kicked out of a Starbucks. I wonder what these teens will get as their reward.

What are you babbling about?

Because it would never have happened with a white person wrongly accused of shoplifting.

Another example of white honer boner whining.

Nope.

Wrong, as well as your entire response.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

It's privilege that one can just hop on a plane to make one look good and caring.

Well that's CEO privilege. Nobody is denying that CEOs, regardless of race, are extremely privileged.

You're changing the subject as you said his actions were black privilege and now you are saying they are CEO privilege. His actions are an attempt at damage control and what enables him to do it is money.

I think if he's interested in helping, instead, he should apologize, increase awareness with a program, and then use the money for the first class, immediate plane ticket to help disadvantaged youth with prom clothes from his store with a big discount.

I think you either think first class tickets cost much more than they do or you think programs benefiting a large number of people cost much less than they do.

No, you are wrong on both counts. First, I clearly mentioned that a second factor other than first class ticket was the last-minute nature of getting the ticket which makes it more expensive. Second, nowhere did I write that the same money could be used on a large number of people.

Second, we do not know these kids were "disadvantaged"?

So just to be clear you think this is a racism issue and not a classism issue, right?

And why should disadvantaged people get discounts for luxury stores when there are reasonably prices stores selling clothes?

I did not write that disadvantaged kids should get discounts generally and maybe I think that or maybe I don't. Since I did not write it, I don't care to assert it now. Instead, what I wrote is that if he really cares.

 

[Toni]

Derec, real question:
What kind of site(s) do you subscribe to that make you aware of so many infractions by black people and women and at the same time, so ignorant of the bad behavior of white male people?

None of the above. You have some strange notions of my Internet habits. This particular crime I found out about from a tweet, believe it or not.

Twitter would have been a fine answer. So you just follow rightwing white power figures. Got it.

I have no idea what your internet habits are. That is why I asked.

I'm just curious. Do you have these sites bookmarked? Do they send black criminal alerts to your email address? How do you do that?

I am curious too. Where do Underseer and the rest of you get all the stories of poor, victimized blacks? I mean, that story on AirBnB Underseer got from the girl's Facebook, it hadn't even made the news at the time.

I get almost all of my news from major national news sources, with local news as a more minor source.

 

[Derec]

Twitter would have been a fine answer. So you just follow rightwing white power figures. Got it.

Wrong again. As usual.

I have no idea what your internet habits are. That is why I asked.

No, you are assuming. Like you did with "white power figures". I don't even know any, much less their Twitter handles.

I get almost all of my news from major national news sources, with local news as a more minor source.

Same for me for major news. I get many others from Internet fora and social media, including on here.

 

[Derec]

You're changing the subject as you said his actions were black privilege and now you are saying they are CEO privilege. His actions are an attempt at damage control and what enables him to do it is money.

Him being able to travel at the drop of the hat is CEO privilege. Black people getting benefits like free college education over a minor incident is black privilege. Two different things, two different privileges. Do try to keep up.

No, you are wrong on both counts. First, I clearly mentioned that a second factor other than first class ticket was the last-minute nature of getting the ticket which makes it more expensive. Second, nowhere did I write that the same money could be used on a large number of people.

So you would give discounts to select few. Should there be some sort of lottery, or?

So just to be clear you think this is a racism issue and not a classism issue, right?

I don't know why these teens were suspected of shoplifting. Maybe the employees or customers were racist. Maybe they behaved oddly. We do not know.
However, I have seen nothing to indicate how much money they (or they parents) have. Do you?

I did not write that disadvantaged kids should get discounts generally and maybe I think that or maybe I don't. Since I did not write it, I don't care to assert it now. Instead, what I wrote is that if he really cares.

You did write something about deep discounts for the disadvantaged. What did you actually mean?

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In other words, white hate boner whining.

You are projecting.

What are you babbling about?

The two from the Starbucks incident got free college education at ASU. Did you not hear about that?

Wrong, as well as your entire response.

You are the one who is wrong, as always.