January 6 Hearings Live

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[KeepTalking]

The Recount on Twitter: "Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-VA) goes off on Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) during USPS oversight hearing:

“I didn’t vote to overturn an election. And I will not be lectured by people who did about partisanship.” https://t.co/oDWv9sETxk" / Twitter
and
The Recount on Twitter: "The full Connolly/Jordan exchange: https://t.co/umbXmsGgvE" / Twitter

Then
Rep. Gerry Connolly on Twitter: "Sorry, you lose the right to complain about partisanship once you've fanned the flames of violent insurrection." / Twitter
responding to Rep. Jim Jordan

We need to see a lot more of this over the next few years. Every time one of these insurrectionists try to spout off about partisanship, their support for insurrection needs to be thrown in their face.

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

The Recount on Twitter: "Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-VA) goes off on Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) during USPS oversight hearing:

“I didn’t vote to overturn an election. And I will not be lectured by people who did about partisanship.” https://t.co/oDWv9sETxk" / Twitter
and
The Recount on Twitter: "The full Connolly/Jordan exchange: https://t.co/umbXmsGgvE" / Twitter

Then
Rep. Gerry Connolly on Twitter: "Sorry, you lose the right to complain about partisanship once you've fanned the flames of violent insurrection." / Twitter
responding to Rep. Jim Jordan

We need to see a lot more of this over the next few years. Every time one of these insurrectionists try to spout off about partisanship, their support for insurrection needs to be thrown in their face.

Agreed. I wouldn't wait for the invitation, however. I'd throw it out there first, then continue to remind viewers and listeners who the liar is and who spoke approvingly about the capitol riot and murders. I'd toss in a little butthurt white supremacism for good measure.

 

[fromderinside]

Should be out there every day.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

I have no balls.

link

Okay, that is a paraphrase.

After an election marked by significant voting irregularities and numerous instances of officials setting aside state election law, I share the concerns of millions of Americans about the integrity of the 2020 election

That’s why when I was serving as presiding officer at the joint session of Congress certifying the Electoral College results, I pledged to ensure that all objections properly raised under the Electoral Count Act would be given a full hearing before Congress and the American people.

The tragic events of Jan. 6—the most significant being the loss of life and violence at our nation’s Capitol—also deprived the American people of a substantive discussion in Congress about election integrity in America.

I dare not post more in fear of making readers vomit. Okay, so he starts off saying there was all sorts of irregularities, but he couldn't actually address anything on the record during the EC event because of the insurrection. I was totally going to address this... and I promised I would address it... and I did address it... but my hands were tied... LOOK DEMOCRATS TRYING TO STEAL AN ELECTION! *flees*

 

[Shadowy Man]

The tragic events of Jan. 6—the most significant being the loss of life and violence at our nation’s Capitol—also deprived the American people of a substantive discussion in Congress about election integrity in America.

Actually it did not, as multiple Congress people continued to object even after the counting continued.

What prevents a substantive discussion about election integrity in America is the lack of intellectual integrity on the part of those who are trying to start said discussion.

We can talk about issues with voting, that’s fine, but do so in good faith. Address real issues, not fake ones, with voting rules and keep the eye on the goal, which should be to allow as many eligible voters as possible to freely exercise their right to vote.

I have not seen from the right the willingness to provide reasonable solutions. When they present ideas like one drop box per country irrespective of county population you know they aren’t discussing in good faith.

 

[lpetrich]

Someone else who dislikes Ted Cruz is fellow Republican and former House Speaker John Boehner.

John Boehner apparently dropped a 'go f--k yourself' to Ted Cruz into his memoir audiobook

It isn't clear what prompted the dig at Cruz, but Boehner famously called the Texas senator "Lucifer in the flesh" during the 2016 GOP presidential primary, adding: "I get along with almost everyone, but I have never worked with a more miserable son of a bitch in my life." His view is widely shared, especially after Cruz's micro-vacation to Cancun during the Texas frigid blackout crisis. In a Feb. 20-22 Yahoo/YouGov poll released Wednesday, only 24 percent of voters said they approve of Cruz's job performance, including a paltry 53 percent of Republicans — a drop of 24 percentage points from his January rating in a separate poll.

Former House Speaker goes off script, targets Ted Cruz in audio memoir - Axios - Boehner goes off script, tells Cruz to "go f**k yourself"

John Boehner on Twitter: "Poured myself a glass of something nice to read my audiobook. You can blame the wine for the expletives. #OnTheHouse #13Apr2021 (link)" / Twitter


Sen. Jeff Merkley details his experience during the January 6th Capitol riot - YouTube - he's D-OR

When he heard the attackers in the hallway between the House and Senate parts, he thought that these were yet more protesters. Then some people from the Sergeant at Arms's office and Mitch McConnell's office ran in, something unusual in the Senate. They took then-VP Mike Pence away, they closed the Senate session, and he wondered what was going on. After an effort to evacuate, some of those people changed their minds and the Senators were locked in the Senate chamber. Then some Senators checked their smartphones. Much less action on the Senate side than on the House side. Then a safe path was cleared for the Senators and they were all taken to a safe room.

Then about how the mob attacked the Capitol cops. Very unusual, since most protesters don't do that, even very angry ones.

Despite warnings that this crowd was different - with weapons, plans, intent to break in, etc. - the Capitol Police was unprepared. JM suspected that it was so bizarre and outlandish and unexpected that the Capitol Police leadership didn't prepare.

 

[lpetrich]

Opinion | Did the Pentagon wait for Trump’s approval before defending the Capitol? - The Washington Post

Three hours and 19 minutes.

That’s how long it took from the first, desperate pleas for help from the Capitol Police to the Trump Pentagon on Jan. 6 until the D.C. National Guard finally received permission to help put down the bloody insurrection.

During those 199 minutes, the mob sacked the Capitol. People died. Overwhelmed Capitol and D.C. police were beaten. Lawmakers’ lives were jeopardized. And violent extremists defiled the seat of government, temporarily halting the certification of Joe Biden’s victory.

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At best, this was a catastrophic failure of government. At worst, political appointees and Trump loyalists at the Defense Department deliberately prevented the National Guard from defending the Capitol against a seditious mob.

The man ultimately responsible for the delay, Christopher Miller, had been a White House aide before Donald Trump installed him as acting defense secretary in November, as the president began his attempt to overturn his election defeat. Miller did Trump’s political bidding at another point during his 10-week tenure, forcing the National Security Agency to install a Republican political operative as chief counsel.

Also involved in the Pentagon delay was Lt. Gen. Charles Flynn, brother of disgraced former Trump adviser Michael Flynn, convicted (and pardoned) for lying to the FBI. Michael Flynn had suggested Trump declare martial law, and he helped to rile Trump supporters in Washington the day before the Capitol attack. The Pentagon had falsely denied to Post journalists that Charles Flynn was involved in the pivotal call on Jan. 6.

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The Pentagon’s 199-minute delay looks worse in light of a Jan. 4 memo Miller issued saying that without his “personal authorization” the D.C. Guard couldn’t “be issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor.”

The Army secretary added more restrictions the next day, saying in a memo that he would “withhold authority” for the D.C. Guard to deploy a “quick reaction force” and that he would “require a concept of operation” before allowing a quick reaction force to react. McCarthy even blocked the D.C. Guard in advance from redeploying to the Capitol guardsmen assigned to help the D.C. police elsewhere in Washington.

This seems suspicious. Was Christopher Miller somehow in on the attackers' plans? He seems suspiciously close to having been a fifth columnist.

 

[lpetrich]

Opinion | The Pentagon delayed three hours in sending troops on Jan. 6. It still hasn’t given a good reason. - The Washington Post

ONE PHRASE was repeated over and over at Wednesday’s Senate hearing on the Jan. 6 insurrection at the Capitol: Three hours and 19 minutes. Three hours and 19 minutes. That is how long it took the Pentagon to agree to dispatch troops to help beleaguered Capitol Police overrun by the violent pro-Trump mob. Lawmakers were clearly incredulous about the agonizing delay, and rightly so. Equally stupefying was the lack of any good explanation as to why, despite frantic and repeated pleas from officials on the scene as well as the live broadcast of the chaos on television, the Defense Department delayed in sending help.

As I posted earlier, I suspect fifth columnists in the military leadership.

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

It's pretty obvious that the delay in sending help can be placed in the same category with calling Georgia election officials to find votes. There really isn't any mystery here.

 

[Elixir]

Opinion | The Pentagon delayed three hours in sending troops on Jan. 6. It still hasn’t given a good reason. - The Washington Post

ONE PHRASE was repeated over and over at Wednesday’s Senate hearing on the Jan. 6 insurrection at the Capitol: Three hours and 19 minutes. Three hours and 19 minutes. That is how long it took the Pentagon to agree to dispatch troops to help beleaguered Capitol Police overrun by the violent pro-Trump mob. Lawmakers were clearly incredulous about the agonizing delay, and rightly so. Equally stupefying was the lack of any good explanation as to why, despite frantic and repeated pleas from officials on the scene as well as the live broadcast of the chaos on television, the Defense Department delayed in sending help.

As I posted earlier, I suspect fifth columnists in the military leadership.

Any self respecting coup-attempter should absolutely delay the quelling of the coup attempt until it is perfectly clear that it's not going to succeed. Fer crissakes, that's Insurrection 101.

 

[lpetrich]

Trump himself reportedly liked what he saw -- he didn't order the National Guard to come in, at least at first, and he ignored politicians from his party who pleaded for help.


Marjorie Taylor Greene's delay tactics frustrate GOP | TheHill

Georgia GOP Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene's efforts to delay congressional business by forcing futile procedural votes to adjourn the House each day are disrupting committee hearings and virtual constituent meetings — and ticking off a growing chorus of Republican colleagues.

Rep. Ann Wagner (R-Mo.) had to rush out of a committee hearing with Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell on monetary policy. Rep. David Joyce (R-Ohio) had to step out of a video conference with an international conservation group. And Rep. Tim Walberg (R-Mich.) had to halt a Zoom meeting with local chambers of commerce from the Great Lakes region.

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Some point out the irony: Greene complained that ousting her from committees “stripped my district of their voice” and “stripped my voters of having representation to work for them.” Now, Republicans are turning the tables on Greene, arguing that her obstruction is making them less effective at representing their own constituents.

Will MTG become so annoying that the Republicans decide to expel her?

 

[lpetrich]

Real America's Voice (RAV) on Twitter: ""I'm tired of weak Republicans."

@mtgreenee & @RealDrGina discuss accountability in Washington. (vid link)" / Twitter

Then
Marjorie Taylor Greene on Twitter: "I called for a motion to adjourn ..." / Twitter

I called for a motion to adjourn to give Democrats time to think before they pass horrible HR1 & the Hate Police Act.

Some GOP members complained to me that I messed up their schedule.

I’m not sorry for interrupting fundraising calls & breakfast.

GOP voters are tired weak Rs

Roll Call 24 | ADJOURN - Feb 04, 2021, 04:19 PM | 117th Congress, 1st Session
D: N 218, nv 2
R: Y 205, nv 6

Roll Call 33 | ADJOURN - Feb 24, 2021, 01:32 PM | 117th Congress, 1st Session
D: N 218, nv 2
R: Y 205, nv 6

Roll Call 38 | ADJOURN - Feb 25, 2021, 01:25 PM | 117th Congress, 1st Session
D: N 217, nv 3
R: Y 199, N 2, nv 10

Roll Call 56 | ADJOURN - Mar 03, 2021, 10:32 AM | 117th Congress, 1st Session
D: N 204, nv 16
R: Y 182, N 18, nv 11

The Senate has its own version of Greene. Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), also a key Trump ally, has been grinding the gears of the Senate to a halt this week as Democrats try to push through their sweeping COVID-19 relief package. He forced the Senate clerks to read the 628-page bill out loud, a delaying tactic that irked Democrats and Republicans alike.

 

[lpetrich]

Republicans Are Gaslighting The Country About The Capitol Riot | HuffPost - "GOP lawmakers are desperately trying to deflect blame away from Donald Trump and themselves."

Their excuses:

The Rioters Were Just A Group Of Random People, Not United By Anything

Nancy Pelosi Is To Blame

It Was Antifa

It Was Fake Trump Supporters

The Mob Wasn’t Even That Dangerous

Black Lives Matter Attacked The White House First

‘Everybody’ Is Responsible

 

[Swammerdami]

Recall that the "football", in conjunction with the "biscuit" which Pence presumably carries in a holster near his crotch, is the device which initiates the destruction of hundreds of millions of human beings.

Impeachment video shows Pence had 'nuclear football' as he moved away from Capitol riot | TheHill

Perhaps there was little danger of Viking Man (or any of the other criminals, terrorists, or Hannity sheeple) launching a nuclear attack, but this episode still serves as a stunning metaphor for the incompetent take-over of the world's superpower by the Republiotard hypocrites, whether for four years or on the 6th of January specifically.

Write-ups of the "football" and "biscuit" are unclear. Only the Prez or Vice-Prez are "able" to launch nuclear weapons, but I think "able" means "authorized to." I think a famous movie has it about right:

President Muffley:
. . . . . General Turgidson, I find this very difficult to understand. I was under the impression that I was the only one in authority to order the use of nuclear weapons.

General Turgidson:
. . . . . That's right sir. You are the only person authorized to do so. And although I hate to judge before all the facts are in, it's beginning to look like General Ripper exceeded his authority.

The Pentagon seems to have copies of the information present in the "football" and "biscuit." Given all the security oversights we hear about, I suppose there's a 50-50 chance that some hacker in Seattle or Moscow has the launch codes also.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Only the Prez or Vice-Prez are "able" to launch nuclear weapons, but I think "able" means "authorized to."

The VP i s only authorized in specific situations where the P is out if communication, compromised, or dead. He's the back-up Nuclear Commzznd Authority with the power to initiate a nuclear release.
But neither one has sole authority to start a launch. Thrre are military aides that help determine which launch options are going to be utilized, which target packages will best achieve the (V)P's goals, and which legs of the triad will be engaged ("You wanna shoot now, with what's spun up in th e silos, or wait to position the subs, or wait to sober up tge bomber pilots?"), and even if the conditions of nuclear release have been met. If the career officer who studies nukes, Nuremberg, and international law feels that the NCA is asking for an illegal launch, he doesn't have to co-authorize the release. It's actually his job not to.

 

[TomC]

Only the Prez or Vice-Prez are "able" to launch nuclear weapons, but I think "able" means "authorized to."

The VP i s only authorized in specific situations where the P is out if communication, compromised, or dead. He's the back-up Nuclear Commzznd Authority with the power to initiate a nuclear release.
But neither one has sole authority to start a launch. Thrre are military aides that help determine which launch options are going to be utilized, which target packages will best achieve the (V)P's goals, and which legs of the triad will be engaged ("You wanna shoot now, with what's spun up in th e silos, or wait to position the subs, or wait to sober up tge bomber pilots?"), and even if the conditions of nuclear release have been met. If the career officer who studies nukes, Nuremberg, and international law feels that the NCA is asking for an illegal launch, he doesn't have to co-authorize the release. It's actually his job not to.

It's also the military's job to protect the government. But we live in a country where the president instigated a violent insurrection against the elected government and refused to help put it down.

Then there's [MENTION=1847]Swammerdami[/MENTION]; s post 1676.
"Given all the security oversights we hear about, I suppose there's a 50-50 chance that some hacker in Seattle or Moscow has the launch codes also."

Whats on paper doesn't always bear resemblance to the reality.
Tom

 

[Keith&Co.]

You really underestimate the paranoia involved in the system's design. We can't even connect the sub's Missile Control Computer to tge same sub's Radio Room, to make secure targeting updates idiot proof, because the decision people at SSP are so adamant about MCC being unhackable. Similar neasures surround the release codes in the isolated basement computers that generate and send them.
When they made the movie, Crimson Tide, the Navy updated the system by installing a safe that no one on board has the combination to.
Even if Eric Trump was somehow appointed CO of the Rhode Island, and Trump told him directly to launch nukes, he'd be physically incapable without the rest of the approval process agreeing to the justification for launch.
And those guys really want to avoid war crimes and their impact on post-service job prospects.

 

[bilby]

You really underestimate the paranoia involved in the system's design. We can't even connect the sub's Missile Control Computer to tge same sub's Radio Room, to make secure targeting updates idiot proof, because the decision people at SSP are so adamant about MCC being unhackable. Similar neasures surround the release codes in the isolated basement computers that generate and send them.
When they made the movie, Crimson Tide, the Navy updated the system by installing a safe that no one on board has the combination to.
Even if Eric Trump was somehow appointed CO of the Rhode Island, and Trump told him directly to launch nukes, he'd be physically incapable without the rest of the approval process agreeing to the justification for launch.
And those guys really want to avoid war crimes and their impact on post-service job prospects.

Yeah, "murdered a billion assorted foreigners" looks pretty bad on your permanent record; If it's followed up with "...leading to a retaliatory strike that killed 200 million Americans", you're really going to struggle to get an interview.

Even the GOP is unlikely to let you run with the "did they die of themonuclear bombardment, or did they have pre-existing consitions, and merely die with thermonuclear bombardment?" excuse.