But your analogy doesn't make sense. I have never been against quarantining people who have an infectious disease. I am against quarantining people who don't have the disease.
The problem is people don't know they have Covid. It's contagious before it shows symptoms. That's why it exploded across the world while SARS was stopped.
Being vaxxed does not change your level of awareness about having COVID.
With a communicable virus, they are not only taking unnecessary risk for themselves, but for everyone around them. Just like a person who takes an unnecessary risk by driving at high speed, exceeding the speed limit, on a crowded highway. You are advocating that we let them be a danger to everyone because they might become distressed by being forced to slow down.
People without COVID are not a danger to anybody in transmitting COVID.
You don't seem to understand the key issue here--people can't know they don't have Covid, thus this comparison is irrelevant.
I understand the issue. I reject forcing other people to get a medical procedure for your benefit.
Of course there could be long term effects from having had COVID. But the people who choose not to be vaccinated have decided that they are willing to take that risk for themselves.
They can choose to take the risk for themselves--but they don't get to choose to take it for others.
How about we make it a bit more fair--a lottery. Every person who refuses the vaccine is in the lottery. Every time someone who is vaccinated dies a name is drawn and that person is executed.
Hell, why not combine the lottery with house arrest? But the execution should be televised, and particularly inhumane and gruesome, to warn all the other people who refuse to be coerced into a medical procedure on their body.
Yes, you have somehow come to the conclusion that psychological harm, no matter the extent, is worse than death. That is not a view I have seen espoused from many people. In fact, in my experience, that makes you quite unique.
No, I do not mean that all psychological harm is worse than death.
You have described the lives of people forced to be vaccinated as wretched.
Toni's indefinite house arrest plan would make the lives of the unvaccinated wretched.
Not at all! For one thing, there is something very specific and free! that they can do in order to enjoy free movement. Something that I don't enjoy now, even though I am vaccinated and about to get my booster shot. Nope: I still constrain my movements, limit my opportunities to socialize or interact with other people, purchase household goods and engage in other everyday, ordinary activities BECAUSE OF ASSHOLES WHO WON'T GET VAXXED. Not CAN'T. WON'T.
That you constrain your own movements is up to you.
How do you know? How do you know that I am not living with a medically vulnerable person? Someone with cancer or a compromised immune system? You don't know.
I know the government isn't forcing you under house arrest as you would like to force others.
The movements of every person who has a compromised immune system or serious asthma or who lives with them has their movements constrained if they want to avoid exposure to the virus from unvaccinated persons. That threat is very real. See: Colin Powell, who certainly had the best possible medical care and was fully vaccinated--and still got sick from someone who was not so responsible.
You are choosing to constrain yourself. Nobody is forcing you under house arrest as you would like to force others.
What about the parents of young children? Or ANY young child whose school might close down because of an outbreak? They MUST constrain their movements, take time from work or work from home or have some kind of similar arrangement. A friend was forced to take 2 weeks off when her high school aged daughter was exposed to COVID19 at school. Her whole household was quarantined, so her husband had to work remotely (her job cannot be performed remotely). Fortunately, their older son was away at college--and could not come home during this time period. There are families who are separated by international borders because of unvaccinated people prolonging the pandemic. A friend who was born internationally and is working in the US cannot yet bring his family over because of the pandemic. Only recently was my friend able to visit her mother in her mother's nursing home because of the pandemic. Both my friend and her mother are vaccinated and were vaccinated the second they were able to be vaccinated. LOTS of people are separated from family and loved ones because of the pandemic. The whole world is still undergoing all sorts of constraints because of those who refuse to vaccinate and who won't stay home or wear masks appropriately.
You are not doing a very good job of selling the vaccine, Toni.
I have been away from my mother because my movements were constrained by the State. We are both vaccinated and now that my government has decided to not imprison me, I am able to visit her. I am not concerned about interacting with others in the community and neither is my mother, because we actually believe in the vaccine's efficacy.
But if she was concerned, she'd stay home, and so would I. I wouldn't demand, by force of State, that other people have a medical procedure that they don't want in order to benefit me personally.
