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"Coronavirus and the US" or "We are all going to die!!!!"

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Three red blocks in Idaho. One where i was born, one where i grew up, one where my Dad lives now.
So much for family or high school reunions this year. Darn. Shucks. Oh, and poo.
 
UPMC thinks they might have a vaccine. Paperwork to begin human trials starting now.

They had already been working on SARS / MERS related stuff, so this wasn't a big diversion for them. If it does work, it'd be great, and they claim relatively easy scalability, but of course, scaling will still take time.
 
It also correlates well with which states were once in the Southern Confederacy. These states are also very heavily Republican and right wing, and such people are very likely to believe that concern about coronavirus is a lib-buh-ruhl thing.
 
lpetrich said:
It also correlates well with which states were once in the Southern Confederacy. These states are also very heavily Republican and right wing, and such people are very likely to believe that concern about coronavirus is a lib-buh-ruhl thing.
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Lots of megachurches in those red areas.
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
UPMC thinks they might have a vaccine. Paperwork to begin human trials starting now.

They had already been working on SARS / MERS related stuff, so this wasn't a big diversion for them. If it does work, it'd be great, and they claim relatively easy scalability, but of course, scaling will still take time.
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Cool... at least if you're a mouse! We'll see - fingers crossed. Love the delivery system - never heard of such a thing:

"The researchers also used a novel approach to deliver the drug, called a microneedle array, to increase potency. This array is a fingertip-sized patch of 400 tiny needles that delivers the spike protein pieces into the skin, where the immune reaction is strongest. The patch goes on like a Band-Aid and then the needles — which are made entirely of sugar and the protein pieces — simply dissolve into the skin. ... feels like velcro..."
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Even if it's approved tomorrow, it's probably too late for the red areas. Bummer.

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lpetrich said:
It also correlates well with which states were once in the Southern Confederacy. These states are also very heavily Republican and right wing, and such people are very likely to believe that concern about coronavirus is a lib-buh-ruhl thing.
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Lots of megachurches in those red areas.
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A great setup for transmitting the virus -- a lot of people getting together while denying that they risk anything by doing so.
 
lpetrich said:
Angry Floof said:
lpetrich said:
It also correlates well with which states were once in the Southern Confederacy. These states are also very heavily Republican and right wing, and such people are very likely to believe that concern about coronavirus is a lib-buh-ruhl thing.
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Lots of megachurches in those red areas.
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A great setup for transmitting the virus -- a lot of people getting together while denying that they risk anything by doing so.
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Not only denying, but eager to prove their magical beliefs will protect them. You can bet those churches are full of self satisfied morons believing they're showing the world the power of their specific flavor of stupidstition.

Zealotry has consequences, and usually for others to pay and not just the zealot (If only!), and zealots have to have tragedy visit their own doorsteps before they will have the humanity and fucking wherewithal to use their god damn frontal lobes.
 
Religion does appear to be a big problem here. Religion combined with greed is worse.

Notice that that grand religious company Hobby Lobby was opening up stores around the country in violation of state orders to remain closed? Because the owners wife talks to god and god told her to have him open the stores.
 
Yeah, I feel lucky living in San Francisco and we've been in at least "shelter in place" since May 16. I'm not super worried about myself, though. My parents are another story, particularly my father, who is in his mid 70s with diabetes and some lung damage from an infection he contracted when he worked all over the world in his 50s.

They live right at the edge of Looney Country. Thankfully, Northern VA seems to be doing well.

But I worry.
 
Jimmy Higgins said:
UPMC thinks they might have a vaccine. Paperwork to begin human trials starting now.

They had already been working on SARS / MERS related stuff, so this wasn't a big diversion for them. If it does work, it'd be great, and they claim relatively easy scalability, but of course, scaling will still take time.
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Good news, for sure. Despite the paltry amount of funding, American biological and medical research is something we can be proud of.

They are a bunch of smart, dedicated people from all over the world.
 
J842P said:
Yeah, I feel lucky living in San Francisco and we've been in at least "shelter in place" since May 16. I'm not super worried about myself, though. My parents are another story, particularly my father, who is in his mid 70s with diabetes and some lung damage from an infection he contracted when he worked all over the world in his 50s.

They live right at the edge of Looney Country. Thankfully, Northern VA seems to be doing well.

But I worry.
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Since May 16? 2019?
 
cytokine storm

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/01/health/coronavirus-cytokine-storm-immune-system.html

The 42-year-old man arrived at a hospital in Paris on March 17 with a fever, cough and the “ground glass opacities” in both lungs that are a trademark of infection with the new coronavirus.

Two days later, his condition suddenly worsened and his oxygen levels dropped. His body, doctors suspected, was in the grip of a cytokine storm, a dangerous overreaction of the immune system. The phenomenon has become all too common in the coronavirus pandemic, but it is also pointing to potentially helpful drug treatments.

When the body first encounters a virus or a bacterium, the immune system ramps up and begins to fight the invader. The foot soldiers in this fight are molecules called cytokines that set off a cascade of signals to cells to marshal a response. Usually, the stronger this immune response, the stronger the chance of vanquishing the infection, which is partly why children and younger people are less vulnerable over all to coronavirus. And once the enemy is defeated, the immune system is hard-wired to shut itself off.

“For most people and most infections, that’s what happens,” said Dr. Randy Cron, an expert on cytokine storms at the University of Alabama at Birmingham.
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But in some cases — as much as 15 percent of people battling any serious infection, according to Dr. Cron’s team — the immune system keeps raging long after the virus is no longer a threat. It continues to release cytokines that keep the body on an exhausting full alert. In their misguided bid to keep the body safe, these cytokines attack multiple organs including the lungs and liver, and may eventually lead to death.

In these people, it’s their body’s response, rather than the virus, that ultimately causes harm.

Cytokine storms can overtake people of any age, but some scientists believe that they may explain why healthy young people died during the 1918 pandemic and more recently during the SARS, MERS and H1N1 epidemics.
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I have Been meaning to add this information here. I read earlier today about a 29 year old male nurse practitioner who almost died from the virus. He was on life support for several days before he started to recover. He worked in mental health and has no idea how he came into contract with the virus. He was a body builder who didn't have as much as a cold in over 8 years. I wonder if he was experiencing a cytokine storm. This information just makes this damn virus even scarier. None of us should assume that we are too healthy or too young to die from this disease. Maybe this explains why some young, healthy people are dying or needing to be ventilated due to this virus. Of course, I'm just guessing, but this information is a bit disturbing.
 
Keith&Co. said:
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Three red blocks in Idaho. One where i was born, one where i grew up, one where my Dad lives now.
So much for family or high school reunions this year. Darn. Shucks. Oh, and poo.
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To be honest, I really don't get the two mile thing because if you live in the south, or any rural area, you have to travel more than two miles just to get to a grocery store, unless you live in a large city like Atlanta. My closest grocery store is a little over two miles from me and I live within the city limits of a small city, but that store sucks, so the ones that we usually shop at are over 5 miles away. I suppose the idea is that the further you travel, the further the virus is spread. It's easy to travel less than two miles if you live in a large city or close to a grocery store or pharmacy, but if you live in a state that is less populated, you usually have to travel more than two miles to get anywhere.

Almost all of the churches here have stopped having services for over three weeks. I know that one had a service last weekend, but everyone stayed in their cars, while the preacher spoke. I guess it was similar to a drive in movie.

New York City has the highest rate of infections and deaths due to the virus because it's such a congested place to live and so many people ignored the warning to stay apart until recently. Just last weekend, parks in Atlanta were congested too, so apparently lots of people still aren't taking this seriously enough yet. Our governor just did a shelter in place order that starts tonight, but churches are permitted to have services as long as people stay six feet apart. How the fuck are they supposed to do that?
 
Jokodo said:
J842P said:
Yeah, I feel lucky living in San Francisco and we've been in at least "shelter in place" since May 16. I'm not super worried about myself, though. My parents are another story, particularly my father, who is in his mid 70s with diabetes and some lung damage from an infection he contracted when he worked all over the world in his 50s.

They live right at the edge of Looney Country. Thankfully, Northern VA seems to be doing well.

But I worry.
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Since May 16? 2019?
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Bah. May, March, same shit.
 
Maybe we won't all die

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/04/03/veteran-survived-coronavirus/


When William “Bill” Lapschies celebrated his 104th birthday with his family over chocolate cake and his favorite pizza on Wednesday, he wasn’t just marking another annual milestone in his long, full life. He was also celebrating a full recovery from the novel coronavirus as one of the oldest-known survivors of covid-19 in the United States.
In early March, Lapschies and a small group of elderly tenants living together in a state-run veterans’ facility in Lebanon, Ore., started feeling ill. They were among the first Oregon residents to test positive for the coronavirus, and Lapschies’s family worried the illness would prove deadly.
“We all thought, ‘He’s 103, what are the odds he’s going to come out of this?’ ” granddaughter Jamie Yutzie told The Washington Post.
The coronavirus is particularly deadly among older people, who suffer fatal complications at a higher rate than young people who catch it, but some elderly patients have beat it. A 95-year-old man, also in Oregon, recovered last month after mild symptoms. In Seattle, a 90-year-old woman recovered after catching the virus at the Life Care Center senior facility, the hardest-hit nursing home in the early days of the U.S. outbreak.
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J842P said:
Yeah, I feel lucky living in San Francisco and we've been in at least "shelter in place" since May 16. I'm not super worried about myself, though. My parents are another story, particularly my father, who is in his mid 70s with diabetes and some lung damage from an infection he contracted when he worked all over the world in his 50s.

They live right at the edge of Looney Country. Thankfully, Northern VA seems to be doing well.

But I worry.
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Hey, time traveler, how about a report as to what treatment works?
 
southernhybrid said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/04/03/veteran-survived-coronavirus/


When William “Bill” Lapschies celebrated his 104th birthday with his family over chocolate cake and his favorite pizza on Wednesday, he wasn’t just marking another annual milestone in his long, full life. He was also celebrating a full recovery from the novel coronavirus as one of the oldest-known survivors of covid-19 in the United States.
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Does this indicate that if someone had the immune system to live through the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic then there is a good chance they can handle this pandemic too? :devil:
 
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