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GOP: The party of idiots

Ford said:
My entire post was a full-frontal attack on Trump's idiocy, but somehow the offhand (and frankly hilarious) names I assigned to the two most prominent female members of the GOP "Freedom Caucus" were extracted and made the topic of discussion. I insult Trump's "intelligence," point out that the entire Grand Old Party has embraced his idiocy, but all of a sudden it's "how DARE you attack these women!!!"? That's an odd flex.
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Cheap insults are the basest form of political discourse, no matter the target.

I am observing that whenever any female politician comes to any sort of real prominence in this country, she will most assuredly be either slut-shamed, damned as an ice queen who emasulates her husband, or both. It's reliable as the sun, it comes from both parties, and it traps us perpetually in last century's moralizing.

But like, dude, it's fine. The entire rest of the forum is rising to your defense. It's no insult, really, to be called sexist or racist by the forum's craziest leftist. I baselessly attack people all the time, everyone knows that. To be the glancing subject of one of my absurd, unjustifiable diatribes is almost a reassurance that you are, in fact, a normal person with normal views. Take solace in just how many people think you've done nothing at all wrtong, and are pissed at me instead. The American Left is with you, my friend. You have won.
 
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Politesse said:
Clearly I'm lowering the standard of discourse by accusing you of using sexist slurs when you only intended personal ones that just so happen to be applied to female politicians way more often than male ones.
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It’s likely that the crude insults directed solely towards Trump in these forums far exceed the combined remarks about female politicians. That may even be true if you only counted the comments about the size of his penis. Throw in remarks about McConnell, Gaetz, Gym Jordan, etc., and it’s a landslide.
 
"When they go low, we go high" doesn't work with MAGAt leaders. Their standard is sadistic belittling, and that is exactly what they deserve back. If you give no respect to others, that is the coin you should be paid in. Our late night comedians are doing something healthy for the country when they mock these inflated tadpoles.
 
Politesse said:
Ford said:
My entire post was a full-frontal attack on Trump's idiocy, but somehow the offhand (and frankly hilarious) names I assigned to the two most prominent female members of the GOP "Freedom Caucus" were extracted and made the topic of discussion. I insult Trump's "intelligence," point out that the entire Grand Old Party has embraced his idiocy, but all of a sudden it's "how DARE you attack these women!!!"? That's an odd flex.
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Cheap insults are the basest form of political discourse, no matter the target.

Merely observing that whenever a female politician comes to any sort prominence in this country, she will most assuredly be either slut-shamed, damned as an ice queen who emasulates her husband, or both. It's reliable as the sun, and it comes from both parties.
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As to the first part, yes. I have already admitted to being disrespectful and crude. That's kind of the entire point of this thread, after all. Calling Republicans idiots.

Yet in the second part, you're attaching meaning to my posts that is entirely of your own creation. Again, you are accusing me of attacking MTG and LB for no other fact than that they are women. I counter that I'm insulting them because they are idiots. Perhaps you could instruct me as to how I could call them idiots without insulting their gender? Because I am at a loss as to how to do this.
 
Ford said:
Politesse said:
Ford said:
My entire post was a full-frontal attack on Trump's idiocy, but somehow the offhand (and frankly hilarious) names I assigned to the two most prominent female members of the GOP "Freedom Caucus" were extracted and made the topic of discussion. I insult Trump's "intelligence," point out that the entire Grand Old Party has embraced his idiocy, but all of a sudden it's "how DARE you attack these women!!!"? That's an odd flex.
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Cheap insults are the basest form of political discourse, no matter the target.

Merely observing that whenever a female politician comes to any sort prominence in this country, she will most assuredly be either slut-shamed, damned as an ice queen who emasulates her husband, or both. It's reliable as the sun, and it comes from both parties.
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As to the first part, yes. I have already admitted to being disrespectful and crude. That's kind of the entire point of this thread, after all. Calling Republicans idiots.

Yet in the second part, you're attaching meaning to my posts that is entirely of your own creation. Again, you are accusing me of attacking MTG and LB for no other fact than that they are women. I counter that I'm insulting them because they are idiots. Perhaps you could instruct me as to how I could call them idiots without insulting their gender? Because I am at a loss as to how to do this.
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Why correct anything? Nearly everyone agrees that you've done nothing at all wrong.
 
Politesse said:
Ford said:
My entire post was a full-frontal attack on Trump's idiocy, but somehow the offhand (and frankly hilarious) names I assigned to the two most prominent female members of the GOP "Freedom Caucus" were extracted and made the topic of discussion. I insult Trump's "intelligence," point out that the entire Grand Old Party has embraced his idiocy, but all of a sudden it's "how DARE you attack these women!!!"? That's an odd flex.
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Cheap insults are the basest form of political discourse, no matter the target.

I am observing that whenever any female politician comes to any sort of real prominence in this country, she will most assuredly be either slut-shamed, damned as an ice queen who emasulates her husband, or both. It's reliable as the sun, it comes from both parties, and it traps us perpetually in last century's moralizing.

But like, dude, it's fine. The entire rest of the forum is rising to your defense. It's no insult, really, to be called sexist or racist by the forum's craziest leftist. I baselessly attack people all the time, everyone knows that. To be the glancing subject of one of my absurd, unjustifiable diatribes is almost a reassurance that you are, in fact, a normal person with normal views. Take solace in just how many people think you've done nothing at all wrtong, and are pissed at me instead. The American Left is with you, my friend. You have won.
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You may have a point in what you say, but this sort of passive-aggressive response is in itself a bit irritating, if you don’t mind the observation.
 
Politesse said:

But like, dude, it's fine. The entire rest of the forum is rising to your defense. It's no insult, really, to be called sexist or racist by the forum's craziest leftist. I baselessly attack people all the time, everyone knows that. To be the glancing subject of one of my absurd, unjustifiable diatribes is almost a reassurance that you are, in fact, a normal person with normal views. Take solace in just how many people think you've done nothing at all wrtong, and are pissed at me instead. The American Left is with you, my friend. You have won.
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So you added this bit while I was responding to your earlier edit.

When I was in college back in the 80s (when misogyny was rampant and Reagan was President) a classmate of mine had a riposte that has stuck with me to this day. In the midst of a heated discussion, he said "dude...take a laxative."

It took me a minute to figure out what he meant, but he was wise beyond his years.
 
pood said:
Politesse said:
Ford said:
My entire post was a full-frontal attack on Trump's idiocy, but somehow the offhand (and frankly hilarious) names I assigned to the two most prominent female members of the GOP "Freedom Caucus" were extracted and made the topic of discussion. I insult Trump's "intelligence," point out that the entire Grand Old Party has embraced his idiocy, but all of a sudden it's "how DARE you attack these women!!!"? That's an odd flex.
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Cheap insults are the basest form of political discourse, no matter the target.

I am observing that whenever any female politician comes to any sort of real prominence in this country, she will most assuredly be either slut-shamed, damned as an ice queen who emasulates her husband, or both. It's reliable as the sun, it comes from both parties, and it traps us perpetually in last century's moralizing.

But like, dude, it's fine. The entire rest of the forum is rising to your defense. It's no insult, really, to be called sexist or racist by the forum's craziest leftist. I baselessly attack people all the time, everyone knows that. To be the glancing subject of one of my absurd, unjustifiable diatribes is almost a reassurance that you are, in fact, a normal person with normal views. Take solace in just how many people think you've done nothing at all wrtong, and are pissed at me instead. The American Left is with you, my friend. You have won.
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You may have a point in what you say, but this sort of passive-aggressive response is in itself a bit irritating, if you don’t mind the observation.
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Yes, I am highly irritating. Often right, but highly irritating. If society didn't want bitchy gays, they shouldn't have killed off all the nice ones.
 
The video in post 19. Is there anything more revealing about what the GOP has become? I'm very curious what these two cognitively impaired individuals do for a living. This is the republican base.
 
The former Governor of Louisiana, Bobby Jindal, made his bones in the GOP as a policy wonk. He was cast in the model of old time Republicans, back in the day when the GOP pitch was, "We know what we're doing. Put us in charge and you can relax. We've got this covered." He was a Rhodes Scholar, so that shout count for something. He spent time in state government admin, did a few years doing the same in Washington. This gave him the resume to get elected to Congress and run for Governor. He lost the first election, which was his good fortune. While he sat safely in Congress, Hurricane Katrina hit Louisiana and made the current Governor appear helpless and hapless. JIndal won the next election with his "vote for the smart guy" campaign.

It was supposed to be a ticket to the White House, but his "cut taxes and stand back to watch the economy grow" strategy was a dismal failure. He took his pledge to Grover Norquist so seriously, when a tax on cigarettes was renewed by the Legislature, he vetoed it and created a shortfall in the State Health system.

Despite the failure of his smart guy agenda, none of that is the reason he is no longer in politics. In 2013, he started on his journey to the White House with a speech before the RNC, which declared "We have to stop being the party of stupid." That didn't go over well. For a smart guy, he never grasped the idea that the GOP had become dependent on the stupid voter. They had lost the educated voter and had to turn to the disgruntled angry voter, the kind of person who could be distracted by talk about immigrants taking jobs, without ever asking what job was being taken. It was the same for tax cuts. If you tell them that a tax cut means the economy will grow, they have no reason to doubt it, because that's a college level course.

It might be harsh to call the GOP, "The party of idiots", but that's what you get when you operate as the "party of stupid" for 12 years.
 
Bronzeage said:
It might be harsh to call the GOP, "The party of idiots", but that's what you get when you operate as the "party of stupid" for 12 years.
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I remember when the GOP used to be the "smart guy" party. When Bill Buckley used to go on PBS to debate liberals with his erudite proclamations. Back then, the "left" were the "tree-hugging" party. The emotional folks who were mocked for saying "can't we all just get along?!" The Democrats had folk music and "Flower Power." The conservatives were the party of hard reason. Of unflinching adherence to reality. Of using big words like "erudite" and "adherence."

I remember this, because I was a Republican back then.

Now? The GOP is the party of "feelings." They don't think things through. They just "know" they're right. The party of "yeah, you college boys have your big fancy words, but I got my guns and my flag, and Trump is gonna make all you libs pay!"

The party with an ideology - and a platform - that can fit on a hat.

The really sad part is that - at least until the 1980s - Republicans were able to compromise with the tree-hugging liberals. Reagan and Tip O'Neill sitting down to have a beer and knock out policies. The attitude of "I disagree with you, but I will defend to the death your right to disagree." Back when I was a Republican in college, I had two friends from the opposite sides of the political divide. One was a Republican who checked all the boxes. Blue suit, power tie, slicked back hair, glad-handing everyone. The other was a big, sloppy lovable liberal with an ill-fitting suit and messy hair, but good intentions. We were all friends, despite the fact that we disagreed on politics.

That's not possible today.
 
TomC said:
Politesse said:
Yes, I am highly irritating. Often right, but highly irritating. If society didn't want bitchy gays, they shouldn't have killed off all the nice ones.
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Society hasn't killed me off...

Oh wait
Tom
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Are you sure? You could be dead. Are you drawn to Dealey Plaza? You're just not deep enough into conspiracy thinking - yet - like those idiots in the video posted earlier. Fake pulse!

Keep up the good work. :cool: :cool:
 
Derec said:
Which "victim of school shooting" do you mean? If you mean the porcine one, she confronted him in his capacity as an activist. And I do not think he was wounded during the shooting, so calling him a "victim" is a bit much.
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so only the shot or wounded are victims of school shootings? What about the girl who had to cover herself with her dead friend’s blood to avoid getting killed herself? should she not portray herself as a “victim”?
 
Politesse said:
Ford said:
And...I can't believe I have to say this, but...compared to Marjorie Trailer Queen and Congresswoman Handjob,
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Jesus Christ, politics brings out the quiet misogyny of the "Left". No wonder these fucking political parties are falling apart.
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He's singling out the most boneheaded notoriety amongst them, I don't see misogyny here. The other one so notorious typically gets attacked on his fascism but he's not in power right now.
 
Derec said:
Ford said:
I mean, I'll cop to being disrespectful, but you're clearly misreading what I said about them as not just disrespectful, but a "slur." Specifically a sexist slur. As was pointed out above, the comments I made had noting to do with their gender, but rather their actions and the public personas they themselves have adopted.
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Question: do you apply the same standards to left-wing politicians? When, for example, Kamala Harris was called "Heels Up Harris" there was a lot of outcry over it on here. Do you think that's fine?
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What indication do we have of loose sexual behavior on her part? What in her public history makes "heels up" relevant rather than just an anti-female insult?
Derec said:
And is the gentle lady from Georgia (who once filmed herself harassing the victim of a school shooting) somehow immune from being called names by virtue of her gender?
Which "victim of school shooting" do you mean? If you mean the porcine one, she confronted him in his capacity as an activist. And I do not think he was wounded during the shooting, so calling him a "victim" is a bit much.
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Even without being harmed living through an event that traumatic can be enough to trigger PTSD. I think "victim" is appropriate.

Derec said:
Also, what does that incident have to do with your moniker for her? And is there any evidence she ever lived in a trailer park? Or are you just mocking her based on falsehoods?

Something like "Trice Evicted" Cori Bush is much more fitting. First, it is true - she was evicted three times. And it has something to do with criticism of her policies like the stunt she pulled to pressure Biden into extending a policy he knew he had no authority to do.
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1) That word does not mean what you think it means. Check your spelling.

2) While I presume true it has no connection to her public persona or actions while in office.
 
laughing dog said:
Politesse said:
I'm not saying I love Green, Boebert, and the rest. But the language that sits beneath a person's tongue, just waiting to describe someone "bad enough" to "deserve" a sexist, racist, or classist slur says more about them than they realize.
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Since handjobs can be performed by any gendered person with at least one hand, I don’t understand the sexist slur conclusion because “Congresswoman” is the appropriate honorific.

Even if I were single, I wouldn’t let MTG touch any part of my body for any reason whatsoever.
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I agree about not letting either of them touch me, but you're mixing up your vermin. MTG isn't Congresswoman Handjob. That dishonorific belongs to that nut from Colorado that has the female version of my name. (And for any newcomers: When I was born "Loren" was male but quite rare, "Lauren" was female and a lot more common. Now there is no male version, but I remain a cis with standard male anatomy that is very routinely misgendered. Fortunately, I don't care.)

I just did a simple test:

Google "Congresswoman handjob". I get a screen full of links to news of the incident that earned her that dishonorific.

"Heels up Harris". I get a bunch of sites selling items bearing this, it takes some looking to even find what it's supposed to be about and that was contested.

That says a lot to me about how warranted the names are.
 
Loren Pechtel said:
Derec said:
Ford said:
I mean, I'll cop to being disrespectful, but you're clearly misreading what I said about them as not just disrespectful, but a "slur." Specifically a sexist slur. As was pointed out above, the comments I made had noting to do with their gender, but rather their actions and the public personas they themselves have adopted.
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Question: do you apply the same standards to left-wing politicians? When, for example, Kamala Harris was called "Heels Up Harris" there was a lot of outcry over it on here. Do you think that's fine?
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What indication do we have of loose sexual behavior on her part? What in her public history makes "heels up" relevant rather than just an anti-female insult?
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presumably, Derec believes she slept her way into her career positions and did not earn them through merit.
 
As long as liberals and Democrats focus on sexual innuendo for what makes Republicans look like idiots, they make themselves look like idiots for focusing on that rather than the idiotic things that Republicans really do.
 
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