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Jason Harvestdancer
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So you admit you are speaking gibberish. Congratulations.
Under the premise "all words are made up", what warrants inclusion in a dictionary? Why is your word not there?
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It is a self-evident analytic truth, but I will defend it anyway. It is also my brown lived experience, which your own philosophy says you aren't allowed to argue against.
The Democratic Party is the party that says minorities cannot get ahead unless there are special government programs put in place to assist them.
The Democratic Party is the one that has politicians simplify their speech when talking to minorities.
The Democratic Party is the one with individuals supporting segregated schools.
The Democratic Party is the one with individuals who use racial slurs whenever a minority dares to not be Democrat.
The Democratic Party is the one that tells people they have to vote according to their race. Moreover it was a very prominent Democrat who claimed that failure to vote for him means one isn't a minority.
The Democratic Party is the party of gun control, a policy initiated to keep firearms out of the hands of minorities.
The Democratic Party is the one with politicians so focused on race they want quotas for corporate boards.
The Democratic Party is the one that had activists come up with "the Progressive Stack". Also the term "BIPOC" which highlights two minority groups in particular, treating everyone else as merely "POC". But hey, the POC part are all brown so they must all think alike.
The Democratic Party is the one that has members using vile racial slurs when minorities dare to dissent from the party line. Take Justice Thomac, often called an "Uncle Clarence Thomas" for daring to not vote according to his skin color.
That's just surface level. Now if you think about the philosophy "the purpose of a system is what it does", things get worse.
Under that philosophy, what we normally think of as failed government programs aren't actually so, because if they actually failed they'd be cut. What they do now is what they are supposed to do. Walter Williams penned many a fine essay about how Great Society programs have destroyed the black family and the black community. Now who are the strongest defenders of those programs?
The Republicans have a different collectivist dichotomy, which is Citizen v. Foreigner. It divides people into groups based not on race but nationality, and consider foreigners to be lesser. The Democrats constantly tip their own hands when saying "they're secretly talking about race" by showing they equate "lesser" with "race". No, the Republicans are quite content to divide simply along the lines of citizenship, and they do, and they love dropping bombs on those with different citizenship. That Dick Cheney endorsed Kamala Harris over Donald Trump shows that he believes Harris would drop more bombs than Trump would.
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Because most of us have little better to do than kvetch after some very transparent bait.
Gibberish? I had no problem at all understanding it when saw it used.
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Too many libberpublicans complained.
They’re pretty much snowflakes.
Tough titty.
Jason Harvestdancer
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Who are the libberpublicans who complained? Give names.
Elixir
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You just made that up.
At least libberpublican’s meaning arises directly from onomatopoeia.
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Libberpublican is a portmanteau.
Onomatopoeia means "an un-housetrained puppy", because it's a word that means exactly what it sounds like.
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Almost every claim above is 100 percent false, and the few that have a one-night stand with reality are misleading.
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The Democratic Party says that exactly nowhere and no when.
Evidence for this extraordinarily idiotic and false claim?
100 percent false, of course.
Evidence? Cite? Anything at all to back up this transparent idiocy?
Absolutely false on both counts. The second thing was Biden joking, but it contained a kernel of truth.
So minorities and non minorities need AK-47s, to, say, slaughter more schoolchildren? Democrats are in favor of banning weapons of horrific destruction in the hands of any individual, and in no way wish to repeal the Second Amendment rights of any individual.
Cite?
No idea what the above is about.
If you have instances of individual Democrats using “vile racial slurs” when minorities dissent from the party line, then cite them or STFU. Bear in mind that if any person, Democrat or Republican or LIbberpublican uses a vile racial slur for any reason, it does not follow that all members of their party are guilty of said racial slur.
Will dissect the rest of this trash later.
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Why? It’s virtually impossible to tell them apart. They can be easily identified, but not differentiated, by the bullshit they spew.
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Independents don't lack opinions, nor do we lack policy preferences. Most of us lean more toward one side or the other, but almost all of us have a *mix* of positions. There are some conservative positions that I favor - gun rights is up toward the top of that list. There are some liberal positions that I favor - comprehensive publicly funded education is one. Almost all independents hold a mix of views that aren't all on one side or the other.
What makes us independent is a lack of party loyalty, and a lack of dedication to one side or the other. We generally tend to think that the sides are stupid, ineffective, and divisive. Most independents have a history of NOT voting along party lines. Our ballots tend to reflect a mix of choices. I've voted for a mix of presidents, some of whom were Republican, some of whom were Democrats, some were Third Parties. I've tended toward Republican senators and Democrat representatives. I tend toward more liberal candidates in social and educational roles within my state, and more conservative candidates in fiscal and judiciary roles. I've never voted a single party straight down the line, because my mix of personal values doesn't lend itself to that... and I think it's just plain dumb to do so.
I'm absolutely NOT interested in having a single party have dominance in government. I WANT a mix, even if it's a contentious mix.
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You can't pick and choose which flippant replies will do. This place is full to the brim of flippant unevidenced assertions, why pick this one to take umbrage with?
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Sure sure, and how can you tell that the color you know by the name "blue" is the same color that I know by the name "blue"? It could totally be different colors that we're seeing, but because we know them by the same name, we can't tell! And also, we might be totally living in a really complex computer simulation that's so good we can't tell it's a simulation.
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What's the difference between the logical flaws that you identify here... and the exact same argumentative framework used by several members of IIDB when they talk about Republicans? I mean, it's literally the exact same argument put forth - that Republicans are the more racist party, and therefore that any given member of the Republican party is racist.
Although usually it's more extreme than that, and pretty much asserts that anyone who doesn't continually and actively demonize every Republican as being a completely irredeemable racists is also a racist.
ETA: For clarity - the flaws you point out are accurately identified, but your application of those rules of logic seem to be highly biased.
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Don't use stoned tenth-grader logic.
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The observation that launched a thousand phenomenological studies.
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You;'re not wrong... but I'll also point out that the tendency to accurately identify a fallacy when it's used by one group, while failing to identify the exact same fallacy when used by a different group is itself a fallacy.