Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

My wife and I experimented yesterday by checking both CNN and Fox for coverage of the racist tweet. We observed what we expected. Fox had less coverage, actually no coverage we could see of the original tweet. Instead, focused on later non-racist tweets. Then, also focused negatively on the Dems. We saw things like "Democrats move Further to the Left." CNN was sure to cover the actual, original tweet and call it what it is--racism. They also covered AOC and the others giving their response. I did not see the response at all on Fox, but I could have missed it. It was on several times, replaying on CNN.

 

[lpetrich]

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "Authoritarians rely on mass distortion of reality to further concentrate their power, and they will take advantage of anyone and anything to meet that end. https://t.co/hhrHESapr5" / Twitter noting
Daniel Dale on Twitter: "Those are not Omar’s or Ocasio-Cortez’s poll numbers in their districts or in the country. Trump was referring to a poll of...white likely voters with 2 years or less of college. Axios published it without saying who did it or provided it, and without full details. https://t.co/ZbRkTVAnkQ" / Twitter - it said that AOC was recognized by 74%, viewed favorably by 22%. Ilhan Omar was recognized by 53%, viewed favorably by 9%

Donald J. Trump on Twitter: "Those Tweets were NOT Racist. I don’t have a Racist bone in my body! The so-called vote to be taken is a Democrat con game. Republicans should not show “weakness” and fall into their trap. This should be a vote on the filthy language, statements and lies told by the Democrat....." / Twitter
Donald J. Trump on Twitter: ".....Congresswomen, who I truly believe, based on their actions, hate our Country. Get a list of the HORRIBLE things they have said. Omar is polling at 8%, Cortez at 21%. Nancy Pelosi tried to push them away, but now they are forever wedded to the Democrat Party. See you in 2020!" / Twitter

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "You’re right, Mr. President - you don’t have a racist bone in your body.
You have a racist mind in your head, and a racist heart in your chest.
That’s why you violate the rights of children and tell the Congresswoman who represents your home borough, to “go back to my country.” https://t.co/adlCUO7r0v" / Twitter

Someone calling her "America's Official Clown": she "never had a child, never been married, never run a business, never run a home, never managed people, never served on a local committee, no real-life experience. But at 29 she wants to tell us what the governments needs to do with our economy!" Except that she was once involved in starting a business, though without much success.

 

[KeepTalking]

He deserves the 25th Amendment to be invoked on him. Nancy Pelosi ought to support impeaching him, or else she should make a big show about how terrible it is to impeach him and how helpless she is to keep it from happening, while allowing it to happen.

There's no point in impeaching him because the scumbags in the Senate won't do their job.

Really? Do you refuse to do your job just because someone down the line may not do their job? Or, do you do your job because it is your job, and let other people worry about others not doing their job?

If it is the right thing to do to impeach, then it should be done whether or not the Senate will see it through.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

He deserves the 25th Amendment to be invoked on him. Nancy Pelosi ought to support impeaching him, or else she should make a big show about how terrible it is to impeach him and how helpless she is to keep it from happening, while allowing it to happen.

There's no point in impeaching him because the scumbags in the Senate won't do their job.

Really? Do you refuse to do your job just because someone down the line may not do their job?

May not? You mean "definitely won't even if God came from the sky and demanded it", right?

Or, do you do your job because it is your job, and let other people worry about others not doing their job?

Impeachment is a two House process. What benefit is there is the Senate makes with a show trial and acquits Trump? People, the blessed undecided voters, who while lower in numbers than stated, really do have their hands on the wheel with state results being so tight, could actually infer that the Dems are indeed trying to politically ruin Trump for partisan gain.

If it is the right thing to do to impeach, then it should be done whether or not the Senate will see it through.

The right thing to do is grind the majority of the GOP into sausage. But that'd be against the law.

 

[KeepTalking]

Really? Do you refuse to do your job just because someone down the line may not do their job?

May not? You mean "definitely won't even if God came from the sky and demanded it", right?

Either way, I will do my job, so that I am not on the hook for not having done my job. It is then on those down the line as to whether they want to take the heat for not doing their job.

Or, do you do your job because it is your job, and let other people worry about others not doing their job?

Impeachment is a two House process. What benefit is there is the Senate makes with a show trial and acquits Trump? People, the blessed undecided voters, who while lower in numbers than stated, really do have their hands on the wheel with state results being so tight, could actually infer that the Dems are indeed trying to politically ruin Trump for partisan gain.

The benefit is the impeachment process itself, it will get the information out that the public needs to see. At that point, they would hopefully come to the realization that the Senate really does need to do their job, and will hold them accountable.

If it is the right thing to do to impeach, then it should be done whether or not the Senate will see it through.

The right thing to do is grind the majority of the GOP into sausage. But that'd be against the law.

I won't disagree with you there.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

The White House doesn't respond to subpoenas. I'm not certain the House could actually perform an impeachment... not in the time left.

 

[lpetrich]

Opinion: AOC and the Democrats gave Trump the fight he was looking for - Los Angeles Times - arguing that tRump was trolling the Democrats and forcing them to get behind their most controversial members.

So Trump wants to run against something scarier than he is, which is why he has been trying so hard for months to paint Democrats as radical socialists — or worse. You think tariffs are bad? How would you like five-year plans?

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Democrats are being played here. They can’t ignore Trump’s attacks and hang the Squad out to dry. But if they become the party of socialism lite, they open the door to another four years of Trump and, potentially, a return to complete GOP control of Congress.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "This decision is an injustice. It is further proof we have a criminal justice system that grants some families justice, yet denies it to others.
My heart breaks for @RealGwenCarr, Eric’s mother. Let us follow her words & example, and work for a system where #BlackLivesMatter. https://t.co/ONyoDAYWFm" / Twitter noting
CBS News on Twitter: "WATCH: Eric Garner's mother reacts to no federal charges for NYPD officer in fatal chokehold: "You could push back, but we’re gonna push forward, this is not the end." [url]https://t.co/5X2QK640kT https://t.co/1EOiT7cKlt" / Twitter[/url]

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "My mom was a domestic worker - she cleaned houses to support our family.
As a little girl, I grew up reading books on other people’s staircases. I did homework on other people’s dinner tables.
Today, as a Congresswoman, I’m proud to cosponsor the Domestic Worker Bill of Rights. https://t.co/s2ByRFJQKj" / Twitter noting
Domestic Workers on Twitter: "WOW: Hear @AOC share her story of watching her mom clean houses when she was a kid. She has so much pride when she talks about her mother’s work — and that’s why she supports the Bill of Rights.
Domestic worker women are strong and powerful — and their kids are too! https://t.co/5bLdeniIBy" / Twitter

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "This major House bill is being led by @RepJayapal. She’s fighting for women like my mom and girls like me.
Learn more about it below https://t.co/il8qndFpv3" / Twitter noting
Rep. Pramila Jayapal on Twitter: "Today I was so proud to introduce landmark legislation, the National #DomesticWorkersBillofRights, that will bring critical protections and respect to 2.5 million domestic workers across the country. Let's do this! https://t.co/7fEp1U8qnP" / Twitter noting
Domestic Workers on Twitter: "Thank you @senkamalaharris and @repjayapal for valuing care work and the people who do it. They’ve introduced the national #DomesticWorkersBillofRights — a landmark bill bringing #Dignity4AllWorkers. https://t.co/zKUnPVC2KR" / Twitter

 

[Cheerful Charlie]

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly......

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Maybe Trump can do something about the failing states of the US. Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi et al. States last in education achievement (and spending). All parasite states that depend on the largess of the federal government and blue donor states. High violent crime rates. Failing infrastructure. Rural areas resembling third world countries. Bad health care systems and infant mortality rates similar to failed nations. Failed state leadership under the GOP. The Southern basket case states. Put up or shut up Von Clownstick.

 

[lpetrich]

White supremacists cheer Trump's racist tweets - CNNPolitics

Man, President Trump's Twitter account has been pure fire lately. This might be the funniest thing he's ever tweeted. This is the kind of WHITE NATIONALISM we elected him for," wrote Andrew Anglin on his Daily Stormer site -- one of the most highly trafficked neo-Nazi websites.
"And we're obviously seeing it only because there's another election coming up. But I'll tell you, even knowing that, it still feels so good."

White nationalists had become openly frustrated by Trump recently for the failure to build a border wall and the lack of a promised immigration crackdown. "With a single tweet, Trump was able to win back the sizeable deluded portion of the Alt-Right, eager to take another trip on the merry-go-round," prominent white nationalist Richard Spencer wrote on Twitter. ...

Trump also received support from a well-known white supremacist organizer who goes by the name "Augustus Invictus."

On 8chan and Gab, some far-right-wingers posted things like

"Anti-white politicians come to our country. Rather than kissing the soil and feeling grateful, they desire to remove our borders, speech, monuments, firearms, flags, and every single other part of US culture," one poster wrote. "Why the F*** are they in the US in the first place if they can't do the bare minimum of adopting US values?"

... The commenter wrote it would be a big step forward to normalize an idea that "it is ok for him not to want to be swamped by brown scum that clearly despise him, that these invaders have stepped well out of line making demands of us, and that if they don't like the way we run things they can go the hell back," the poster wrote. "These are the ideological seeds from which actual revolutions begin. When someone with perceived authority like Trump comes along and says them, it carries weight with many people. The jewish media is right to be terrified of these ideas becoming normalized."

 

[lpetrich]

Donald Trump racist tweets: Tells four Democrats to “go back.” - Vox by Matthew Yglesias

And his main idea seems to have been to echo an argument that Tucker Carlson made the previous week specifically about Omar — that it’s dangerous for the United States to accept into its midst refugees who grow up to be critical of aspects of American culture rather than grateful cheerleaders for it.

n this view, the “good” kind of refugee would be someone like the Cuban exiles or Vietnamese “boat people” who fled communism in a Cold War context and then tended to become Republicans and foreign policy hawks, in contrast to Muslim refugees (or perhaps Central American asylum seekers) who are not politically reliable.

Philip Klein on Twitter: "Trump's racist tweets, in addition to being awful in their own right, managed to throw a life raft to Dems who can now unify around condemning his comments." / Twitter

Trump's racist tweets: House votes to condemn president with GOP support

The vote on the resolution condemning a series of Trump’s remarks and Twitter posts came after a dramatic and combative hours-long debate that hit several snags due to long-standing House rules that prohibit any personal attacks on the president.

Pelosi, the Squad, and a Fight Over Trump on the House Floor - The Atlantic

In his racist attacks on four Democratic congresswomen of color, Donald Trump violated the norms of civilized public discourse in ways no modern president has come close to doing. And in their effort to condemn the president’s virulent remarks, the House Democratic majority dispensed—by raw party-line vote—with parliamentary niceties dating to the pen of Thomas Jefferson himself.

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There is hardly moral equivalence between Trump’s norm-shattering comments about the congresswomen and Pelosi’s protocol-pushing insistence that the president’s words were racist. But there was just enough uncomfortable overlap to prove once again Trump’s singular genius: his ability, through his own relentless uncouth behavior, to goad others into actions that leave them subject to criticism as well. The day’s events showed, yet again, how singularly unable establishment Washington is, with all its rules and decorum, to cope with a presidency like Trump’s.

Then the details of the squabble over doing so. Doug Collins (R-GA) requested that NP rephrase her proposal, calling it "unparliamentary" to accuse the president of being a racist. At one point, presiding officer Emanuel Cleaver (D-MO) walked off of the House rostrum because he didn't like the squabbling. Maority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) proposed that "characterizing an action as ‘racist’ is not in order" under House rules, and that NP's remarks should be deleted from the record. By a strict party-line vote, the House decided to keep those words.

Near the end of the debate, Democratic Representative John Lewis of Georgia, one of the last living icons of the civil-rights movement—whose skull was fractured by state troopers on Bloody Sunday in Selma, Alabama—was unblinking in summing up the stakes of the argument over Trump. “I know racism when I see it,” he told his colleagues. “I know racism when I feel it. And at the highest level of government, there’s no room for racism. The world is watching. They are shocked and dismayed because it seems we have lost our way as a nation.”

By day’s end, the original measure condemning Trump passed easily, 240-187, with just four Republicans and the chamber’s lone independent, Justin Amash of Michigan, voting with the Democrats.

Pelosi accomplished what she’d set out to do: make clear to Americans that the House majority uniformly rejects the president’s invective. But rather than grapple with the substance of what Trump actually said, Republican lawmakers chose to focus on the speaker’s breach of protocol and turn their outrage back on the Democrats.

Peter Turchin Ages of Discord - Peter Turchin, Peter Turchin Age of Discord II - Peter Turchin

Just like the mid to late 19th cy., another disintegrative period. Pulling ourselves out of it will be difficult, but it was done the first time around.

 

[Half-Life]

C'mon! Stop reaching! Those tweets were not racist. The left brands everything as racist so there is nothing to see here. He even said, "they can leave and they can come back if they want to." So racist! he even invited them to come back!

A reporter even said, "White nationalists agreed with your tweets." So, that means Trump is racist?

This is like calling a vegetarian a "Nazi" because Hitler was a vegetarian.

 

[Arctish]

C'mon! Stop reaching! Those tweets were not racist. The left brands everything as racist so there is nothing to see here. He even said, "they can leave and they can come back if they want to." So racist! he even invited them to come back!

A reporter even said, "White nationalists agreed with your tweets." So, that means Trump is racist?

This is like calling a vegetarian a "Nazi" because Hitler was a vegetarian.

I don't know if you realize this, but most of the posters here were born and raised in the 20th century. We know what racism looks and sounds like, especially those of us who remember conservatives bloviating about mixed marriages and voting rights in the 1960s.

"Go back where you came from" is most definitely a racist dog whistle coming from Trump, a 73 year old man who used to refuse to rent to blacks so his fellow white racists would pay more for 'exclusive' apartments.

 

[Derec]

"Go back where you came from"

You forgot the "and come back" part of the tweets.

 

[Half-Life]

I don't know if you realize this, but most of the posters here were born and raised in the 20th century. We know what racism looks and sounds like, especially those of us who remember conservatives bloviating about mixed marriages and voting rights in the 1960s.

"Go back where you came from" is most definitely a racist dog whistle coming from Trump, a 73 year old man who used to refuse to rent to blacks so his fellow white racists would pay more for 'exclusive' apartments.

Come to think of it, taking more money from people does not mean he's a racist. Questionable business practice? Sure. But, he was motivated by the money. What do you think would happen if a black man offered to pay more money than a white guy?

 

[Arctish]

"Go back where you came from"

You forgot the "and come back" part of the tweets.

You aren't fooling anyone. Neither is Trump. He only acts like an ignorant buffoon because he's a bullshitter, a grifter, and a racist hate monger. He will tweet the same racist spew over and over again, getting louder and more bombastic by the minute, and his base will lap it up like it's beef in gravy.

 

[Arctish]

I don't know if you realize this, but most of the posters here were born and raised in the 20th century. We know what racism looks and sounds like, especially those of us who remember conservatives bloviating about mixed marriages and voting rights in the 1960s.

"Go back where you came from" is most definitely a racist dog whistle coming from Trump, a 73 year old man who used to refuse to rent to blacks so his fellow white racists would pay more for 'exclusive' apartments.

Come to think of it, taking more money from people does not mean he's a racist. Questionable business practice? Sure. But, he was motivated by the money. What do you think would happen if a black man offered to pay more money than a white guy?

It never got to a point where rent was discussed because if a black person came in wanting to rent an apartment, they were told there were none available.

The building managers and superintendents were not allowed to rent to black tenants, period.

Why, you might wonder? Because Trump is a racist who caters to racists. You might even call them his 'base'. I do.

 

[Don2 (Don1 Revised)]

"Go back where you came from"

You forgot the "and come back" part of the tweets.

That is disingenuous. Those later tweets were separate and after backlash for the first tweet. Therefore, the first tweet has to be looked at independently. You already know this. Even taking into account an "...and you can come back," damage control addendum, it doesn't take away identifying natural born citizens as from another country due to skin color or using the phrase in the first place. You already know this. So, why on earth do you want to be an apologist for Hair Furor?

 

[Patooka]

C'mon! Stop reaching! Those tweets were not racist. The left brands everything as racist so there is nothing to see here. He even said, "they can leave and they can come back if they want to." So racist! he even invited them to come back!

Do you agree that it is offensive? Considering that you are fluent in whataboutisms imagine this;if in 2009 Barrack Obama told the Tea Party, "If you don't like what I am doing, you can fuck off. You're welcome to come back", would you find that offensive? Pretty certain you would.

A reporter even said, "White nationalists agreed with your tweets." So, that means Trump is racist?

This is like calling a vegetarian a "Nazi" because Hitler was a vegetarian.

Umm...no. "Hitler agrees with what you are saying" is what it is like. For example, if I found out that you and I agree on something, I would take an introspective moment. I would consider if agreeing with you compromises my ethics and values. If I decided that we are in agreement on whatever this hypothetical is, I would clarify why I agree with you (on this one and only one hypothetical) and then reiterate my ethics and values, so as to dismiss the ambiguity that I might be giving you carte blanche on anything you might subsequently say. Trump has never done that with regards to racists and the reason is obvious; they share the same core ethics and values.

Does that clear things up, or do I have to write in crayon for you?

 

[ZiprHead]

This is from the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission:

 

[Elixir]

No one mentions the fact that this gang of four ARE spewing anti American ...

You're such a sucker, angelo.
You've bought into the completely misguided notion that criticizing Donald Trump's racism, dishonesty, egotism and unbridled greed, makes a person a hater of America.
That's what the Donald wants his drooling sycophants to believe.
I have dire news for you, and them:
DONALD TRUMP IS NOT AMERICA.
He is a symptom of a neurosis that has afflicted certain population pockets within the United States for a century and a half.
I love America - both of my parents have fought for this country in two World Wars, both were Republicans and both would be absolutely horrified by the madman currently sullying the White House.
I love America.
And that is the main reason I HATE DONALD TRUMP.