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Another Fucking Mass Shooting At US School

It is my understanding from some folks on this board that the type of weapon doesn’t matter
That's not actually an understanding, it's just repetition. :)
No no.. I have it on good authority. I mean, if I can't accept the self-proclaimed expertise of people posting on the internet, how can I possibly trust any knowledge at all?
 
Just one killed school student, and one superficially harmed student in the Tennessee shooting. Appeared interested in harming many, but didn't have access to the sort of weapon to make it easier.
What did he use? A musket?
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You can easily commit a mass shooting with any halfway modern firearm.
What prevented more carnage is that the shooter killed himself after he opened fire, rather than keep shooting at the other students. Maybe he felt remorse?
Still no word on if the killed teenager was a target or absurdly unlucky.
Reminds me of this case:
Teenager arrested in Chicago a month after woman killed at North Carolina Walmart
Two teenagers were shooting at two people they knew, and killed an uninvolved woman instead.
So absurd out nation is, this is having trouble remaining front page news.
It's not very different than other shootings that are dime a dozen, like the Walmart one. The only difference is the school setting.
 
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It is my understanding from some folks on this board that the type of weapon doesn’t matter.
Depends on your setting. A confined area like a school is very different than trying to shoot up a concert from a hotel room (like the LV shooter).
A mass shooting can be performed even by a handgun.
Indeed. At close range, like in a school building, firearms are completely adequate for the task. Rifles offer advantage at intermediate range though. But in close quarters, handguns offer the advantage of being smaller and easier to wield.

Take the example of VA Tech. The shooter killed 32 and wounded 17 with a Glock 19 and a Walther P22.
 
Just one killed school student, and one superficially harmed student in the Tennessee shooting. Appeared interested in harming many, but didn't have access to the sort of weapon to make it easier.

It is my understanding from some folks on this board that the type of weapon doesn’t matter. A mass shooting can be performed even by a handgun.

That which has already happened is by definition possible.
 
It is my understanding from some folks on this board that the type of weapon doesn’t matter.
Depends on your setting. A confined area like a school is very different than trying to shoot up a concert from a hotel room (like the LV shooter).
A mass shooting can be performed even by a handgun.
Indeed. At close range, like in a school building, firearms are completely adequate for the task. Rifles offer advantage at intermediate range though. But in close quarters, handguns offer the advantage of being smaller and easier to wield.

Take the example of VA Tech. The shooter killed 32 and wounded 17 with a Glock 19 and a Walther P22.
In close quarters a long barrel can be a liability--it makes it much easier for someone to tackle from the side when you go through a doorway or the like.
 
Mass shooting at a Florida University. At least four shot. That's all I've got so far.
 
Regarding Florida State University...

2 killed and 6 wounded, previously said 2 killed and 5 wounded.

Suspect is Phoenix Ikner, 20 year old son of a deputy. Online social media users are raging against each other claiming he's antifa or he's a Trumper. It does seem like a high chance this was political violence, but we do not have the whole story yet.
 

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Another classmate said Ikner was vocal in their federal politics class, promoting his disturbing views about black people, as well as far-right conspiracy theories, such as that former President Joe Biden was fraudulently elected.

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What we know about the Florida State University shooting suspect
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On Instagram, an account with Ikner’s name and photo that was taken offline after he was publicly identified included a biblical quote on its profile: “You are my war club, my weapon for battle; with you I shatter nations, with you I destroy kingdoms.”

Ikner is a registered Republican, according to Florida voter registration records. He was quoted in January in an FSU student newspaper article about anti-Trump protests in advance of the president’s inauguration.

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Reid Seybold, an FSU student, told CNN he knew Ikner, whom he encountered in an extracurricular political club a few years ago. Seybold said Ikner was asked to leave the group, which discussed current events, due to behavior that unsettled others.

“He had continually made enough people uncomfortable where certain people had stopped coming. That’s kind of when we reached the breaking point with Phoenix, and we asked him to leave,” Seybold told CNN’s Omar Jimenez Thursday.

Seybold said Ikner’s comments went “beyond conservatism.”

“It’s been a couple of years now. I can’t give exact quotes,” he said. “He talked about the ravages of multiculturalism and communism and how it’s ruining America.” ...
 
So when is the good guy with a gun going to stop the bad guy with the gun? Still waiting.......
The shooter was shot by armed police. I think that qualifies.

Derec, are you sure that from your perspective, the shooter was a bad guy? I mean, he looks like Kyle Rittenhouse could look in a couple of years if he tried meth, but just one time, not a lot.
 
Derec, are you sure that from your perspective, the shooter was a bad guy?
Of course he was. Do you disagree?
I mean, he looks like Kyle Rittenhouse could look in a couple of years if he tried meth, but just one time, not a lot.
Based on what? That they are both white? Racist much?

And about you bringing Ritt into this discussion. Ritt killed two Antifas and wounded the third in self defense because they attacked him during a violent riot started by #BLM/Antifa. The situation has nothing to do with this case. Whatsoever.
 
Tell that to the two people murdered.
It is of course tragic that they were murdered, and the other five wounded.
But do you expect police to be everywhere all at once? They responded pretty quickly and ended this rampage.

Contrast this also with many left-wing students demanding "cops off campus". Some leftists also think police should be disarmed. Both would have made this quick response impossible.

So the statement is nonsensical then, and that it be stated that a Good Guy with a gun will eventually help stop the shooting and killing.
This was a pretty good response by the police. They neutralized the threat quickly.

Like with Don2, what do you expect? Police do not have precogs that can anticipate shootings before they happen.
 
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