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Are people already regretting their choice?

Actually, it was a shit ton of loan. In order to thaw the freeze, the big banks had to trust the other big banks had money. So the Government said you are taking this, shut up, you are paying interest back on it. It is clear you have absolutely no idea just how bad it got. Had the Government done nothing, everything was lost. In fact, I'm not even certain anyone would have known how to dig out of 'letting them fail', because the solvent banks would have become as insolvent as the insolvent banks became. Yes, the physical gold hoarders would have finally had their day, but there would not be anything left to buy.
If what you say is true, what steps have the Democrats you are defending enacted making certain such a banking failure would not happen again? I guess I never heard that Glass Steagall had been enacted again. I would think the Democrats of all people would be worried to death about how bad it got and how close it was to going back to gold trading for services.

Furthermore, what I said still applies. He could have bailed out the home owners and saved everyone. Like when they cut checks during COVID and printed the money for it all.
It would have been smarter to just bail out the homeowners by sending payments directly to the banks in the borrowers' names. But that didn't happen.
The bailing out was also an issue for home owners because the foreclosures were past tense. It wasn't as if the first home went down due to a subprime mortgage was immediately followed by the crash. That was working its way through the system and just how fragmented the free market really managed to make the securities. RVonse is using google AI to dictate their argument about 10 million home losses that Obama didn't save! 10 million home losses were between 2006 and 2014.

2006 had 1.2 million foreclosures (700k homes)
2007 had 2.2 million foreclosures (1,100k homes)
2008 had 3.2 million foreclosures (2,330k homes).
TARP Passes, aiming to buy up poison securities
System collapses on October 10th.
TARP gets partially repurposed to manage the currency freeze

4 million homes are down already before Obama gets in the door. This is why the investments are failing. It is already too late to have Obama buy the homes. Could Obama rescue homes in '09 onward? Quickly? No bleeping way! And I've got to doubt the possibility of that even passing the Senate.
The man you supported THRICE for the Presidency wouldn't have done bailed out homeowners. So what exactly is your beef?

If you read Howard Zinn's A People"s History of the United States, you'd learn that the Federal gov't has always been in the pocket of the elites to some degree since the founding of the USA. Hell, our venerated founding "fathers" were elites.
You mean even during the gold standard? *shock*
 
what steps have the Democrats you are defending enacted making certain such a banking failure would not happen again?
Ever hear of Dodd-Frank? (Which the GOP has steadily been dismantling...)
 
If I was a Republican strategist, this would be the plan. His base of lunatics are going to vote come hell or high water. All they need to do now is convince a small group of swing voters that “they’re all the same” and they stay home.
All they need to do is demotivate potential Democrat voters, which is pretty easy to do after a decade of decline and ballot-box confusion. Even a lot of regularly blue voters see the party as impotent and/or corrupt, and it's near-exclusive campaign focus on not being Trump but otherwise saying as little of consequence as possible, definitely fuels the coals of perilous apathy. 54% of the American public holds a negative opinion of the Donks [1]. Even among their own ranks, only 7 in 10 Democratic voters hold a favorable opinion of their own Party [2]. A Republican strategist doesn't need to turn those folks into turncoats, just make them feel as though their vote doesn't matter enough to make it worth the trouble of walking down to the poll.

We are in serious danger of losing our democracy to disinterest.
We have already lost our democracy to big interests. Does not matter if your candidate is blue or red they are not going to represent you.

That is not to say this can not be fixed peacefully....but voting isn't going to get the job done anymore.
Most Trump voters are like any other voters who believe the country is headed in a direction that doesn’t benefit them. Concerns such as the outsourcing of jobs, inflation, and both perceived and real biases on other domestic issues drive their decisions. While the media often emphasizes discussions about fascism, racism, and bigotry (and there is merit to those conversations), it’s notable that they steer clear of labeling Trump voters as the ‘1%’ hoarding wealth—likely because that’s an easily debunked claim. I understand why the majority of Trump voters made their choice. While there is a minority that is prouder to be degenerates than I am of being Black, most are struggling financially and view Democratic policies and rhetoric about equality as direct challenges to their way of life, even if their interpretation may not be entirely accurate.

My main issue with Trump voters (and, likewise, with those who support Democrats) is that politicians on both sides continue to prioritize the interests of the 1% over the rest of America. The entire spectacle of the DNC and RNC, amplified by profit-driven news organizations disconnected from everyday communities, only makes things worse. These media outlets, have talking heads who wouldn’t set foot in a grocery store, keeping the public so distracted and polarized that we’re on the brink of a modern return to a feudal-like system—where voicing dissenting political opinions could be risky or even seen as heretical.

Fox, CNN, and similar networks don’t represent us. They represent FOX or FOXA & WBD on NASDAQ. Anyone who regrets their choice for reasons other than recognizing that the entire system is fucked is likely to repeat the same mistakes.
I could not agree more.
Yes. Gospel’s post is where many maga have landed. Disillusioned by Trump but unwilling to move in another direction.
There is no other political direction at this point. Both parties represent the same interests and those interests are not those of the general public.

For example, union labor had always been with the Democrat party. But the Democrats betrayed them even worse than Trump today with globalization and immigration. Indeed, it was the betrayal of the Democrat party in the first place which caused the rise of Trump.

A third party is technically possible but can not succeed in the US. The last time it was tried was an unsuccessful experiment attempt during Ross Perot in the 1980's.

So we are left staring at the paradox that citizens of America, allegedly the example for the world of democracy in action, are totally devoid of political representation Neither of America’s political parties represents Americans. They represent powerful interests only.
If I was a Republican strategist, this would be the plan. His base of lunatics are going to vote come hell or high water. All they need to do now is convince a small group of swing voters that “they’re all the same” and they stay home.

Agree 100%. The only people who claim "uniparty" bullshit are too fucking ignorant with what is going on. Whether it's deliberate or not varies from person to person but it's ignorance all the same.
It makes absolutely no difference whether you vote for the blue candidate or the red one. They may say different things before they take office but their actions always support powerful interests in the end. Obvious interests which include supporting existing monopolies, killing people in far away places, inflating the monetary system, and being Israel's buttboy. In other words, everything that is important to your way of life.

So you can just go ahead and vote for your blue guy all you want and see how that works out for you in the end. Even if your blue guy is somehow the real superman, one guy isn't going to fix our corrupt political system with his magical wand.

Our political problems can not be fixed by voting anymore. The Canadian truckers did show the world how policy and/or politics could actually be changed peacefully during COVID. They showed the elite (at least temporarily) who actually produces and transports goods to everyone. But in order to work everyone on the ground has to participate. That is where the liberals like you who should have supported them abandoned them and decided to trust their faith in their existing political system. The liberals totally failed the truckers.

And the elite on both sides will count on that.
This is what people call “cope”. Its when you know you supported the worst candidate that you’ve ever had the chance to vote for, possibly twice, and need to rationalize it instead of own it.
 


Miami guitar shop owner Wayne DeMario says Trump's immigration crackdown led to his wife's deportation and changed how he will vote in the upcoming midterm elections.
 
Some small business' in Australia are regretting the USA voter's choice (again).

Yesterday my wife received a message from Australia Post that due to changes made to the FTAs between Canada, Mexico, Australia and other countries she now has to add documentation stating the origin of all materials in her parcels.
She sources materials from all over the world, often through 3rd, 4th parties etc.
Of course she does not know exactly what documentation is required but never mind she has until 31st October to comply lest her parcels be impounded and returned to her at her expense.
The FTAs were changed by the USA. No countries agreed to these changes.

Might be time to avoid posting to the USA now.
Bloody yanks. World starts and ends at your borders.
 
Some small business' in Australia are regretting the USA voter's choice (again).

Yesterday my wife received a message from Australia Post that due to changes made to the FTAs between Canada, Mexico, Australia and other countries she now has to add documentation stating the origin of all materials in her parcels.
She sources materials from all over the world, often through 3rd, 4th parties etc.
Of course she does not know exactly what documentation is required but never mind she has until 31st October to comply lest her parcels be impounded and returned to her at her expense.
The FTAs were changed by the USA. No countries agreed to these changes.

Might be time to avoid posting to the USA now.
Bloody yanks. World starts and ends at your borders.
Trump recently stated the USA can get everything it needs produced here in the country. I wonder if he drinks coffee.
 
Some small business' in Australia are regretting the USA voter's choice (again).

Yesterday my wife received a message from Australia Post that due to changes made to the FTAs between Canada, Mexico, Australia and other countries she now has to add documentation stating the origin of all materials in her parcels.
She sources materials from all over the world, often through 3rd, 4th parties etc.
Of course she does not know exactly what documentation is required but never mind she has until 31st October to comply lest her parcels be impounded and returned to her at her expense.
The FTAs were changed by the USA. No countries agreed to these changes.

Might be time to avoid posting to the USA now.
Bloody yanks. World starts and ends at your borders.
Trump recently stated the USA can get everything it needs produced here in the country. I wonder if he drinks coffee.
You are the world's largest producer of Americans (aka clowns)
 
Some small business' in Australia are regretting the USA voter's choice (again).

Yesterday my wife received a message from Australia Post that due to changes made to the FTAs between Canada, Mexico, Australia and other countries she now has to add documentation stating the origin of all materials in her parcels.
She sources materials from all over the world, often through 3rd, 4th parties etc.
Of course she does not know exactly what documentation is required but never mind she has until 31st October to comply lest her parcels be impounded and returned to her at her expense.
The FTAs were changed by the USA. No countries agreed to these changes.

Might be time to avoid posting to the USA now.
Bloody yanks. World starts and ends at your borders.
Trump recently stated the USA can get everything it needs produced here in the country. I wonder if he drinks coffee.
You are the world's largest producer of Americans (aka clowns)
Also a very large population of ignorant Baptists...
 
Some small business' in Australia are regretting the USA voter's choice (again).

Yesterday my wife received a message from Australia Post that due to changes made to the FTAs between Canada, Mexico, Australia and other countries she now has to add documentation stating the origin of all materials in her parcels.
She sources materials from all over the world, often through 3rd, 4th parties etc.
Of course she does not know exactly what documentation is required but never mind she has until 31st October to comply lest her parcels be impounded and returned to her at her expense.
The FTAs were changed by the USA. No countries agreed to these changes.

Might be time to avoid posting to the USA now.
Bloody yanks. World starts and ends at your borders.
Trump recently stated the USA can get everything it needs produced here in the country. I wonder if he drinks coffee.
Or Diet Coke.
 
Bloody yanks. World starts and ends at your borders.
A lot of fucking Yanks agree with you, fyi. Why aren't you differentiating those "bloody yanks', with conservative yanks?

Fuck the Trump/MAGA yanks. They are about half. The other almost half are not so fucking evil and or stupid. Many unfortunately couldn't get off their asses to vote against evil.
 
Bloody yanks. World starts and ends at your borders.
A lot of fucking Yanks agree with you, fyi. Why aren't you differentiating those "bloody yanks', with conservative yanks?
Much easier to have just the one bucket and use the same brush all the time.
 
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Bloody yanks. World starts and ends at your borders.
A lot of fucking Yanks agree with you, fyi. Why aren't you differentiating those "bloody yanks', with conservative yanks?

Fuck the Trump/MAGA yanks. They are about half. The other almost half are not so fucking evil and or stupid.

Many unfortunately couldn't get off their asses to vote against evil.
Does that mean we can call them stupid too?
 
Bloody yanks. World starts and ends at your borders.
A lot of fucking Yanks agree with you, fyi. Why aren't you differentiating those "bloody yanks', with conservative yanks?
It gets very confusing when there are "bloody yanks", conservative yanks and fucking yanks.
See post no. 995
 
Bloody yanks. World starts and ends at your borders.
A lot of fucking Yanks agree with you, fyi. Why aren't you differentiating those "bloody yanks', with conservative yanks?

Fuck the Trump/MAGA yanks. They are about half. The other almost half are not so fucking evil and or stupid.

Many unfortunately couldn't get off their asses to vote against evil.
Does that mean we can call them stupid too?

Lazy fucks might work.
 
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