Bidengate Breaks... err... down

[Loren Pechtel]

It’s interesting that those signs (inaccurate imitation of screen, anachronistic photo) are the information needed to KNOW it is fake, and yet, so many people will see that evidence and still not know what is going on.

Because most people don't start out evaluating something from a "is this a fake" perspective, even though these days it should be something to automatically consider.

 

[Jason Harvestdancer]

Justice for the elite, gotta love it.

Name three people who have gone to jail under the same circumstances as Hunter.

I think Jason and the alt-right are mistaken here in judging what matters. It isn't that he is the President's son. It is he has access to very good lawyers. Like Trump (or OJ Simpson). Access to great lawyers is what helps people take charges that could lead to jail and become more about plea deals.

If Jason wants to be angry at anything, it'd be the upper crust establishment that is able to use their access to lawyers to get away with a boatload of stuff.

Since the founding of government (not just the US government, but government itself), there has always been a multi-tiered justice system. Except for now, we have finally come across the one perfect court case.

 

[steve_bank]

Of course, the life long career DC polotician Joe Boden is pure of heart and would never use his name and power to unduly influence for personal or family interets.

Evn old Honest Abe Licoln was not all that honest.

 

[Patooka]

Of course, the life long career DC polotician Joe Boden is pure of heart and would never use his name and power to unduly influence for personal or family interets.

Evn old Honest Abe Licoln was not all that honest.

I think you've got that backwards. I doubt Joe is going around to companies saying, "give my kid a job". However, I can totally see companies saying, "Hey, let's give Biden's fuckup of a son a job and see if that helps us with project [X]"

That sort of nepotism is hardly unique and if you are against it (as I am), there are far far far far far more egregious examples than Hunter fucking Biden.

 

[steve_bank]

At the DC level politicos and influence is very skilled and nuanced. I saw it in corporate politics. Meaning and quid pro quo does not have to be explicitly expressed. The expression was 'learning to play politics'.

Trump and family are clumsy and inexperienced with no nuance and political skill.. Biden is a highly skilled seasoned hardball politician behind his public facade of the aw shucks down home blue collar working class hero.

Lincoln's down home backwoods poor boy rough and ready image was a political fabrication no different tan anything doe today. His iconic beared image was created by political operatives of the day.

I prefer Biden of Trump, but to me Biden is one of typical upper political class.

The only reason Hunter Biden with no experience and a drug history got a position on a Ukrainian enery company board was to curry political influence with his father.

There may be nothing legally wrong with any funds paid to Hunter Biden, but I think it was an obvious quid pro quo. It does not have to be explicit. Just a wink and a nod and an execution of a possible future payoff.

Look at what has come out about Supreme Cort judges on expensive vacation jaunts with the wealthy. Of course they claim 'political and legal issues were never discussed', at least not explicitly.

I just hope that whatever does come out about Biden is not serious enough to give Trump amunition.

 

[Patooka]

The only reason Hunter Biden with no experience and a drug history got a position on a Ukrainian enery company board was to curry political influence with his father.

Yes. And that decision was done by the leadership of the company. Joe Biden himself had sweet fuck all to do with the decision making process.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

The only reason Hunter Biden with no experience and a drug history got a position on a Ukrainian enery company board was to curry political influence with his father.

Well, that isn't exactly true. He wasn't some homeless drug addict. He was a benefactor of white privilege. Regardless, yes, who his father was got Hunter on that board. It wasn't particularly ethical, he shouldn't have done it.

There may be nothing legally wrong with any funds paid to Hunter Biden, but I think it was an obvious quid pro quo. It does not have to be explicit. Just a wink and a nod and an execution of a possible future payoff.

Burisma was dealing with some bad mojo, Hunter and others were put on the board to make them look "cleaner" so they could get back to making more money.

Look at what has come out about Supreme Cort judges on expensive vacation jaunts with the wealthy. Of course they claim 'political and legal issues were never discussed', at least not explicitly.

I just hope that whatever does come out about Biden is not serious enough to give Trump amunition.

Trump tried to overthrow a US election. He doesn't need truth as ammunition. He can make whatever he wants up, and encourages others to do likewise, such as the Georgia Secretary of State of President Zelensky.

 

[Copernicus]

Trump and family are clumsy and inexperienced with no nuance and political skill.. Biden is a highly skilled seasoned hardball politician behind his public facade of the aw shucks down home blue collar working class hero.

Steve, I think you should take the time to learn a little more about Donald Trump's life. He is far from someone who lacks political skill. He grew up in a family run by a real estate mogul who used political connections to NYC Democratic administrations to get all sorts of favors to enrich himself. When Rudy Giuliani became mayor of NYC, Donald Trump, following in his father's footsteps, shifted from buying Democrats to buying Republicans. He was never as good as his father at enriching himself with that kind of political manipulation, but he understood very well how to play the system to his advantage. When he managed to bankrupt his father's real estate legacy with six bankruptcies in the 1990s, he was so well-connected that banks wouldn't stop lending him money to bail him out. Joe Biden was always a seasoned politician, but he was never near as corrupt as Donald Trump, who grew up immersed in it. "Pay to play" is Donald Trump's motto, not Joe Biden's.

 

[scombrid]

The only reason Hunter Biden with no experience and a drug history got a position on a Ukrainian enery company board was to curry political influence with his father.

No shit. Now demonstrate that Burisma didn't waste their fucking money getting taken for a ride.

 

[Elixir]

Why did Jared get $2b?
Prob’ly nothing to do with his FIL.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

The only reason Hunter Biden with no experience and a drug history got a position on a Ukrainian enery company board was to curry political influence with his father.

No shit. Now demonstrate that Burisma didn't waste their fucking money getting taken for a ride.

They were paying Hunter Biden for image, not getting in with the US Government. They wanted people to stop looking so closely into their business.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

The only reason Hunter Biden with no experience and a drug history got a position on a Ukrainian enery company board was to curry political influence with his father.

There may be nothing legally wrong with any funds paid to Hunter Biden, but I think it was an obvious quid pro quo. It does not have to be explicit. Just a wink and a nod and an execution of a possible future payoff.

Look at what has come out about Supreme Cort judges on expensive vacation jaunts with the wealthy. Of course they claim 'political and legal issues were never discussed', at least not explicitly.

I just hope that whatever does come out about Biden is not serious enough to give Trump amunition.

The problem here is that you omitted a word. It should be "...was an attempt to curry..." There's no indication that it actually had any effect. Yes, he shouldn't have taken the job but he's a screwup, you expect he would turn it down??

 

[Toni]

At the DC level politicos and influence is very skilled and nuanced. I saw it in corporate politics. Meaning and quid pro quo does not have to be explicitly expressed. The expression was 'learning to play politics'.

Trump and family are clumsy and inexperienced with no nuance and political skill.. Biden is a highly skilled seasoned hardball politician behind his public facade of the aw shucks down home blue collar working class hero.

Lincoln's down home backwoods poor boy rough and ready image was a political fabrication no different tan anything doe today. His iconic beared image was created by political operatives of the day.

I prefer Biden of Trump, but to me Biden is one of typical upper political class.

The only reason Hunter Biden with no experience and a drug history got a position on a Ukrainian enery company board was to curry political influence with his father.

There may be nothing legally wrong with any funds paid to Hunter Biden, but I think it was an obvious quid pro quo. It does not have to be explicit. Just a wink and a nod and an execution of a possible future payoff.

Look at what has come out about Supreme Cort judges on expensive vacation jaunts with the wealthy. Of course they claim 'political and legal issues were never discussed', at least not explicitly.

I just hope that whatever does come out about Biden is not serious enough to give Trump amunition.

Where exactly do you get your information about Lincoln?

Where does you information about Biden come from?

 

[BH]

I have a friend who was offered several high level spots in companies right after he got his bachelors in business degree. He ended up taking a vp position but really did nothing at work but the most piddly stuff. He had no say in anything significant and basically just took up space. He went on with the gig for a couple of years saving most of his pretty good salary and ended up starting his own business with it. The only reason he got it was because his dad was a federal judge and he was being groomed for a political career and the company was trying to pad his political resume for when he ran for office. In the end he didnt want that kind of life and left it and did not look back. He did just fine on his own.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

So the other BidenGate, the one with the missing whistleblower... maybe it is more of a "Oh crap! Hope he just disappears"-blower.

In May, Comer was forced to acknowledge that the House committee had lost track of its whistleblower. And three days before the criminal charges were unsealed, Comer told the conservative Newsmax media outfit that Luft was “a very credible witness on Biden family corruption [who] provided incriminating evidence to six officials from the FBI and the DOJ in a meeting in Brussels in March 2019.”

However...

As part of this scheme, in part using his role as co-director of the non-profit think tank, Luft "agreed to covertly recruit and pay, on behalf of principals based in China," a former high-ranking U.S. government official. Those efforts began in 2016 while the former official was an adviser to Trump and continued after Trump was in the White House, to publicly support pro-China policies without telling the Justice Department about their hidden pro-China agenda, the indictment said.

The Trump advisor is identified only as Individual-1 in the filing. Luft then suggested he was maneuvering to get the Trump advisor into a good political position to help China. "We do not want to spill all the beans yet, just enough to let ‘people’ know he [i.e., Individual-1] is in the corridor of power to be," Luft allegedly said. He also said "there can be a supremely unique opportunity for China” given their clandestine roles in helping promote pro-Beijing policies in the U.S.

Luft also acted as a broker or middleman to find both buyers and sellers of certain weapons and other materials, without a license to do so as required under U.S. law, in violation of the Arms Export Control Act. That included working to broker a deal for Chinese companies to sell certain weapons to Libya, including anti-tank launchers, grenade launchers, and mortar rounds, which Luft and his associates referred to in coded language as “toys,” according to the Justice Department.

Of course, his arrest in Feb 17 in Cyprus was all part of a massive conspiracy by the Biden Admin to cover up his crime family's crimes.

 

[Copernicus]

So the other BidenGate, the one with the missing whistleblower... maybe it is more of a "Oh crap! Hope he just disappears"-blower.

In May, Comer was forced to acknowledge that the House committee had lost track of its whistleblower. And three days before the criminal charges were unsealed, Comer told the conservative Newsmax media outfit that Luft was “a very credible witness on Biden family corruption [who] provided incriminating evidence to six officials from the FBI and the DOJ in a meeting in Brussels in March 2019.”

However...

As part of this scheme, in part using his role as co-director of the non-profit think tank, Luft "agreed to covertly recruit and pay, on behalf of principals based in China," a former high-ranking U.S. government official. Those efforts began in 2016 while the former official was an adviser to Trump and continued after Trump was in the White House, to publicly support pro-China policies without telling the Justice Department about their hidden pro-China agenda, the indictment said.

The Trump advisor is identified only as Individual-1 in the filing. Luft then suggested he was maneuvering to get the Trump advisor into a good political position to help China. "We do not want to spill all the beans yet, just enough to let ‘people’ know he [i.e., Individual-1] is in the corridor of power to be," Luft allegedly said. He also said "there can be a supremely unique opportunity for China” given their clandestine roles in helping promote pro-Beijing policies in the U.S.

Luft also acted as a broker or middleman to find both buyers and sellers of certain weapons and other materials, without a license to do so as required under U.S. law, in violation of the Arms Export Control Act. That included working to broker a deal for Chinese companies to sell certain weapons to Libya, including anti-tank launchers, grenade launchers, and mortar rounds, which Luft and his associates referred to in coded language as “toys,” according to the Justice Department.

Of course, his arrest in Feb 17 in Cyprus was all part of a massive conspiracy by the Biden Admin to cover up his crime family's crimes.

Well, that clears up the mystery over why the guy disappeared. It also explains why Comer and other Republicans found him "very credible". How could a Trump adviser not be considered very credible? He only hired the best people.

 

[barbos]

The only reason Hunter Biden with no experience and a drug history got a position on a Ukrainian enery company board was to curry political influence with his father.

No shit. Now demonstrate that Burisma didn't waste their fucking money getting taken for a ride.

They got prosecutor fired by Bidenopolis, did not they?

 

[Patooka]

The only reason Hunter Biden with no experience and a drug history got a position on a Ukrainian enery company board was to curry political influence with his father.

No shit. Now demonstrate that Burisma didn't waste their fucking money getting taken for a ride.

They got prosecutor fired by Bidenopolis, did not they?

The chronology doesn't add up. Hunter wasn't working for Burisma when the prosecutor got investigated.

 

[barbos]

The chronology doesn't add up. Hunter wasn't working for Burisma when the prosecutor got investigated.

And? They asked Biden to fire him and he fired him. That's what email says.

 

[Copernicus]

The chronology doesn't add up. Hunter wasn't working for Burisma when the prosecutor got investigated.

And? They asked Biden to fire him and he fired him. That's what email says.

What email? Biden was asked by the Obama administration to get a corrupt prosecutor fired because he had stopped an investigation against Burisma. Everyone knows this except you and MAGA Republicans, apparently.