Climate Change(d)?

[steve_bank]

It seems we are seeing the beginning of an apocalypse of sorts.

There are predictions that Texas and other areas in the southwest may become iuninhabitable. The jet stream may be slowing down. The current Texas heat wave is at the limit of human endurance ftom reporting.

The current storms and wildfire pollution from Canadian fires.

Wa is predicted to be as bad or worse than last year for wildfire smoke.

 

[Shadowy Man]

It seems we are seeing the beginning of an apocalypse of sorts.

There are predictions that Texas and other areas in the southwest may become iuninhabitable. The jet stream may be slowing down. The current Texas heat wave is at the limit of human endurance ftom reporting.

The current storms and wildfire pollution from Canadian fires.

Wa is predicted to be as bad or worse than last year for wildfire smoke.

Everyone will just have to move to Santa Monica.

 

[Elixir]

The current Texas heat wave is at the limit of human endurance ftom reporting.

Good. We need environments that exceed the limits of human survival to prepare for the Mars colonization. Or in Texas’ case, Venus.

 

[steve_bank]

I think the PNW will need a wall on our southern boundary.

I wonder if Trump is available to build it. He is good at building walls.

After last summer and the current summer predctions I got a supply of N95 masks said to be effecve for wildfire smoke. It was pretty bad last year.

 

[Shadowy Man]

I wonder if Trump is available to build it. He is good at building walls.

or more accurately he’s good at talking about building walls.

 

[lpetrich]

James G. Watt - Wikiquote

That is the delicate balance the Secretary of the Interior must have: to be steward for the natural resources for this generation as well as future generations. I do not know how many future generations we can count on before the Lord returns; whatever it is we have to manage with a skill to leave the resources needed for future generations.

-- Testimony before the House Interior Committee (5 February 1981)

He soon backed down from that argument, conceding that Jesus Christ may take another 2,000 years to do his Second Coming.

A similar argument was stated recently.

Ed Krassenstein on Twitter: "Fox News’ Rachel Campos-Duffy ..." / Twitter

Fox News’ Rachel Campos-Duffy went on a crazed religious rant today, claiming that liberals only see Earth as the endgame while conservatives look beyond.

She stated, “For them (liberals), where we live right now, this place, Earth is it. So everything’s on the line here for them. They think, as you said, they can perfect this Earth. Those of us who have faith don’t believe that, and we believe how we act here determines where we go after. And so we got to behave.”

She also implied that liberals don’t live within moral limits and insinuated that liberals can’t be “Christians” or religious in any way.

She then tried to equate religion with climate issues, seemingly implying that Conservatives don’t need to care about the planet because this isn’t their final destination.

My opinion:
#1) Religion shouldn’t make humanity neglect our planet.
#2) There are plenty of liberal religious people. The majority of American Jews identify as liberal. A huge amount of Christians, Muslims, Hindus, etc. are liberal as well.

What do you make of these comments? Agree or Disagree?

(with video of her saying all that)

 

[lpetrich]

More:

Fox News Host: Why Try to Save Earth When Afterlife Is Real?

The hosts of Fox & Friends were discussing Republican Presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy's pledge to be "guided by faith" if he wins, and they noted that Republican candidates mention religion more often than Democratic ones.

Co-host Rachel Campos-Duffy took that a step further, saying liberals only see Earth as the endgame while conservatives look beyond.

“For them, where we live right now, this place, Earth is it,” she said. “So everything’s on the line here for them. They think, as you said, they can perfect this Earth. Those of us who have faith don’t believe that, and we believe how we act here determines where we go after. And so we got to behave.”

Campos-Duffy also argued that conservatives tried to live “within those moral limits,” a lifestyle she purported liberals don’t abide by. “The ends justify the means is sort of the rules for radicals,” she said. “That’s not how Christians act.”

...
“We’re made for religion,” she said. “So if you don’t have a faith, whether it’s Hindu, Islam, Christianity, you’re going to create one. And it could be climate, or it could be yourself.”

 

[TSwizzle]

Another’s doomsday clock. King Charles has form for such nonsense;

The King and the Mayor of London have activated a climate clock which counts down the time left to balance global greenhouse gas emissions to prevent the Earth heating more than 1.5C above pre-industrial levels. The climate clock has a countdown of six years and 24 days, at which point experts say the world will have used up the carbon budget for keeping to the Paris Agreement and the Earth will inevitably heat beyond 1.5C.

News

From 2009;

The Prince of Wales is to issue a warning that the world has only "100 months to act" before the damage caused by global warming becomes irreversible.As part of a tour of South America, his speech to business leaders in Rio de Janeiro on Thursday will echo predictions made by climate change experts who believe there are about eight years left to cut C02 emissions. He will warn that failure to act urgently could have catastrophic effects for the planet.

Teh Gruaniad

It really is an end of times cult.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Another’s doomsday clock. King Charles has form for such nonsense;

The King and the Mayor of London have activated a climate clock which counts down the time left to balance global greenhouse gas emissions to prevent the Earth heating more than 1.5C above pre-industrial levels. The climate clock has a countdown of six years and 24 days, at which point experts say the world will have used up the carbon budget for keeping to the Paris Agreement and the Earth will inevitably heat beyond 1.5C.

News

From 2009;

The Prince of Wales is to issue a warning that the world has only "100 months to act" before the damage caused by global warming becomes irreversible.As part of a tour of South America, his speech to business leaders in Rio de Janeiro on Thursday will echo predictions made by climate change experts who believe there are about eight years left to cut C02 emissions. He will warn that failure to act urgently could have catastrophic effects for the planet.

Teh Gruaniad

It really is an end of times cult.

What you fail to note is that it has been getting warmer.

I do agree that the focus on specific thresholds is meaningless. 1.49C isn't much different from 1.51C.

The fossil record shows that it is possible for the Earth to heat itself to the point that most of the planet is uninhabitable to fossil-leaving organisms. We don't know what the atmosphere was to do that, only that it did happen. The sun isn't the culprit as it's warmer now than then.

Note, also, that we do not have a good picture of what the methane hydrates might do--this lack of data means they are completely omitted from the IPCC projections--despite the fact that I've seen worst-case estimates for them that are higher than the worst-case estimates for CO2. And they stack.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Another’s doomsday clock. King Charles has form for such nonsense;

The King and the Mayor of London have activated a climate clock which counts down the time left to balance global greenhouse gas emissions to prevent the Earth heating more than 1.5C above pre-industrial levels. The climate clock has a countdown of six years and 24 days, at which point experts say the world will have used up the carbon budget for keeping to the Paris Agreement and the Earth will inevitably heat beyond 1.5C.

News

From 2009;

The Prince of Wales is to issue a warning that the world has only "100 months to act" before the damage caused by global warming becomes irreversible.As part of a tour of South America, his speech to business leaders in Rio de Janeiro on Thursday will echo predictions made by climate change experts who believe there are about eight years left to cut C02 emissions. He will warn that failure to act urgently could have catastrophic effects for the planet.

Teh Gruaniad

It really is an end of times cult.

Meanwhile global temps continue to rise (even in during the La Nina cycle when the oceans are siphoning more carbon from the air, which should depress global temps a bit). Oceans are getting warmer, but I suppose that is caused by thermometers being near airports.

 

[Elixir]

Meanwhile global temps continue to rise (even in during the La Nina cycle when the oceans are siphoning more carbon from the air, which should depress global temps a bit). Oceans are getting warmer, but I suppose that is caused by thermometers being near airports.

Sure, global temps will continue to rise, but never fear - like frogs in a pot on the stove, climate denyers will always have their anecdotes to prove it’s not a problem.

 

[steve_bank]

Meanwhile global temps continue to rise (even in during the La Nina cycle when the oceans are siphoning more carbon from the air, which should depress global temps a bit). Oceans are getting warmer, but I suppose that is caused by thermometers being near airports.

Sure, global temps will continue to rise, but never fear - like frogs in a pot on the stove, climate denyers will always have their anecdotes to prove it’s not a problem.

Whish I came up with that...that is it exactly.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

July 3rd... hot enough for ya Earth?

The average global temperature reached 17.01 degrees Celsius (62.62 Fahrenheit), surpassing the August 2016 record of 16.92C (62.46F) as heatwaves sizzled around the world.

The southern U.S. has been suffering under an intense heat dome in recent weeks. In China, an enduring heatwave continued, with temperatures above 35C (95F). North Africa has seen temperatures near 50C (122F).

And even Antarctica, currently in its winter, registered anomalously high temperatures. Ukraine's Vernadsky Research Base in the white continent's Argentine Islands recently broke its July temperature record with 8.7C (47.6F).

 

[scombrid]

** Canaan Mountain Snowfall **

This is detailed snowfall data for the official National Weather Service weather observing station (Davis 3SE, WV) at the summit of Canaan Mountain.

data.canaanmtnsnow.com

Northern WV mountains had a May blizzard to cap one of the least snowy winters on record.

 

[scombrid]

https://whitegrass.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Fearless-Weather-May-Snowstorm-Summary.txt

 

[TSwizzle]

It really is an end of times, rapture like cult. A mental disorder;

Climate grief is real – and I cannot keep watching images of our dying planet. I have now realised that I have a grief disorder which has arisen slowly over the past few decades and is likely to remain prolonged. Most scientists agree we now live five minutes or less to midnight, which is the collapse of our society. Of relevance to my disorder, Glenn Albrecht, an environmental philosopher, created the word solastalgiaAfter striving on this issue for decades I feel we perhaps have a 1% chance of avoiding collapse of our systems

Teh Gruaniad



It's a catastrophic 72 degrees in Santa Monica today.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

It really is an end of times, rapture like cult. A mental disorder;

Climate grief is real – and I cannot keep watching images of our dying planet. I have now realised that I have a grief disorder which has arisen slowly over the past few decades and is likely to remain prolonged. Most scientists agree we now live five minutes or less to midnight, which is the collapse of our society. Of relevance to my disorder, Glenn Albrecht, an environmental philosopher, created the word solastalgiaAfter striving on this issue for decades I feel we perhaps have a 1% chance of avoiding collapse of our systems

Teh Gruaniad



It's a catastrophic 72 degrees in Santa Monica today.

I note no response to the post about the hottest day ever.

 

[bilby]

It's a catastrophic 72 degrees in Santa Monica today.

I note no response to the post about the hottest day ever.

Perhaps that was his response, and he's quoting the temperature in °C.

 

[JohnG]

It really is an end of times, rapture like cult. A mental disorder;

Climate grief is real – and I cannot keep watching images of our dying planet. I have now realised that I have a grief disorder which has arisen slowly over the past few decades and is likely to remain prolonged. Most scientists agree we now live five minutes or less to midnight, which is the collapse of our society. Of relevance to my disorder, Glenn Albrecht, an environmental philosopher, created the word solastalgiaAfter striving on this issue for decades I feel we perhaps have a 1% chance of avoiding collapse of our systems

Teh Gruaniad



It's a catastrophic 72 degrees in Santa Monica today.

Whew - that's a relief for people visiting Santa Monica today.

 

[southernhybrid]

The latest from the climate changed cult. /S

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/11/...wv7Kljv9zigXSI-COc6d7KEabhoUHQ&smid=url-share

This week’s flooding in Vermont, in which heavy rainfall caused destruction far from rivers or coastlines, is evidence of an especially dangerous climate threat: Catastrophic flooding can increasingly happen anywhere, with almost no warning.

And the United States, experts warn, is nowhere close to ready for that threat.

The idea that anywhere it can rain, it can flood, is not new. But rising temperatures make the problem worse: They allow the air to hold more moisture, leading to more intense and sudden rainfall, seemingly out of nowhere. And the implications of that shift are enormous.

“It’s getting harder and harder to adapt to these changing conditions,” said Rachel Cleetus, policy director for the climate and energy program at the Union of Concerned Scientists. “It’s just everywhere, all the time.”

The federal government is already struggling to prepare American communities for severe flooding, by funding better storm drains and pumps, building levees and sea walls and elevating roads and other basic infrastructure. As seas rise and storms get worse, the most flood-prone parts of the country — places like New Orleans, Miami, Houston, Charleston or even areas of New York City — could easily consume the government’s entire budget for climate resilience, without solving the problem for any of them.

Gifted article

It's pretty hard to pretend this isn't happening.