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In other words, it's a pro Western, Freedom and democracy loving and anti sharia extreme islamic barbarism?
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In other words, it's a pro Western, Freedom and democracy loving and anti sharia extreme islamic barbarism?
Jimmy Higgins
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[Yosemite Sam]Darn tootin! *bang bang bang*[/Yosemite Sam]
Elixir
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Wrong again. It's anti-compassion, anti-science, pro-hate, pro stupid and highly adept at fooling idiots into thinking there's something true about it. Kinda like Trump.
If you think it is about freedom or democracy, you are the perfect target for this kind of shallow extremist propaganda.
Derec
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Elixir
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Good call - Geller is about as nutty as Barry "Daisy Girl" Goldwater was.
He openly declared, as if it was the best thing since sliced bread:
"you could press a button and wipe out 300 million people before sundown."
- Barry Goldwater
I was alive then, and though I was young the guy scared the shit out of me.
But that IS the point, right?
Keep people so scared that someone is going to rape your mom and steal your apple pie, that you'll let THEM do it.
He openly declared, as if it was the best thing since sliced bread:
"you could press a button and wipe out 300 million people before sundown."
- Barry Goldwater
I was alive then, and though I was young the guy scared the shit out of me.
But that IS the point, right?
Keep people so scared that someone is going to rape your mom and steal your apple pie, that you'll let THEM do it.
angelo
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What should really put the fear of bejesus into you are the likes of an AOC and her loony rantings about a Green New Deal and other crazy extreme socialist ideology that would destroy you and your descendents way of life by bankrupting the country within months!
Elixir
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Bullshit on a didgeridoo.
Giving away more than 2 trillion dollars to his best donors didn't cause Cheato to crash the economy that Obama rescued. Why would universal health care (which would reduce overall healthcare costs), free college (which would produce far more earnings and high earners than it would cost), mitigating the effects of climate change (which will cost far less than failure to do so) or any of the other proposals you call crazy, have more of a deleterious effect on the economy than offshoring 2 trillion dollars for Cheato's friends, buying us nothing but fatter coffers for Republican con- paigns?
You really are saturated with the fearmongering right's propaganda. Like the rest of the alt-white, you are blatantly shitting your pants in terror over phantom demons. You obediently pull them down for a fresh pair, and your right wing extremist heroes are waiting right there to run off with your wallet. How many times will you let that happen?
PyramidHead
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Kamala Harris' student debt relief plan unveiled
What is with Democrats and these Rube Goldberg networks of means-testing? Do they really think this is what voters want? I can just hear the chants now...
"What do we want?
PARTIAL STUDENT LOAN FORGIVENESS FOR PELL GRANT RECIPIENTS!
When do we want it?
AFTER OPERATING A BUSINESS FOR THREE YEARS IN DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES!"
What is with Democrats and these Rube Goldberg networks of means-testing? Do they really think this is what voters want? I can just hear the chants now...
"What do we want?
PARTIAL STUDENT LOAN FORGIVENESS FOR PELL GRANT RECIPIENTS!
When do we want it?
AFTER OPERATING A BUSINESS FOR THREE YEARS IN DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES!"
Jimmy Higgins
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Jebus! After operating a business for three years?! Isn't that hard to do when you are buried in student debt? And $20k forgiveness isn't exactly getting anyone anywhere.
Harris is the candidate I see getting the nomination, but this plan makes absolutely no sense. How can you tie student loan forgiveness to running a business?
Make more sense to forgive loans underwritten by a bank that stays in a disadvantaged community.
The greatest problem with loan forgiveness is that it is really a door closure after the cow got out of the barn plan. What do we do now that it is way too late to prevent this problem? Heck, the US Government can't even run an existing student loan forgiveness program due to ridiculous technicalities.
Harris is the candidate I see getting the nomination, but this plan makes absolutely no sense. How can you tie student loan forgiveness to running a business?
Make more sense to forgive loans underwritten by a bank that stays in a disadvantaged community.
The greatest problem with loan forgiveness is that it is really a door closure after the cow got out of the barn plan. What do we do now that it is way too late to prevent this problem? Heck, the US Government can't even run an existing student loan forgiveness program due to ridiculous technicalities.
PyramidHead
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Not by much. Why should we make debt forgiveness contingent on getting loans from banks that prey on vulnerable communities? Just because a bank is located in a disadvantaged neighborhood doesn't mean they aren't bad actors. It's usually the reverse: predators like to hang around where there's easy prey. And again, these strings attached make it seem like there's a good reason to have these exorbitant tuitions in the first place. The Democratic party should adopt the asterisk as its official logo for Christ's sake. Just cancel everybody's debt using the money we normally put aside for obliterating entire villages in foreign countries, or take it from the fund that ordinarily pays for Israeli bulldozers, and use that same money to pay for everybody's college education going forward.
I bet you would have said the same thing about any normalized, commonplace practice of exploitation that was endemic in our public policy, at the time before it was done away with. The inept nature of the government is deliberately manufactured to induce this kind of pessimism about real solutions.
Tony Benn said it like this:
"The way change occurs to begin with, if you come up with a good idea, like heathcare, you're ignored. If you go on you must be mad, absolutely stark-staring bonkers. If you go on after that you're dangerous. Then, if the pressure keeps up there's a pause. And then you can't find anyone at the top who doesn't claim to have thought of it in the first place. That's how progress is made."
Derec
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Kamala steps into in again.
Kamala Harris Praises Anti-Semite Who Incited Race Riots, Anti-Jewish Pogroms
Kamala Harris Praises Anti-Semite Who Incited Race Riots, Anti-Jewish Pogroms
Derec
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So basically, it's a reparations plan. Screw those non-black students with student loans, right?The Mary Sue said:
Arctish
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I don't think it's limited to blacks but Harris’ plan heavily favors business majors and culinary arts school graduates.
What about the people who studied biology, geophysics, meteorology, chemical engineering, journalism, or about 1,000 other available degree programs? They don't get a break because there's no call for geophysicists in the inner city?
Elixir
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It's the fault of the educational system.
WHY ARE THERE NO DEGREES OFFERED IN CLIMATE CHANGE DENIAL?
I mean, THAT is where the demand is...
angelo
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Spoken like a true dedicated follower of a Castro, Stalin, Chavez, Maduro, and of course, Marx himself! Whatever happened to JFK's ask not what your country can do for you, but ask what you can do for the your country.
Playball40
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Ok, so I see the argument for the telescope. What are the arguments against? I'm honestly curious.
Playball40
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Seriously? Again? Socialism didn't destroy those economies/countries. Corruption, nepotism/despotism and cronyism did. Honestly, do yourself a favor and read.
angelo
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That's just the problem. I had read the subject widely. I have around 12 books in my Kindle on the subject.