It's not really any fun to talk to Trump supporters. Sooner or later they have to admit to being either stupid or hypocritical. It always leads to hard feelings.
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laughing dog
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"No u" is the ultimate admission of failure. So, keep flailing away.
Jason Harvestdancer
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That's not a nice way to talk about laughing dog.
laughing dog
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barbos
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I remember John Oliver talking about how Monarchy is bad using Thailand as an example. Thailand has very old King and his idiot son who will become a King eventually. With Trump we have a counterexample where democracy and capitalism are not that perfect either.
repoman
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what we have is an oligopoly that funds sham elections and uses the president and congress as scapegoats for the ills of the country.
Better to have a king that can be guillotined if he is terrible.
Better to have a king that can be guillotined if he is terrible.
Jason Harvestdancer
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You don't like that libertarians aren't lining up behind Trump? Why does that upset you?
T.G.G. Moogly
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I've never talked to a jock strap, or had it talk to me. I know if I pull on the bands and let go it makes a snapping sound so perhaps it's trying to communicate something important.
I'll have to pay more attention.
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I have to say I'm completely confused by this, too.
Jason, you say explicitly that you are NOT saying Trump is good for the country (assume this means he is either neutral or bad for country?)
You are also explicitly saying you like the effect that Trump is having on the country.
Can you please explain what you mean and how you reconcile these two seemingly contradictory statements?
I don't want to even make an "are you saying...?" statement because I'm sure to be wrong. So I'm asking you straight up what you mean by thinking the effect trump is having on the country is good but he's not good for the country...
I guess I'm also confused by the idea of people who "deserve to have a bad time" If you could explain that, too, it would help.
Maybe it's that you don't want him to win but you like him running?
And I guess I can kind of see that, I felt similarly about Sanders. But it was becuase I LIKE Sanders' policies, I just don't think he'll implement them as well as Clinton will, so I'm glad he got some of his policies onto her platform.
If that's where you're coming from, which policies of Trumps are you glad to see pushed?
Elixir
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Wouldn't it be great if he landed in Mexico later today, and they locked him up as an enemy of the State?
Not gonna happen - but it SHOULD!
I can't imagine a single scenario in which his Mexico trip helps him.
Although, pragmatically speaking, I would hate what that lock-up would do the the trumpites - they'd get even more nationalistic. And Obama would have to go get him back. That would be a bummer.
Although, pragmatically speaking, I would hate what that lock-up would do the the trumpites - they'd get even more nationalistic. And Obama would have to go get him back. That would be a bummer.
braces_for_impact
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If I were Trump, I'd be keeping an eye out for El Chapo's goons. El Chapo did say he would kill Trump after all. His Secret Service detail is probably scrambling, because Trump's "administration" for lack of a better word, can't even plan a trip to our southern neighbor without it being a shit storm. Why people think he'll make a great leader I don't get. He can't even plan a day trip.
T.G.G. Moogly
Traditional Atheist
It's scary that millions of people actually believed all the bullshit trump spewed, and so voted for him in the primaries. Now many of those supporters are seeing that on immigration trump is doing exactly what his primary opponents said they would do, for which Trump ridiculed them.
It's sad that voting adults can be so stupid. You have to be stupid to have taken him seriously.
It's sad that voting adults can be so stupid. You have to be stupid to have taken him seriously.
southernhybrid
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I'm not sure if it's stupidity or just out right hatred of Clinton that motivates many of these Trump supporters. Emotions can make otherwise intelligent people make very irrational decisions.
Will Wiley
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If I could vote I'd tend to take Bill Blum's view.
American Exceptionalism and the Election Made in Hell (Or Why I’d Vote for Trump Over Hillary)
Of course I'm not an American so I tend to be more concerned about foreign policy than domestic.
Another Australian takes this view too.
John Pilger: Why Hillary Clinton Is More Dangerous Than Donald Trump
I think Hillary is more dangerous for the rest of the world than Trump, who indicates he will be more isolationist.
Hillary is probably a bigger liar too. And that is saying something.
American Exceptionalism and the Election Made in Hell (Or Why I’d Vote for Trump Over Hillary)
Of course I'm not an American so I tend to be more concerned about foreign policy than domestic.
Another Australian takes this view too.
John Pilger: Why Hillary Clinton Is More Dangerous Than Donald Trump
I think Hillary is more dangerous for the rest of the world than Trump, who indicates he will be more isolationist.
Hillary is probably a bigger liar too. And that is saying something.
Harry Bosch
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If I could vote I'd tend to take Bill Blum's view.
American Exceptionalism and the Election Made in Hell (Or Why I’d Vote for Trump Over Hillary)
Of course I'm not an American so I tend to be more concerned about foreign policy than domestic.
Another Australian takes this view too.
John Pilger: Why Hillary Clinton Is More Dangerous Than Donald Trump
I think Hillary is more dangerous for the rest of the world than Trump, who indicates he will be more isolationist.
Hillary is probably a bigger liar too. And that is saying something.
(sigh) Trump has stated that he will develop a plan to defeat ISIS in 30 days. Period. You think that can be accomplished without massive soldiers on the ground?? You have been duped by a conman. Trump is very militaristic. He favored the Iraq invasion. Trump also favored removing Mommar from power. Either way you slice it, Trump is full of shit:
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/09/factchecking-the-nbc-forum/
Trump has also said that he will take the Iraq oil. To the victor goes the spoils. He has stated this many times. How do you think this will happen?
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Two houses in my neighborhood have TrumpPence signs.
One of them has a pickup truck in the driveway with a Bible versus that takes up the entire tailgate. They have 5 signs across their tiny frontage. The house is fairly run-down and the yard is unkempt. They have the windows on their sun porch boarded up with the boards painted to look like windows. That contrasts with their immediate next door neighbor that has a "Pro-America Anti-Trump" sign. The neighbor's house is a fully restored bungalow with an immaculate landscape worthy of a spread in some design magazine. Their one sign is tucked neatly into the flower bed under a groomed weeping yaupon holly.
The other house is right on Rockledge Drive (waterfront road along the Indian River lagoon that has many estate size houses, restored Victorians, etc...). It is a run-down bungalow with a cluttered yard contrasting the 10,000 square foot behemoth next to them. The yard is a mess but could be whimsy cute in the right light. But in with the whimsy are bible quotes and Jesus Saves signs. I've briefly met the old couple that lives there and they are fairly well batshit crazy.
But that is my neighborhood. One of my employees runs a side business installing koi ponds, waterfalls, streams etc... He pays me a nice hourly wage to help out on bigger projects. We put in a $20,000 pond at s $2,000,000 house in one of the nicer lakefront neighborhood over in Orlando. The owner of that house is a Trump supporter. He had a brand new top-shelf Corvette and Lamborghini in the garage. That guy looked and sounded like Rodney Dangerfield but had a very attractive wife that was probably in her late 20's. She treated us to a naked walk-by one morning when she walked by the giant window that looked on the court yard where we were working.
So in my tiny world the overt Trump supporters are white fundamentalist Bible thumpers and a rich lout with a trophy wife.
Also in my world are Republican friends that are just biting their lip and voting Trump because he isn't a Clinton.
Oh, this morning while I was driving to work there was a guy riding a tricycle up an down US1 with 6 American Flags and a YUUGGGE Trump flag flying off the back. He was wearing American Flag print shorts, had arms covered in tattoos, and looked like a tweeker.
I don't think that any of these people that I'm seeing overtly support Trump would have been considered Republicans back in my grandfather's day. Maybe the "southern strategy" worked too well for the Republicans. They successfully recruited all the Kim Davis and George Wallace Democrats into their party but failed to consider what to do after that happened.