Arctish
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No, it is not. The theocratic, islamofascist regime wants to destroy Israel and moreover is also oppressing their own people.Iran is right,
Ad Hominem fallacy.
Just because Iran is governed by a theocratic, Islamofascist regime that is oppressing its own people does not mean Iranian leaders are wrong when they say we (Americans, Europeans, and Western nations) apply double standards when it comes to Israel.
Yes. You and the ayatollahs have a double standard.we have a double standard.
Bullshit! First of all, "Palestinian" as an ethnonym wasn't even invented yet, and neither was Palestinian national identity.Israel has terrorized Palestinians form the founding of Israel.
Irrelevant pedantry. The indigenous people of Palestine and immigrants like Golda Meir who held Palestinian passports were collectively called Palestinians long before Zionists started playing stupid word games about the part of the world governed under the British Mandate for Palestine and coveted by the Jewish Agency for Palestine.
Also, Jews have had many different national/regional/ethnic identities over the past few thousand years, including 'Palestinian'. 'Israeli' did not become an identifier until after the Jewish Agency for Palestine achieved its goal of establishing a Jewish State there.
Besides, Arabs attacked Israel as soon as the new state was proclaimed, with the intention of destroying it.
Of course they did.
Terrorists had murdered thousands of civilians and made hundreds of thousands of refugees, then declared a hostile religious ethno-state right on their borders. Of course they wanted to uproot the terrorists and re-establish a peaceful regime there.
You argue like you think the US would simply accept the overthrow of the government of Mexico by the Sinaloa Cartel, and take in close to a million refugees without complaint.
Jews likewise did not return to areas of Mandatory Palestine now controlled by Arabs (Jordan and Egypt). They were even driven out of other Arab/Muslim countries.Israel seized land without compensation and did not allow return after the lines settled.
The major difference is that the Jews who moved into Israel were fully integrated into Israeli society. They were not kept in "refugee camps" for generations, which is what Arabs did to their brethren in order to use them as pawns against Israel.
There is more than one major difference.
First, your chart does not make any distinctions between Jews who were forced out of places and those who left voluntarily. Algeria is a good example of this. Most of the Jews who left Algeria did so in the 1970s and most of them went to France in order to retain their French citizenship when Algeria was about to become an independent nation. Their experience was very different from that of the Christian, Muslim, and Druze Palestinians who were forced out at gunpoint from their farms and communities in Galilee so that European immigrants could create a State where the non-Jewish indigenous population would not be citizens.
Second, Jews who moved to Israel were rapidly integrated into that society because it was a Zionist society of Jewish immigrants who wanted even more Jews to immigrate so that they could gain control of even more infrastructure and land. I'm pretty sure you already know about Yosef Weitz and the Transfer Committee, and how Jewish immigrants were settled into the recently emptied homes of Palestinians who were forced out, so don't act like that wasn't a big part of the reason why there were no tent cities full of recent Jewish arrivals.
We all know how refugees are usually treated by counties forced to host them. You yourself have been particularly hostile to refugees coming to the US or Europe when they're from a region or ethnic group you dislike, and you absolutely refuse to consider allowing refugees to return to their former homes inside Israel. Neither you nor Israel are standing on the moral high ground here.
Many Palestinian Arabs and Iranians wanted to preserve Israel inside the 1967 borders. So did former Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin. Netanyahu and the most violent of the Zionist factions didn't.No. The basis of the conflict is that many Palestinian Arabs as well as Iranian theocrats want to destroy Israel and take the whole land for themselves.The basis of the conflict is how Israel formed and how it acted since then.
Many Palestinian Arabs want to preserve Israel nowadays in exchange for recognition from the government of Israel that the Palestinian State exists and that its lands in the West Bank and Gaza are not now, and will not become, part of the State of Israel without the consent of the Palestinian people. I'm not sure how most Iranians feel about that but I do know that the ones who demonstrate in the streets against injustice and religious oppression would be in favor of such a plan.
For there to be peace, Israel will have to stop stealing land and resources and rein in the settlers. The Palestinians will have to work with the international community to rein in the militants. Both sides will have to allow the other to prosper, and that's the sticking point, isn't it? For some, allowing <insert religious/ethnic designation here> to prosper is anathema, and there hasn't been enough power or influence among the general public to rein in the assholes. That might be changing in Israel, though.
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