so, are you arguing that it is understandable or also justified? Because even the IDF admits it is unjustified by saying it it against their rules of engagement.
Justified is a very subjective thing. But it's definitely understandable. The Israeli soldiers were up against a vicious enemy which doesn't recognize any problem with sneak attacks by non-uniformed combatants. It was a mistake, but an understandable one in the midst of a war zone.
Yes. I’m not arguing against the understandable aspect of it. However, I believe that those entrusted with weapons of death have a responsibility to be better than that. A similar theme with American police.
I find it telling that you brought up U.S. police instead of the other involved party here, Gazans and their leadership.
What do you think it is telling you?
That you don't think Palestinians capable of being rational or live in peace with Israel. The soft racism of low expectations.
Not telling at all. Shadowy Man, to my recollection, hasn't condoned actions of violence by Hamas... and as such it shouldn't be required for them to speak against violent acts by Hamas.
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That is the 2nd time you’ve flung that nasty slander out of nowhere. It is pretty itonic given your persistent vicious generalisations about Gazans.
I don’t know how you got that from what I said. I was commenting on the IDF soldiers shooting apparently and actually innocent people.
Does that include Gazans?
Also, does Shadowy Man beat his wife?
I view Hamas as a terrorist organization rather than a legitimate law enforcement organization so it is likely that their rules of engagement are to kill innocent civilians, as demonstrated by their actions on October 7th. The comparison breaks down in this way.
Not everyone with a weapon has been entrusted by the State to use them. I am speaking specifically to those that have. I expect criminals won’t follow the same rules as law enforcement. That’s partly what makes them criminals. But military/police shouldn’t act like criminals simply because they carry the same weapons and may encounter said criminals. They have sworn to protect and serve and thus have a responsibility to not kill innocent people.
You are working way too hard to find something disagreeable with their statement.
I'm a pro-life peacenik.
No one changed the subject. Shadowy Man’s meaning was clear - anyone entrusted” includes Gazans because they are obviously part of anyone.
Yes, Gazans should not kill innocent civilians either. But the fact that Hamas will doesn’t thusly make it justifiable for Israelis to do so in return.
