George Floyd murderer's trial

[none]

and now thanks to BLM that crime data is under scrutiny because garbage in garbage out
comprende?

I comprende that #BLM is full of garbage in most cases. Including this.

and your sample size?

 

[laughing dog]

Because the trial wasn't fair. Look at that juror who was out protesting last Summer.

Which juror was out protesting last summer and what was the juror protesting?

 

[Derec]

What does that have to do with attending a MLK memorial?

Why would there be a #MLK memorial in August? That was obviously a #BLM/George Floyd protest, given that it was in August while George Floyd protests and rioting was still in full swing. And even if you were right about the alleged "memorial", the t-shirt he wore is an obvious reference to George Floyd and it also had the letters "BLM". He should never have been on the jury. But I guess the "progressives" do not care about fair trials as long as they get the verdict they want.

 

[none]

What does that have to do with attending a MLK memorial?

Why would there be a #MLK memorial in August? That was obviously a #BLM/George Floyd protest, given that it was in August while George Floyd protests and rioting was still in full swing. And even if you were right about the alleged "memorial", the t-shirt he wore is an obvious reference to George Floyd and it also had the letters "BLM". He should never have been on the jury. But I guess the "progressives" do not care about fair trials as long as they get the verdict they want.

clothing, so overrated

 

[laughing dog]

What does that have to do with attending a MLK memorial?

Why would there be a #MLK memorial in August?

It was to memorialize his "I have a dream speech" that occurred in August 28, 1961.

That was obviously a #BLM/George Floyd protest, given that it was in August while George Floyd protests and rioting was still in full swing. And even if you were right about the alleged "memorial", the t-shirt he wore is an obvious reference to George Floyd and it also had the letters "BLM". He should never have been on the jury. But I guess the "progressives" do not care about fair trials as long as they get the verdict they want.

You are babbling. Why would any sane person think wearing a BLM shirt should automatically disqualify a person from jury duty on a police brutality trial against a black man?

 

[marc]

and now thanks to BLM that crime data is under scrutiny because garbage in garbage out
comprende?

I comprende that #BLM is full of garbage in most cases. Including this.

and your sample size?

He has thousands of samples, all taken from his imagination.

 

[Toni]

What does that have to do with attending a MLK memorial?

Why would there be a #MLK memorial in August? That was obviously a #BLM/George Floyd protest, given that it was in August while George Floyd protests and rioting was still in full swing. And even if you were right about the alleged "memorial", the t-shirt he wore is an obvious reference to George Floyd and it also had the letters "BLM". He should never have been on the jury. But I guess the "progressives" do not care about fair trials as long as they get the verdict they want.

So, is your theory that Chauvin's lawyer was incompetent to not notice how biased this prospective juror was? Or do you think he simply saw it as irrelevant? Or was he being clever and setting up this whole thing to have grounds to appeal the verdict?

 

[Arctish]

I think the theory is either you support the police utterly and completely and therefore would find Chauvin Not Guilty, or you support Black Lives Matter utterly and completely and would therefore find Chauvin Guilty, and that the decision would be made regardless of the quantity or quality of the evidence.

The theory is demonstrably false for most potential jurors but there are some folks right here on this board who obviously decide cases this way.

 

[Gospel]

Where was I when this trash fell off the dump truck? Hollywood (run by white people since conception btw) has glorified a lot of thugs.

Hollywood has nothing to do with crime statistics. If anything, Hollywood goes out of its way to be woke.

Some of those glorifications affect the black community in ways that feed both your preconception that somehow we're all rotten and the reason no mention of good black people will ever leave your lips or fingertips.

I do not have a preconception that you are "all rotten" and obviously many black people, like people of all races are good.
But facts are stubborn things, and crime data do not lie. Reality does not give a damn about what's woke or politically correct.

Thanks for the clarification. I'll lay off the ole Derec thinks all brown people = bad thingy. I agree that reality does not give a damn about what's woke or politically correct. Why don't you join reality? You seem to only post data to counter the woke & politically correct stuff. It's a waste of your time & perspective. I'd like to hear some of your solutions to the issues presented by the data as well as your ideas about how/why the data is what it is. I mean isn't data usually an indication of something? What does it indicate to you? I'm not expecting you to answer these questions right now, I'm only asking you to consider sharing more of your perspective that is not contingent on something woke or politically correct.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

clothing, so overrated

So you're a nudist?

 

[repoman]

From having watched a bodycam of a guy who died from the San Diego transit security, it is my opinion in that case that it was not the guy on the neck but the one putting a huge amount of pressure to his rib cage, especially near the diaphragm. This is what killed Tony Timpa, chest only pressure.

So, I think that it may be possible that Chauvin, while being stupid, lazy, inconsiderate, callous and a burnout case, may not have been what anaconda asphyxiated Floyd.

What was going on with the cop in the middle? Was his weight on Floyd's rib cage?

If the middle cop was not there would be Floyd have lived, but with a neck strain from Chauvin that would have dogged him for weeks?

I don't think the weight was that much on his neck to kill him, but all the same it was uncalled for and a major dick move.

The blind spot to the middle cop is completely pathetic and I am calling out people on this board for ignoring it.

 

[none]

meh. he was gonna die anyways.
good thing there was not taxes involved.

 

[Elixir]

From having watched a bodycam of a guy who died from the San Diego transit security, it is my opinion in that case that it was not the guy on the neck but the one putting a huge amount of pressure to his rib cage, especially near the diaphragm. This is what killed Tony Timpa, chest only pressure.

So, I think that it may be possible that Chauvin, while being stupid, lazy, inconsiderate, callous and a burnout case, may not have been what anaconda asphyxiated Floyd.

What was going on with the cop in the middle? Was his weight on Floyd's rib cage?

If the middle cop was not there would be Floyd have lived, but with a neck strain from Chauvin that would have dogged him for weeks?

I don't think the weight was that much on his neck to kill him, but all the same it was uncalled for and a major dick move.

The blind spot to the middle cop is completely pathetic and I am calling out people on this board for ignoring it.

I think the bottom of that barrel has already been scraped clean by your brothers in racism-masquerading-as-reasoning.

 

[Jarhyn]

From having watched a bodycam of a guy who died from the San Diego transit security, it is my opinion in that case that it was not the guy on the neck but the one putting a huge amount of pressure to his rib cage, especially near the diaphragm. This is what killed Tony Timpa, chest only pressure.

So, I think that it may be possible that Chauvin, while being stupid, lazy, inconsiderate, callous and a burnout case, may not have been what anaconda asphyxiated Floyd.

What was going on with the cop in the middle? Was his weight on Floyd's rib cage?

If the middle cop was not there would be Floyd have lived, but with a neck strain from Chauvin that would have dogged him for weeks?

I don't think the weight was that much on his neck to kill him, but all the same it was uncalled for and a major dick move.

The blind spot to the middle cop is completely pathetic and I am calling out people on this board for ignoring it.

I think the bottom of that barrel has already been scraped clean by your brothers in racism-masquerading-as-reasoning.

There will be plenty of opportunities for justice. This is just the first trial.

 

[repoman]

From having watched a bodycam of a guy who died from the San Diego transit security, it is my opinion in that case that it was not the guy on the neck but the one putting a huge amount of pressure to his rib cage, especially near the diaphragm. This is what killed Tony Timpa, chest only pressure.

So, I think that it may be possible that Chauvin, while being stupid, lazy, inconsiderate, callous and a burnout case, may not have been what anaconda asphyxiated Floyd.

What was going on with the cop in the middle? Was his weight on Floyd's rib cage?

If the middle cop was not there would be Floyd have lived, but with a neck strain from Chauvin that would have dogged him for weeks?

I don't think the weight was that much on his neck to kill him, but all the same it was uncalled for and a major dick move.

The blind spot to the middle cop is completely pathetic and I am calling out people on this board for ignoring it.

I think the bottom of that barrel has already been scraped clean by your brothers in racism-masquerading-as-reasoning.

Looks like Kueng was in the middle and Lane was on the right.

No it is the "racist" negro, Crump, who thinks this may be the case

https://heavy.com/news/2020/05/thomas-lane-j-alexander-kueng/

 

[Elixir]

From having watched a bodycam of a guy who died from the San Diego transit security, it is my opinion in that case that it was not the guy on the neck but the one putting a huge amount of pressure to his rib cage, especially near the diaphragm. This is what killed Tony Timpa, chest only pressure.

So, I think that it may be possible that Chauvin, while being stupid, lazy, inconsiderate, callous and a burnout case, may not have been what anaconda asphyxiated Floyd.

What was going on with the cop in the middle? Was his weight on Floyd's rib cage?

If the middle cop was not there would be Floyd have lived, but with a neck strain from Chauvin that would have dogged him for weeks?

I don't think the weight was that much on his neck to kill him, but all the same it was uncalled for and a major dick move.

The blind spot to the middle cop is completely pathetic and I am calling out people on this board for ignoring it.

I think the bottom of that barrel has already been scraped clean by your brothers in racism-masquerading-as-reasoning.

No it is the "racist" negro, Crump, who thinks this may be the case

https://heavy.com/news/2020/05/thomas-lane-j-alexander-kueng/

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Yeah, they're complicit. Maybe they'll be convicted.
And he would have died anyway, eventually.

 

[lpetrich]

I like this:
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "That a family had to lose a son, brother and father; that a teenage girl had to film and post a murder, that millions across the country had to organize and march just for George Floyd to be seen and valued is not justice. And this verdict is not a substitute for policy change." / Twitter

She sounds off in Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Instagram: “Response to the Derek Chauvin trial & verdict”
She thinks that finding DC guilty isn't real justice, that real justice is "George Floyd going home tonight to be with his family" and "Adam Toledo getting tucked in by his mom tonight" and "when you're pulled over, there not being a gun that's part of that interaction because you have a headlight out" and "your school system not being part of a school-to-prison pipeline" and "a municipality and a government that does not value military and armaments more than healthcare and education and housing."

She also says that it is not good enough because of the cops that were with DC not being charged with anything (that has since changed) and she doesn't like the claim that DC being found guilty is the system working properly.

She criticizes not only Republican politicians, but also Democratic ones. Like Democratic city ones.

She says that she does not feel resolved. She also notes that not every police-shooting victim has a cellphone, and not every one is a "perfect victim", something that she says that news media seem to need and want.

She talked about what makes her feel safe. Being housed. Being unlikely to be thrown out of her home. Guaranteed healthcare. She also wants counselors instead of cops in schools. Budgets are moral documents, she says, because they communicate our priorities.


Ayanna Pressley on Twitter: "Black men, I love you, and you deserve to grow old." / Twitter
and
Charles Booker on Twitter: "@AyannaPressley Congresswoman, I needed to hear this." / Twitter
He ran for US Senate in Kentucky in 2020.

 

[Derec]

And this verdict is not a substitute for policy change."

AOC's idea of "policy change" is defunding police. When Bill deBlowjob cut NYPD budget by $1 billion, she thought that it did not go far enough and that defunding should mean defunding.

and "Adam Toledo getting tucked in by his mom tonight"

The same Adam Toledo who at 13 would stay away from home for days on end hanging out with Latin Kings gangsters doing stupid shit like shooting at passing cars?
He was not some innocent kid as she portrays him to be.

and "when you're pulled over, there not being a gun that's part of that interaction because you have a headlight out"

Nobody has a gun pulled on them for a mere headlight. But if you have a warrant for an illegal gun and then resist arrest, things escalate because of the perp's decision to escalate.

and "your school system not being part of a school-to-prison pipeline"

What does that even mean? That troublemakers in schools are not supposed to be disciplined because AOC blames school discipline for preteen and teen delinquents graduating to adult crimes with adult prison sentences?

and "a municipality and a government that does not value military and armaments more than healthcare and education and housing."

We live in a dangerous world and defense is a necessity.

She criticizes not only Republican politicians, but also Democratic ones. Like Democratic city ones.

They have not gotten around to abolishing police yet, so AOC criticizes them.

She says that she does not feel resolved. She also notes that not every police-shooting victim has a cellphone, and not every one is a "perfect victim", something that she says that news media seem to need and want.

News media, especially CNN and MSNBC but also newspapers like NY Times love to canonize "black and brown" people shot by police, even when they are far from perfect.
Michael Brown was a "gentle giant" who was "spreading the word of Jesus Christ" and the robbery story was downplayed. As was George Floyd's criminal background or Jacob Blake's sexual assault warrant (a student working at a college radio station was fired for daring point it out!) or Daunte Wright's robbery charges and weapons warrants.

She also wants counselors instead of cops in schools.

We need both. Counselors cannot help where police response is required and vice versa.

 

[lpetrich]

Responding to AOC,

and "a municipality and a government that does not value military and armaments more than healthcare and education and housing."

We live in a dangerous world and defense is a necessity.

Derec, do you really think that we Americans live in a war zone? Also, do you really want to promote government dependency for protection?

She criticizes not only Republican politicians, but also Democratic ones. Like Democratic city ones.

They have not gotten around to abolishing police yet, so AOC criticizes them.

They've had decades to do so, and they haven't.

She says that she does not feel resolved. She also notes that not every police-shooting victim has a cellphone, and not every one is a "perfect victim", something that she says that news media seem to need and want.

News media, especially CNN and MSNBC but also newspapers like NY Times love to canonize "black and brown" people shot by police, even when they are far from perfect.

How have CNN and MSNBC and the NYT "canonized" those people?

Michael Brown was a "gentle giant" who was "spreading the word of Jesus Christ" and the robbery story was downplayed. As was George Floyd's criminal background or Jacob Blake's sexual assault warrant (a student working at a college radio station was fired for daring point it out!) or Daunte Wright's robbery charges and weapons warrants.

Derec, you're proving AOC's point. It seems like nothing is ever good enough for you, nothing will ever make you say that a cop used excessive force.

With the possible exception of Mohamed Noor.

 

[lpetrich]

Minnesota judge finds aggravating factors in George Floyd murder | Reuters

In a six-page ruling dated Tuesday, District Court Judge Peter Cahill found that prosecutors had shown there were four aggravating factors in the death of Floyd, a 46-year-old Black man.

The judge said Chauvin, who is white, abused his position of trust and authority and treated Floyd with particular cruelty. He committed the crime as part of a group with three other officers and did so with children present, Cahill ruled.

"The slow death of George Floyd occurring over approximately six minutes of his positional asphyxia was particularly cruel in that Mr. Floyd was begging for his life and obviously terrified by the knowledge that he was likely to die but during which the defendant objectively remained indifferent to Mr. Floyd's pleas," Cahill wrote.

Also,
Judge postpones trial for three ex-cops in George Floyd case | Reuters

A judge in Minneapolis on Thursday postponed the trial of three former policemen accused of taking part in the murder of George Floyd to March 2022, saying the federal case against the men should proceed first, local media reported.