Government shutdown again?

[Jimmy Higgins]

Representative Eli Crane (*-AZ), seen below in the Film Samurai Cop, voted to oust McCarthy.

And we are also up to 6, which means, barring McCarthy begging some Dems to change their mind, we will be Speakerless.

 

[Gospel]

Ousting the Speaker from within their own party is a clear indicator of instability and division within the majority. Yet, many Republican voters will overlook this entirely.

 

[TomC]

4 GOP votes to oust McCarthy, at least temporarily from the Speakership. One more and it is over... for at least a bit, which could be a hour or a week or a month?

What's Kitara Ravache got to say about this?
He did post a heartfelt plea to return dignity and character to Congress.
Something like that.

Is he for ousting McCarthy or opposed?
Tom

 

[T.G.G. Moogly]

Ousting the Speaker from within their own party is a clear indicator of instability and division within the majority. Yet, many Republican voters will overlook this entirely.

But not the ones who enjoy their soap operas.

 

[marc]

aaaand he's out!

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-us-canada-66998864

 

[blastula]

Passed 216-210.

There were 8 Rs who votes yes.

Biggs
Buck
Burchett
Crane
Gaetz
Good
Mace
Rosendale

 

[blastula]

Patrick McHenry is named speaker pro tem, Looks like all he will do is preside until a new speaker is voted in.

This is him.

 

[lpetrich]

The previous vote:
Roll Call 518 | Bill Number: H. Res. 757

Oct 03, 2023, 02:43 PM | 118th Congress, 1st Session
Vote Question: On Motion to Table
Declaring the office of Speaker of the House of Representatives to be vacant.
Vote Type: Yea-And-Nay
Status: Failed

R: Y 208, N 11, nv 2
D: N 207, nv 5
Ttl: N 208, N 218, nv 7

The R's who voted against it: Biggs, Buck, Burchett, Crane, Davidson, Gaetz, Good(VA), Mace, Mills, Rosendale, Spartz

Consulting table - Wiktionary, the free dictionary I think that "to table" meant this:

(chiefly US) To remove from the agenda, to postpone dealing with; to shelve (to indefinitely postpone consideration or discussion of something). [from 19th c.]
The legislature tabled the amendment, so they will not be discussing it until later.
The motion was tabled, ensuring that it would not be taken up until a later date.

However, it also lists the opposite:

(non-US) To put on the table of a commission or legislative assembly; to propose for formal discussion or consideration, to put on the agenda. [from 17th c.]
2019 January 16, Heather Stewart, Daniel Boffey, The Guardian:
In a raucous Commons, the Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn, confirmed he had tabled a formal motion of confidence in the government, backed by other opposition leaders, which MPs would vote on on Wednesday.

The most recent vote is still not up at clerk.house.gov

 

[lpetrich]

It's now up:
Roll Call 519 | Bill Number: H. Res. 757

Oct 03, 2023, 04:42 PM | 118th Congress, 1st Session
Vote Question: On Agreeing to the Resolution
Declaring the office of Speaker of the House of Representatives to be vacant.
Vote Type: Yea-And-Nay
Status: Passed

R: Y 8, N 210, nv 3
D: Y 208, nv 4
Ttl: Y 216, N 210, nv 7

The Republicans who voted for vacating the position: Biggs, Buck, Burchett, Crane, Gaetz, Good (VA), Mace, Rosendale

These R's voted against shelving the vote but voted no: Davidson, Mills, Spartz

The earlier nonvoters: Bush D, Carter (TX) R, Luna R, Pelosi D, Peltola D, Sykes D, Wilson (FL) D

The most recent nonvoters: Bush D, Carter (TX) R, Gooden (TX) R, Luna R, Pelosi D, Peltola D, Sykes D

How will Matt Gaetz explain his vote to his good friend Marjorie Taylor Greene? Unlike him, MTG voted against kicking out KMC.

 

[lpetrich]

 January 2023 Speaker of the United States House of Representatives election

 October 2023 Speaker of the United States House of Representatives election

Did not vote for KMC in the first 11 rounds of last January's vote: Biggs, Bishop, Boebert, Brecheen, Cloud, Clyde, Crane, Donalds, Gaetz, Good, Gosar, Harris, Luna, Miller, Norman, Ogles, Perry, Rosendale, Roy, Self, Spartz

In the last 4 rounds: Biggs, Boebert, Crane, Gaetz, Good (VA), Rosendale

Vacating + last 4 rounds: Biggs, Crane, Gaetz, Good (VA), Rosendale

 Freedom Caucus - also a member: Biggs, Crane, Good (VA), Rosendale

In April 2021, a faction within the Freedom Caucus, led by Paul Gosar and Marjorie Taylor Greene, attempted to form a new splinter group called the 'America First Caucus', along with Matt Gaetz. Senior members of the Freedom Caucus reportedly reacted with "fury" to the proposal, with Ken Buck publicly denouncing it.[74] The new caucus was later scrapped.[75]

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

Live updates: Kevin McCarthy ousted as Speaker of the House after Matt Gaetz pushes vote

Kevin McCarthy said he will not run again for Speaker of the House after he was ousted earlier Tuesday. Follow here for the latest.

www.cnn.com

McCarthy says he is out. My guess is Jordan or someone like Jordan, IE a fucking asshole partisan.

 

[blastula]

 

[lpetrich]

H.R.5860 - 118th Congress (2023-2024): Making continuing appropriations for fiscal year 2024, and for other purposes. | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

President Biden signed the bill into law on September 30, after the House and the Senate passed it. Press Release: Bill Signed: H.R. 5860 | The White House

On Saturday, September 30, 2023, the President signed into law:

H.R. 5860, which provides fiscal year appropriations to Federal agencies through November 17, 2023, for continuing projects of the Federal Government and extends several expiring authorities.

Be prepared for some more drama llama next month.

Part of it depends on who will be the next Speaker, and how that Speaker got into office. Will that Speaker's election be obstructed by Matt Gaetz and his friends, as they did last January? Will that Speaker make some deal with the Democrats?

 

[lpetrich]

D.C.'s attorney general charges Jamaal Bowman for triggering fire alarm - Live Updates - POLITICO

The charging documents conclude there was “probable cause to believe that the defendant willfully or knowingly gave a false fire alarm within the District of Columbia.”

Bowman is slated to be arraigned Thursday morning in D.C. Superior Court. A spokesperson for the D.C. Attorney General's office said Bowman was "pleading guilty and has agreed to pay the maximum fine.” It’s unclear if federal prosecutors are reviewing the matter as well, and a spokesperson for the U.S. attorney's office declined to comment.

Bowman said in a statement he was “thankful for the quick resolution.”

“I am responsible for activating a fire alarm, I will be paying the fine issued, and look forward to these charges being ultimately dropped,” he said.

Also,

Why Speaker Johnson makes a shutdown less likely

The right flank of the House GOP trusts their newly elected speaker to pass individual spending bills, so they're giving him more grace to avert a shutdown than they gave to Kevin McCarthy.

...
The government will shut down in 24 days without a funding solution. Unlike Kevin McCarthy, fledgling Speaker Mike Johnson likely won’t get booted from his new role for backing a spending patch to stave off a Nov. 17 funding lapse.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

It isn't easy to fire a Speaker, unless, that rule still exists and Gaetz can do this all over again.

 

[crazyfingers]

It isn't easy to fire a Speaker, unless, that rule still exists and Gaetz can do this all over again.

I have been wondering if that rule still exists.

 

[Elixir]

It isn't easy to fire a Speaker, unless, that rule still exists and Gaetz Trump can do this all over again.

FIFY

I’d have expected to hear about it if that rule was repealed.

 

[lpetrich]

Text - H.Res.812 - 118th Congress (2023-2024): Censuring Representative Jamaal Bowman. | Congress.gov | Library of Congress
Rep. McClain, Lisa C. [R-MI-9] (Introduced 10/25/2023)

Whereas, on September 30, 2023, as the House of Representatives was considering legislation to avoid a cession of appropriations and shutdown of government, Jamaal Bowman, the Representative from the 16th District from the State of New York, pulled a fire alarm to obstruct the proceedings of the House;

(on how deliberately making false alarms is a criminal offense, along with obstructing official proceedings)
and proposing

(4) Representative Bowman shall be removed from all committee assignments forthwith and prohibited from holding a seat on any committee of the House during the One Hundred Eighteenth Congress without a majority vote of the House of Representatives.

This resolution has 29 cosponsors, all original, and like the sponsor, all Republicans. Among them was MTG, Nancy Mace of South Carolina, Nicole Malliotakis of Staten Island, and George Santos of Long Island.

 

[lpetrich]

House Speaker Mike Johnson proposes 2-step stopgap funding bill to avert government shutdown - CBS News

House Speaker Mike Johnson unveiled his proposal on Saturday to avoid a partial government shutdown by extending government funding for some agencies and programs until Jan. 19, and continuing funding for others until Feb. 2.

The approach is unusual for a stopgap spending bill. Usually, lawmakers extend funding until a certain date for all programs. Johnson decided to go with the combination approach, addressing concerns from GOP lawmakers seeking to avoid being presented with a massive spending bill just before the holidays.

House GOP cuts Speaker Johnson’s honeymoon short | The Hill

GOP leadership this week yanked two spending bills from the floor amid disputes on spending and other controversial policy items. With a government funding deadline less than a week away, the conference seems hopelessly divided on how to avert a shutdown.

Now, centrists in the House GOP who had long acquiesced to the right flank’s demands under McCarthy are indicating they are no longer willing to do so under Johnson.

“Us mainline or frontline guys … in the Biden districts, we’re not gonna get walked over anymore,” Rep. Don Bacon (R-Neb.) said before the House left town Thursday.

“There’s gotta be compromise,” he told reporters, saying goodbye to the idea that “everything’s got to be aligned with the Freedom Caucus — that doesn’t work.”

 

[lpetrich]

Analyst dubs Speaker’s stopgap funding bill a ‘disaster’ | The Hill

“This two-step continuing resolution is a necessary bill to place House Republicans in the best position to fight for conservative victories,” Johnson said in a statement on Saturday. “The bill will stop the absurd holiday-season omnibus tradition of massive, loaded up spending bills introduced right before the Christmas recess.”

“Separating out the CR from the supplemental funding debates places our conference in the best position to fight for fiscal responsibility, oversight over Ukraine aid, and meaningful policy changes at our Southern border,” he continued.

White House reacts to Speaker’s ‘extreme’ stopgap funding bill | The Hill

“This proposal is just a recipe for more Republican chaos and more shutdowns—full stop,” a statement from White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre read. “With just days left before an Extreme Republican Shutdown—and after shutting down Congress for three weeks after they ousted their own leader—House Republicans are wasting precious time with an unserious proposal that has been panned by members of both parties.”

Shutdown standoff: White House preps for Johnson to fail - POLITICO - "Biden aides are betting that Johnson won’t be able to figure this out and are preparing along two tracks."

— First is the potential shutdown: Nobody is rooting for a shutdown, but it isn’t lost on Democrats that the recent political history of these funding standoffs is that they usually redound to the benefit of one party — and it isn’t the GOP.

...
— And then there’s the supplemental: If a shutdown doesn’t materialize, or if it does and gets resolved quickly, the fight over Biden’s $106 billion national security funding request would return to the center of White House-Congress negotiations. And Johnson can expect to face a new foreign policy buzzsaw when it comes to aid to Ukraine.

The House Republicans: what a bunch of immature, squabbling losers.