Home Invasion by ICE Now Legal

[WAB]

Fascism
My question:
How does this square with “stand your ground”?
I assume that the advice is to aim for their face, like they do.

What I think is that we may actually see some armed citizen shoot an agent or two. If things keep escalating the way they are, and if ICE literally starts breaking into homes more and more, I'd argue it's inevitable.

 

[southernhybrid]

A lot of people think we are on the brink of a civil war. It may be calm in my little city, but not so much in a lot of large urban areas in blue states, thanks to ICE and the puppy shooter who defends them.

 

[ZiprHead]

Either you are part of the US and follow its laws or you should succeed from the union.

Have you told this to Donald Trump? You just blew up every irony meter on the planet.

 

[ZiprHead]

I for one don't like the dramatic increase in federal power. This is a very bad precedent that I wish there were other better solutions. I for one don't want any kind of police breaking into my house without a proper warrant.

That being said, I would not blame Trump or MAGA any of this including the woman who got wasted in Minneapolis. Because it was the Biden administration who created and invited this situation in the first place inviting the millions of immigration in the first place. I also do not blame Trump or MAGA that sanction cities have flourished to the point known criminals will not be transferred peacefully from cities to federal authorities. Sanctuary cities did all that on their own for political reasons to monopolize more votes on their side....And it is also not Trump or MAGA's fault these local politicians in these sanctuary cities do everything they possible can to thwart federal officials who are there by an elected mandate.

Can you cite the invitation Biden sent out?

Biden was following the laws as they were written.They were written to provide businesses a steady supply of cheap labor. Trump used that as a major campaign slogan because it would rile up his base, calling them rapists and murderers, when in fact aliens have a lower crime rate than natural citizens in the US.

Frankly I don't remember you ever mentioning aliens as a problem before trump came along. Trump said it's a problem so you said fuck yeah without even thinking about it.

IMHO, Abraham Lincoln would be rolling in his grave over sanctuary cities. Either you are part of the US and follow its laws or you should succeed from the union.

You have no idea what Lincoln would have thought about this situation. Trying to make this "patriotic" by bringing Lincoln in to this is pathetic.

 

[Elixir]

IMHO, Abraham Lincoln would be rolling in his grave over sanctuary cities. Either you are part of the US and follow its laws or you should succeed from the union.

You have no idea what Lincoln would have thought about this situation. Trying to make this "patriotic" by bringing Lincoln in to this is pathetic.

“Pathetic” is the burrow that protects libberpublican trumpapologists.
It smells of their feces, yet they revel in their safety.

 

[RVonse]

Can you cite the invitation Biden sent out?

Just check the record of sane and coherent executive orders that Trump had in place that Biden immediately brought down when he assumed office. That was the invitation to the rest of the world that his administration would not be watching the border. And during the Bidens administration we know illegal border crossings picked up because Elon Musk filmed them on a daily basis and posted their masses on X.

In the meantime Biden and Democrats said there was nothing to see even though everyone who wasn't a moron knew that was false. The US electorate got so fed up and it became one of the main issues Harris lost the last election to Trump.

 

[Tigers!]

I'm absolutely sure that our resident libertarians will be up in arms at this dramatic increase in federal power!

I must admit, this thread has served a purpose other than what I intended.
It has revealed the intellectual bankruptcy of both our libberpublican hypocrites as well as our “I’m not a trumpsucker” faux liberals. No outrage from Jason, Derec, Swiz, Emily, or any of the others.

Hopefully I am not one of those (non-yankee) faux liberals you decry.

I think this is a stark revelation of their dishonesty and/or confusion about their own contorted “positions”.

Chiros and physios must be really, really busy in the US lately.

 

[ZiprHead]

Just check the record of sane and coherent executive orders that Trump had in place that Biden immediately brought down when he assumed office.

Instead of making us do the work for you, why don't you cite those executive orders yourself?

 

[GenesisNemesis]

I for one don't like the dramatic increase in federal power. This is a very bad precedent that I wish there were other better solutions. I for one don't want any kind of police breaking into my house without a proper warrant.

That being said, I would not blame Trump or MAGA any of this including the woman who got wasted in Minneapolis. Because it was the Biden administration who created and invited this situation in the first place inviting the millions of immigration in the first place. I also do not blame Trump or MAGA that sanction cities have flourished to the point known criminals will not be transferred peacefully from cities to federal authorities. Sanctuary cities did all that on their own for political reasons to monopolize more votes on their side....And it is also not Trump or MAGA's fault these local politicians in these sanctuary cities do everything they possible can to thwart federal officials who are there by an elected mandate.

Can you cite the invitation Biden sent out?

Biden was following the laws as they were written.They were written to provide businesses a steady supply of cheap labor. Trump used that as a major campaign slogan because it would rile up his base, calling them rapists and murderers, when in fact aliens have a lower crime rate than natural citizens in the US.

Frankly I don't remember you ever mentioning aliens as a problem before trump came along. Trump said it's a problem so you said fuck yeah without even thinking about it.

IMHO, Abraham Lincoln would be rolling in his grave over sanctuary cities. Either you are part of the US and follow its laws or you should succeed from the union.

You have no idea what Lincoln would have thought about this situation. Trying to make this "patriotic" by bringing Lincoln in to this is pathetic.

He could just do one second of Googling to find what Lincoln thought about immigration.

Lincoln and Immigration - President Lincoln's Cottage | A Home for Brave Ideas

By Zach Klitzman “If there are any abroad who desire to make this the land of their adoption, it is not in my heart to throw aught in their way, to prevent them from coming to the United States.” Abraham Lincoln After his election to the presidency in November of 1860, Abraham Lincoln embarked...

www.lincolncottage.org

But nope, even that requires too
much brain energy.

 

[Patooka]

hat being said, I would not blame Trump or MAGA any of this including the woman who got wasted in Minneapolis. Because it was the Biden administration who created and invited this situation in the first place inviting the millions of immigration in the first place. I also do not blame Trump or MAGA that sanction cities have flourished to the point known criminals will not be transferred peacefully from cities to federal authorities. Sanctuary cities did all that on their own for political reasons to monopolize more votes on their side....And it is also not Trump or MAGA's fault these local politicians in these sanctuary cities do everything they possible can to thwart federal officials who are there by an elected mandate.

"Baby, look what you made me do".

 

[Millrat]

I for one don't like the dramatic increase in federal power

It’s not a dramatic increase in federal power. It’s an objectively unlawful policy.

 

[Jarhyn]

The reality is that if a Democrat had sent the national guard into Alabama and a black panther soldier shot some person, there would be a successful impeachment on 2 weeks time, so as to prevent the armed overthrow of government amid unrest.

But here, we have every soul who would be a part of that push acting quiet as a mouse and like this is just fine, now... Or actively pulling the "look what you made me do" card.

 

[scombrid]

I'm absolutely sure that our resident libertarians will be up in arms at this dramatic increase in federal power!

Deafening silence; our resident Libbertards are basically Republicans.

Aaron Dorr style Rudhdoony ‘libertarians’.

 

[Toni]

I for one don't like the dramatic increase in federal power. This is a very bad precedent that I wish there were other better solutions. I for one don't want any kind of police breaking into my house without a proper warrant.

That being said, I would not blame Trump or MAGA any of this including the woman who got wasted in Minneapolis. Because it was the Biden administration who created and invited this situation in the first place inviting the millions of immigration in the first place. I also do not blame Trump or MAGA that sanction cities have flourished to the point known criminals will not be transferred peacefully from cities to federal authorities. Sanctuary cities did all that on their own for political reasons to monopolize more votes on their side....And it is also not Trump or MAGA's fault these local politicians in these sanctuary cities do everything they possible can to thwart federal officials who are there by an elected mandate.

IMHO, Abraham Lincoln would be rolling in his grave over sanctuary cities. Either you are part of the US and follow its laws or you should succeed from the union.

Bullshit. The Republicans steadfastly refused to pass any immigration reform on Trump’s orders.

Renee Good was murdered.

Reading your posts is a waste.

 

[Shadowy Man]

I for one don't like the dramatic increase in federal power. This is a very bad precedent that I wish there were other better solutions. I for one don't want any kind of police breaking into my house without a proper warrant.

That being said, I would not blame Trump or MAGA any of this including the woman who got wasted in Minneapolis. Because it was the Biden administration who created and invited this situation in the first place inviting the millions of immigration in the first place. I also do not blame Trump or MAGA that sanction cities have flourished to the point known criminals will not be transferred peacefully from cities to federal authorities. Sanctuary cities did all that on their own for political reasons to monopolize more votes on their side....And it is also not Trump or MAGA's fault these local politicians in these sanctuary cities do everything they possible can to thwart federal officials who are there by an elected mandate.

so Biden’s actions justify Trump’s violation of constitutional rights?

 

[Elixir]

I for one don't like the dramatic increase in federal power. This is a very bad precedent that I wish there were other better solutions. I for one don't want any kind of police breaking into my house without a proper warrant.

That being said, I would not blame Trump or MAGA any of this including the woman who got wasted in Minneapolis. Because it was the Biden administration who created and invited this situation in the first place inviting the millions of immigration in the first place. I also do not blame Trump or MAGA that sanction cities have flourished to the point known criminals will not be transferred peacefully from cities to federal authorities. Sanctuary cities did all that on their own for political reasons to monopolize more votes on their side....And it is also not Trump or MAGA's fault these local politicians in these sanctuary cities do everything they possible can to thwart federal officials who are there by an elected mandate.

so Biden’s actions justify Trump’s violation of constitutional rights?

Any excuse will suffice for libberpublicans.

 

[unapologetic]

Somebody is going to get shot over this.

That is exactly what is needed.
Some will say that is what Rump wants. But he is not going to stop till he gets it. We need to fight back, or k*ll the repugnant party.

Reading your posts is a waste.

I agree. I put RVonse on 'ignore' months ago.

 

[Elixir]

Somebody is going to get shot over this.

That is exactly what is needed.
Some will say that is what Rump wants. But he is not going to stop till he gets it. We need to fight back, or k*ll the repugnant party

Another one murdered by Trump thugs. Now the excuse for summary execution is that he was armed.
I’m sure our 2A zealots will join the protests, right?

 

[laughing dog]

Can you cite the invitation Biden sent out?

Just check the record of sane and coherent executive orders that Trump had in place that Biden immediately brought down when he assumed office. That was the invitation to the rest of the world that his administration would not be watching the border. And during the Bidens administration we know illegal border crossings picked up because Elon Musk filmed them on a daily basis and posted their masses on X.

What “sane and coherent “ executive orders did Trump have in place that Biden obviated?

I ask, because one does not associate “sane” or “coherent “ with Trump.

I

 

[crazyfingers]

RVonse on 'ignore' months ago.

Me too