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How should west respond to potential (likely) Russian invasion of Ukraine?

Bluster and threats were the hallmark of the Soviets. Mostly with client stats that could not fight back.

The question at the start was whether Putin was rational or not. Would he use nukes and go out in a blaze of glory if NATO went into Ukraine?

I heard intelligence analysts say he is rational, I am not so sure. Keep lying long enough and you can believe your own lies.

Would he rather face a nuclear war than back down?

That is what analysts at the CIA are paid to figure out.
Fundies who want to die for their god would gladly incinerate humanity. Is Russian Hitler such a person? Are the leaders of Iran such people? Is Kim such a person? None of them are. So I don't know why we pay any attention to these guys when they threaten nukes. They're not going to do it and they know it. And they also know we'll cower like a bunch of bullied kids on the playground giving press to their every word. Shame on us for being so fucking gullible and letting Ukrainians suffer so much at the hands of these fuckers.
But Russians don't believe what Putin says. They just believe that it's best for them if they say they believe it. That's something different

Barbos doesn't live in Russia. His is a western perspective. An alternative facts perspective
 
The US Army is currently moving equipment and vehicles from a military storage depot in Mannheim, Germany to warehouses in Powidz near Poznan. The location is adjacent to a military airfield which would allow equipment to be rapidly redeployed by air if necessary.
In total 87 Abrams tanks, around 150 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles and 18 M109 155mm self-propelled howitzers as well as ammunition and materiel, sufficient to equip a Brigade Combat Team (BCT), will be moved between now and September.
NATO has taken measures to enhance its “forward presence” by positioning multinational battlegroups in Bulgaria, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Romania and Slovakia supported by naval vessels and combat aircraft along NATO’s eastern flank, from the Baltic Sea in the north to the Black Sea in the south.
Earlier this month the construction of a base for another 1,000 US troops was completed in Świętoszów, Poland which will double as a training base for allied troops as well as rotations of combat-ready forces.
NATO needs to prepare for all-out conflict with Russia, Poland’s army chief of staff General Wieslaw Kukula told a press conference on Wednesday, July 10 – a sentiment that was shared by Poland’s president Andrzej Duda in an interview with Wirtualna Polska less than a week later.
Duda warned that if Ukraine loses “the potential for war between Russia and the West would be extremely close.”
NATO troops needs to find a reason to move into Ukraine.

A President Harris would at a minimum walk Biden's walk. As the first female president, she can not show any weakness; not in the face of that belligerent little shit stain, Putin.
 
Bluster and threats were the hallmark of the Soviets. Mostly with client stats that could not fight back.

The question at the start was whether Putin was rational or not. Would he use nukes and go out in a blaze of glory if NATO went into Ukraine?

I heard intelligence analysts say he is rational, I am not so sure. Keep lying long enough and you can believe your own lies.

Would he rather face a nuclear war than back down?

That is what analysts at the CIA are paid to figure out.
Fundies who want to die for their god would gladly incinerate humanity. Is Russian Hitler such a person? Are the leaders of Iran such people? Is Kim such a person? None of them are. So I don't know why we pay any attention to these guys when they threaten nukes. They're not going to do it and they know it. And they also know we'll cower like a bunch of bullied kids on the playground giving press to their every word. Shame on us for being so fucking gullible and letting Ukrainians suffer so much at the hands of these fuckers.
But Russians don't believe what Putin says. They just believe that it's best for them if they say they believe it. That's something different

Barbos doesn't live in Russia. His is a western perspective. An alternative facts perspective
Sure, russians all support banderites.
 
Bluster and threats were the hallmark of the Soviets. Mostly with client stats that could not fight back.

The question at the start was whether Putin was rational or not. Would he use nukes and go out in a blaze of glory if NATO went into Ukraine?

I heard intelligence analysts say he is rational, I am not so sure. Keep lying long enough and you can believe your own lies.

Would he rather face a nuclear war than back down?

That is what analysts at the CIA are paid to figure out.
Fundies who want to die for their god would gladly incinerate humanity. Is Russian Hitler such a person? Are the leaders of Iran such people? Is Kim such a person? None of them are. So I don't know why we pay any attention to these guys when they threaten nukes. They're not going to do it and they know it. And they also know we'll cower like a bunch of bullied kids on the playground giving press to their every word. Shame on us for being so fucking gullible and letting Ukrainians suffer so much at the hands of these fuckers.
But Russians don't believe what Putin says. They just believe that it's best for them if they say they believe it. That's something different

Barbos doesn't live in Russia. His is a western perspective. An alternative facts perspective
Sure, russians all support banderites.
You support Putin so you spport a Nazi.
 
Does Dr Z know something about Barbos we do not?

As we are dealing with conspiracy theories...

Of course Barbos is not in Russia, it should have been obvious. He is a Chinese provocateur in Beijing.

Or maybe a Russian in Brighton Beach NYC.

Or maybe he is Russian AI.

The possibilities are infinite.

Or maybe he is what he appears to be, a holdover relic of the Soviet Union. A revisionist Russian historian.

He says he has a PHD in physics. My guess he ended up working at a gas plant.

As we all know, Siberia really belongs to China.
 
Anything to support the notion that Putin does not have support of russian population.
How can he possibly have support?
 
Interesting confession about Russia’s economy by the head of their central bank, Elvira Nabiullina, indicating that it’s entering “stormy waters,” in her words. She predicts a slowdown in growth to .5 - 1.5%.


Russia has lost something like 253 billion dollars in private capital. 1 million highly skilled people have emigrated, constituting 10% of their high tech work force. 1/3 of millionaires have fled. This is a huge blow to the long term prospects of the economy. Russia also faces labor shortages and they do not have the capability to expand production.

Interest rates are now running at 18%. Inflation is also rising, hitting 9%, as Putin is forced to produce more military hardware to support his war on Ukraine.

Furthermore, trades with China are threatened because Russians don’t have the ability to pay. This is due to sanctions imposed by the West. Payments are bouncing back, and most take 6 months to effectuate.


Putin has really fucked over Russia especially in the long run.
 
Interesting confession about Russia’s economy by the head of their central bank, Elvira Nabiullina, indicating that it’s entering “stormy waters,” in her words. She predicts a slowdown in growth to .5 - 1.5%.


Russia has lost something like 253 billion dollars in private capital. 1 million highly skilled people have emigrated, constituting 10% of their high tech work force. 1/3 of millionaires have fled. This is a huge blow to the long term prospects of the economy. Russia also faces labor shortages and they do not have the capability to expand production.

Interest rates are now running at 18%. Inflation is also rising, hitting 9%, as Putin is forced to produce more military hardware to support his war on Ukraine.

Furthermore, trades with China are threatened because Russians don’t have the ability to pay. This is due to sanctions imposed by the West. Payments are bouncing back, and most take 6 months to effectuate.


Putin has really fucked over Russia especially in the long run.
going around and trying misconstrue anything into "Russia is losing".
 
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Interesting confession about Russia’s economy by the head of their central bank, Elvira Nabiullina, indicating that it’s entering “stormy waters,” in her words. She predicts a slowdown in growth to .5 - 1.5%.


Russia has lost something like 253 billion dollars in private capital. 1 million highly skilled people have emigrated, constituting 10% of their high tech work force. 1/3 of millionaires have fled. This is a huge blow to the long term prospects of the economy. Russia also faces labor shortages and they do not have the capability to expand production.

Interest rates are now running at 18%. Inflation is also rising, hitting 9%, as Putin is forced to produce more military hardware to support his war on Ukraine.

Furthermore, trades with China are threatened because Russians don’t have the ability to pay. This is due to sanctions imposed by the West. Payments are bouncing back, and most take 6 months to effectuate.


Putin has really fucked over Russia especially in the long run.
going around and trying misconstrue anything into "Russia is losing".
Did she say it or not? What do you say the inflation rate is?

And They sure as hell aren’t winning.
 
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Did she say it or not? What do you say the inflation rate is?
Google can't find her saying that. Inflation rate is 18%. That;'s to be expected in overheated economy
And They sure as hell aren’t winning.
Actually, we are.

Nabiulina admitted that she was late to react to economy overheating resulting in inflation.
Unemployment is too low and and there are talks about inviting guest workers from Iran, North Korea and even Turkey I think.
 
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Interesting confession about Russia’s economy by the head of their central bank, Elvira Nabiullina, indicating that it’s entering “stormy waters,” in her words. She predicts a slowdown in growth to .5 - 1.5%.


Russia has lost something like 253 billion dollars in private capital. 1 million highly skilled people have emigrated, constituting 10% of their high tech work force. 1/3 of millionaires have fled. This is a huge blow to the long term prospects of the economy. Russia also faces labor shortages and they do not have the capability to expand production.

Interest rates are now running at 18%. Inflation is also rising, hitting 9%, as Putin is forced to produce more military hardware to support his war on Ukraine.

Furthermore, trades with China are threatened because Russians don’t have the ability to pay. This is due to sanctions imposed by the West. Payments are bouncing back, and most take 6 months to effectuate.


Putin has really fucked over Russia especially in the long run.
....going around and trying misconstrue anything into "Russia is losing".
Well, they sure the heck haven't won yet.
 
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