You have said multiple times that you do not believe that we know our own truth, that you think we all believe in gods as you do, we just don’t know it, etc.
I don't recall making those statements.
Maybe, but the direct quotations need to be here. Please direct quote me preferably with links to the original post(s).
And everyone who reads English knows that “could it be you are?” Is not the same question as “are you?”
I suppose so, but I don't know what you're referring to.
But agsin, it’s all there.
All there? In bigfoot's lair?
I've read what you've posted. You deny believing in any Gods.
Correction: I *DO NOT* believe in any god(dess)(es).
I do not “deny believing in,” as if there is a question that I am lying or deluded.
Could it be that you are just mistaken, and there may be some theism deep in the recesses of your subconscious?
Some might ask, “why do you engage with Unknown Soldier when he repeatedly misrepresents you, and says things about you that you clearly did not say?” And I answer, because he’s not the only one in the world who does this, and it is useful to practice recognizing and neutralizing that kind of misrepresentation. This is like a little pop quiz.
I will take care not to misrepresent what you say being diligent to direct quote what you and post links if necessary. In fairness I should point out that you've misrepresented what I've said several times in this post alone!
We should practice what we preach.
They take a persons clear and unequivocal statement, and they switch it out to equivocal language, claim it is an exact synonym, and then they point to their own inserted language and report you as equivocal. It’s slick and it’s interesting how the nuances of words, juxtaposed with their broad comonalities, can be used to attempt to undermine your intended communication and replace it with theirs.
Then don't do that to me please.
So it's not a question of clarity in what you tell me but a question of what I can know about what you tell me.
See? Like that. I say something clear, but
he knows there is *somethinng*else* being said.
But there is much about what you tell me that I cannot know! That's a fact. And what I formatted in bold is your misrepresenting what I said. Never did I say or imply that I know something else is being said. I said the very opposite.
And remember: To fail to believe what we are told on this board constitutes an accusation of the poster lying which is an insult and a TOS violation. You must then believe all that I tell you.
Oh, I think you misunderesgtand the rule. Let me help. The rule says you cannot accuse another member of lying. Of being deliberate in deceit. The reason for this rule is that one CANNOT KNOW if someone is lying, so it is an unnecessary insult.
I recall one poster saying that he had lied to me. Will I get into trouble by accepting as true his saying that he lied to me? Or will I be in violation of that rule if I don't believe that he had lied to me originally making his confession out to be a lie?
It's a really bad rule that should be rescinded because it's unjust and encourages lying. As I see it, it makes much more sense to punish liars rather than those they deceive. To lie to somebody is the real insult.
ON the contrary, however, one may be sure that what the person is saying is not the truth, but one cannot accuse them of deliberately lying. The person could be misinformed, deluded, out of date, biased, forgetful, coerced, or, indeed, lying. There is no rule that says you have to believe them. Only that you cannot insult them by calling them a liar. It’s better to assume they are misunformed, “never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by stupidity,” as the kids say.
But you just got done accusing me of lying about you!
So no, I do not have to believe all you tell me. Nor do you ”have to” believe what I tell you.
Although it does make one a bit of a dick, doesn’t it, if they ask you about your feelings and then tell you you’re wrong?
Oh, that's nice Rhea. You just got done preaching about how bad it is to insult people only to insult me. And you followed it up by accusing me of something I never did.
I can understand why there's a rule here against accusing people of lying.
Let me explain my actual position on this issue that I've documented in several posts on this thread. I do not believe there is a "God of atheism" that closely resembles the God(s) of religion, nor do I think that most avowed atheists are lying about not believing in a God. What does seem plausible to me is that many atheists may not be completely, consciously aware of what they believe. Some of their "subconscious belief" may well involve theism. Their denying that theism results not from lying necessarily but from being mistaken about themselves. I backed up this position of mine by linking to articles documenting that there is indeed some scientific evidence to support it.
