January 6 Hearings Live

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[lpetrich]

An Air Force Combat Veteran Breached the Senate and Descended on Nancy Pelosi’s Office Suite | The New Yorker
Then
southpaw on Twitter: "“In an interview, Brock confirmed that he was the man in the photos and videos.” https://t.co/G5lXyijFnV" / Twitter

John Scott-Railton on Twitter: "BREAKING: He's being named by others now, so I can confirm results of the investigation: Eric Munchel from Nashville TN is #ZipTieGuy

His social media has now been locked down, but many of his posts are disturbing and include glorified violence. https://t.co/xachNOyPLf" / Twitter

John Scott-Railton on Twitter: "Lt.Col Brock's personal transformation from distinguished vet to political extremism and now disgraceful misconduct is essential reading.

I came away disturbed by what I saw, but impressed by @RonanFarrow's reportorial care as we investigated this man. (link to article screenshots)" / Twitter


Kristin Mink #ImpeachAndRemoveNOW on Twitter: "NEW:

The rioters had a truck full of homemade bombs and guns (parked two blocks from the Capitol for HOURS)

A guy with an assault rifle and hundreds of rounds of ammunition said he aimed to kill Speaker Pelosi

Trump needs to be removed NOW. https://t.co/QiIM9Out6X" / Twitter
noting
Feds say police found a pickup truck full of bombs and guns near Capitol insurrection as wide-ranging investigation unfurls - CNNPolitics

An Alabama man allegedly parked a pickup truck packed with 11 homemade bombs, an assault rifle and a handgun two blocks from the US Capitol building on Wednesday for hours before authorities ever noticed, according to federal prosecutors.

Another man allegedly showed up in the nation's capital with an assault rifle and hundreds of rounds of ammunition and told acquaintances that he wanted to shoot or run over House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, prosecutors said.

The revelations are some of the most unsettling details federal prosecutors have made public this week as they detail the extent of the arsenal available to aid pro-Trump rioters who stormed the Capitol. Other individuals have been accused of taking guns and ammunition onto Capitol grounds and more charges are expected to come as a wide-ranging investigation unfurls.

On the Molotov cocktails,

Coffman, 70, told police he had mason jars filled with "melted Styrofoam and gasoline." Federal investigators believe that combination, if exploded, would have the effect of napalm "insofar as it causes the flammable liquid to better stick to objects that it hits upon detonation," according to the court record.

Police also found cloth rags and lighters. The court documents said that those items and the explosive-filled mason jars "in close proximity to one another constitute a combination of parts" that could be used as a "destructive device."

 

[Keith&Co.]

no trial could effectively be convened before Jan. 20, after Mr. Trump leaves office and Mr. Biden is sworn in, unless all 100 senators agreed to allow it sooner.

Okay.

I know we all laughed 4 years ago when the Tea Party threatened to impeach Obama, well after he left office, but Schumer says it's not Constitutionally prohibited. So, he retires, spends a week campaigning for '24, THEN Congress takes away his pension, his travel allowance, his ability to run for office, and prohibits anyone ever naming a government building, base, or warship after him.

I believe the law actually requires a Presidential library, but this is Trump. His library will be about the size of the non-denominational chapel at O'Hare. And that's including the gift shop and the restroom.

 

[Politesse]

Impeachment also cancels the presidential pension which is quite generous.

Honestly I care far less about than cancelling the Trump Presidential Library.
Talk about a grifters paradise.
Tom

Are you kidding? That library will be one of the most fascinating repositories of information on governmental disfunction ever to be created. They'll need a whole roller vault dedicated just to the blank pieces of paper the president signed with a sharpie marker during photo shoots.

 

[blastula]

Impeachment also cancels the presidential pension which is quite generous.

Honestly I care far less about than cancelling the Trump Presidential Library.
Talk about a grifters paradise.
Tom

I like those libraries, even Nixon's. I don't think the presidents get any money out of it, just whoever works there gets compensated.

 

[TomC]

Seen elsewhere: Trump is going to be impeached more times than he's won elections.

That's already true. Trump's never won a real election.

Getting installed by EC appointees isn't the same in a democracy.
Tom

 

[blastula]

no trial could effectively be convened before Jan. 20, after Mr. Trump leaves office and Mr. Biden is sworn in, unless all 100 senators agreed to allow it sooner.

Okay.

I know we all laughed 4 years ago when the Tea Party threatened to impeach Obama, well after he left office, but Schumer says it's not Constitutionally prohibited. So, he retires, spends a week campaigning for '24, THEN Congress takes away his pension, his travel allowance, his ability to run for office, and prohibits anyone ever naming a government building, base, or warship after him.

I believe the law actually requires a Presidential library, but this is Trump. His library will be about the size of the non-denominational chapel at O'Hare. And that's including the gift shop and the restroom.

Not sure if the impeachment cancels his pension if it's after his term expires because the law says it's cancelled when a president is removed from office.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Impeachment also cancels the presidential pension which is quite generous.

Honestly I care far less about than cancelling the Trump Presidential Library.
Talk about a grifters paradise.
Tom

Are you kidding? That library will be one of the most fascinating repositories of information on governmental disfunction ever to be created.

Two big screen TVs. On the left "He once tweeted...(claim)" and on the right, "But three years previous he tweeted...(the opposite)"

 

[TomC]

Impeachment also cancels the presidential pension which is quite generous.

Honestly I care far less about than cancelling the Trump Presidential Library.
Talk about a grifters paradise.
Tom

I like those libraries, even Nixon's. I don't think the presidents get any money out of it, just whoever works there gets compensated.

I think you're underestimating Trump's talent for grifting.
Tom

 

[lpetrich]

Phillipa Charlotte on Twitter: "Just listened to Maxine Waters as she described what happened. They were in her office, doors locked.

The Capitol cops wanted to escort them to another building. She had to say she didn't TRUST THE CAPITOL COPS. She and her people refused to go with them." / Twitter

Mike Baker on Twitter: "2 police officers in Seattle are under investigation for reportedly being in D.C. during the Capitol attack.

"If any SPD officers were directly involved in the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, I will immediately terminate them," the police chief says. (image link)" / Twitter


Shahid Buttar for Congress on Twitter: "2020: a mob promoting a white supremacist president assaults & ransacks the Capitol, steals computers, and walks out with impunity.

2015: an immigrant lawyer asks a question as an independent journalist after a Senate hearing, and walks out in handcuffs. (link to YouTube viddeo)" / Twitter


Hunter Walker on Twitter: "The groups I saw participating yesterday were; Oathkeepers, Three Percenters, at least one skinhead, Falun Gong, neo Confederates, various people waving the Gadsden flag, Proud Boys, evangelical Christians, and mostly just Trump supporters" / Twitter
All right-wingers, no Antifa in sight.

Hunter Walker on Twitter: "I also saw people waving South Vietnamese flags and anti-CCP signs. They have been told constantky by right wing media and politicians that there is nothing distinguishing centrist Democrats and Communists." / Twitter

 

[blastula]

I like those libraries, even Nixon's. I don't think the presidents get any money out of it, just whoever works there gets compensated.

I think you're underestimating Trump's talent for grifting.
Tom

Yeah probably.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Not sure if the impeachment cancels his pension if it's after his term expires

It does if they wrote it up that way. If the Senate votes to approve the article that includes "no goddamned pension" it certainly does.

 

[lpetrich]

A.R. Moxon on Twitter: "
2016: FUCK YOUR FEELINGS
2017: YOU LOST GET OVER IT
2018: DRINKING UR LIBERAL TEARS
2019: FOUR MORE YEARS BITCHES
2020: WATER THE TREE OF LIBERTY
Jan 6 2021: OVERTURN THIS ELECTION
Jan 7 2021: this is a time for unity and healing not finger-pointing" / Twitter

Responding to
Ted Cruz on Twitter: "Really sad. At a time of deep national division, President-elect Biden’s choice to call his political opponents literal Nazis does nothing to bring us together or promote healing.

This kind of vicious partisan rhetoric only tears our country apart." / Twitter
Responding to Biden talking about the "Big Lie" of massive election fraud.


Malcolm Nance on Twitter: "WARNING Followup: Specific targets being discussed by RWEs are HQ offices of @amazon, @Facebook, @Microsoft, @cnn, @MSNBC, @washingtonpost @nytimes, @Google facilities & staff. Assess plans as aspirational but quickly radicalizing armed supporters. #IncreaseYourSecurity" / Twitter
Even though these people claim that they love capitalism.

 

[Elixir]

Twitter warned that it has seen discussion of 'secondary attack' on the US Capitol on January 17

This and the 20th will be their last gasp, then the new administration will be in control. I don't expect them to be so sympathetic to Nazis.
In a rational world these people would be warned in no uncertain terms that lethal force will immediately be brought to bear on any and all participating individuals involved in violent acts of any sort.

I don't expect any such warning to be issued as long as Mango Mussolini remains in office, but after the 20th, I DO expect Merrick Garland to take a hard hand to these thugs.
I also expect thousands of well trained agents to be deployed to infiltrate and take down right wing terrorist groups by any means necessary before they can take violent action.

Estimates are that there may be as many as 15 million willingly violent MAGATs in the US, not counting foreign provocateurs. It would be a shame to have to incarcerate (we might have let non-violent drug offenders out) or kill them all, but even that would beat the alternative of letting them destroy the Country.

 

[lpetrich]

Naveed Jamali on Twitter: "Jesus. I’ve had sources from local police departments across the country call and tell me that members of their force attended riots. @Newsweek will work to confirm." / Twitter


AJC EXCLUSIVE: Georgia attorney among those who broke into U.S. Capitol

Calhoun, a practicing attorney in Americus for 30 years, admitted his participation in the riot in an exclusive interview with the AJC in which he described the mob as patriotic and heroic.

“This was civil disobedience. Anyone who claims it was anything other than civil disobedience was not there, and they did not see it and they do not know,” he said, referring to the riot that left five dead, including a Capitol Police officer and a Kennesaw woman who was reportedly crushed to death in the crowd.

The End of the Line. The edifice of Trumpism has collapsed… | by Cathy Young | Jan, 2021 | Arc Digital - "The edifice of Trumpism has collapsed. It was rotten from the very beginning."

Now, even some Trump apologists and anti-anti-Trumpers (the “yeah, he’s bad, but Democrats/the media/the woke social justice warriors are the real problem” crowd) are running from Trump. The Washington Post’s resident pro-Trump conservative, Mark Thiessen, wrote yesterday that Trump “betrayed his office” and “has blood on his hands.” Spectator USA columnist Stephen L. Miller, who wrote less than three months ago that “Trump could walk out of the White House on January 20 a conquering hero” thanks to his Supreme Court appointments — and who spent a lot of time last year whatabouting Trump’s COVID-19 debacle by blaming the media — published a column Wednesday night demanding Trump’s immediate removal from office.

Calls for Trump’s impeachment and removal are also mounting in Congress; the usually sympathetic Wall Street Journal has urged him to resign, and some Trump-friendly Fox News personalities are jumping ship. Other fleeing Trump loyalists include two cabinet members and several top advisors. While the grass-roots “base” still seems loyal, it remains to be seen whether that will hold.

 

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[GenesisNemesis]

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Arrested.

 

[blastula]

Morgan Fairchild on Twitter: "Six Republican lawmakers among rioters as police release photos of wanted (link) via @YahooNews" / Twitter
noting
Six Republican lawmakers among rioters as police release photos of wanted
State legislators.

Like VA State Sen Virginia Chase:

“These were not rioters and looters; these were Patriots who love their country and do not want to see our great republic turn into a socialist country. I was there with the people; I know. Don’t believe the fake media narrative," she wrote.

If they didn't have to be in that session, I am sure several Republican congressmen would have been storming the Capitol too.

We have the answer to the question whether he would lose support if he shot someone on fifth avenue. The way Congress members are down playing what happened, rejecting removing him from office, after even a police officer got killed says everything.

And, Morgan Fairchild? Niiice.

 

[Angry Floof]

Qanon the Barbarian and the Podium Whisperer have been charged. Charges include entering restricted federal property, theft of government property, and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds.

Now find that fucker with the zip ties!

US Capitol rioters: Alleged Trump supporters charged include man seen with Pelosi's lectern, horned QAnon promoter, WV lawmaker

 

[ZiprHead]

Now find that fucker with the zip ties!

As I understand, his identity is known. He may already be in custody and it just hasn't been announced yet.