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It was disappointing that Kansas couldn’t make it a closer game. Mahomes did a lot of running around but just couldn’t find an opening in that really good Tampa defense. But what an achievement for Tom Brady.

Buc's D-line were the main cause of the Buc's win, but the terrible one-sided reffing in the first half contributed to it being a boring blowout. And wasn't just that they called a tight game, b/c they failed to call clear defensive PI by the Bucs in the endzone. I know complaints about the refs are always made, but the fact is that it basically doubled the points spread. Even Romo and multiple half time analysts commented on it.

Yeah, there was a bit of that going on.
 

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Fuckin' Brady! Boooooooooooooo!!! Hissssssss! Boooooooooooooo!

I swear, if he decides to try and take the hapless Jets to the Silly Bowl for the second time in 50 plus years, I shall still want him to lose. I would want the Brady-Jets to go 0 - 16.

Booooooooooh! Retire already, thou silly excelsior! From hell's heart, I stay at thee!!!!!!!!!!!!12!!!!!! (Holy crap what was that?)
 

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Several good games so far, especially the prime time ones. But most importantly, the Rams are undefeated after 3 weeks and if they continue this trend, they will win the Super Bowl playing at home going for a perfect season. They just dispatched the reigning champs quite handily. Stafford is clearly an upgrade from Goff. The team is much improved overall, except for their defense which is not yet up to last year's standard.

Their opponent in the SB could also be playing at home, sort of. The Chargers just beat the SB runner up, outplaying the Chiefs in the final minutes. They did try to give the game away with some badly timed penalties, but KC made even worse mistakes. Chargers have for years had issues closing out games that looked like imminent victories. In week 1 against Washington they seemed to vanquish those demons by coming from behind in the last quarter and uncharacteristically holding the lead with a 7 minute drive to end the game. Alas, the next week, it was back to the old Chargers, losing on the last play at "home." Scare quotes because it has never really been home for them in LA. Nobody was really asking for them to go there, and SD fans feel betrayed that they moved to the hated LA rival sports town, so they haven't been eager to make the 3 hour drive. It's been a raw deal for the players, who have had to deal with hostile games at home. Their Dallas game may have had more Cowboys fans, and next week's MNF game likely will be in front of a stadium attendance of 80% or more Raiders fans. Too bad, that KC game was a historically huge win for them, they have a team on the rise, with a promising young coach they sniped from the Rams.

Goff has sadly not exceeded expectations for the Lions, still has the fumbleitis, still in search of a deep passing game, but I'll give him this, that he did get robbed out of a victory last week against the Ravens.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/WorldofIsaac/status/1442221194208555016[/TWEET]

Credit to Tucker for the subsequent 66 yard field goal kick bouncing in off the cross bar to beat them, but so oof for Detroit.
 

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Since the thread has been bumped -

Will someone do the @WAB mention thingy (must add a semi-colon after the name, in case someone isn't aware - I wasn't and tried it many times the wrong way before someone told me how to do it) IF the hapless Jets happen to win a game?

I just checked the standings, and I see they are 0 - 3. No surprise. I would be shocked to see anything different.

I predict (dons prophet hat) that the team will either disappear or transmute into a different team of some kind, or perhaps be taken up in another geographical area, like the Raiders in Vegas - who are winning! :angry:

I don't know if I have the heart to keep checking the standings. I am going to try and resist.

I wonder if Joe Namath is still supporting them avidly? I will check. I will support them in spirit, until for hate's sake I spit my last breath at them.

yay jets...ra ra ra... [...and the peasants rejoiced.]
 

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Several good games so far, especially the prime time ones. But most importantly, the Rams are undefeated after 3 weeks and if they continue this trend, they will win the Super Bowl playing at home going for a perfect season. They just dispatched the reigning champs quite handily. Stafford is clearly an upgrade from Goff. The team is much improved overall, except for their defense which is not yet up to last year's standard.

Their opponent in the SB could also be playing at home, sort of. The Chargers just beat the SB runner up, outplaying the Chiefs in the final minutes. They did try to give the game away with some badly timed penalties, but KC made even worse mistakes. Chargers have for years had issues closing out games that looked like imminent victories. In week 1 against Washington they seemed to vanquish those demons by coming from behind in the last quarter and uncharacteristically holding the lead with a 7 minute drive to end the game. Alas, the next week, it was back to the old Chargers, losing on the last play at "home." Scare quotes because it has never really been home for them in LA. Nobody was really asking for them to go there, and SD fans feel betrayed that they moved to the hated LA rival sports town, so they haven't been eager to make the 3 hour drive. It's been a raw deal for the players, who have had to deal with hostile games at home. Their Dallas game may have had more Cowboys fans, and next week's MNF game likely will be in front of a stadium attendance of 80% or more Raiders fans. Too bad, that KC game was a historically huge win for them, they have a team on the rise, with a promising young coach they sniped from the Rams.

Goff has sadly not exceeded expectations for the Lions, still has the fumbleitis, still in search of a deep passing game, but I'll give him this, that he did get robbed out of a victory last week against the Ravens.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/WorldofIsaac/status/1442221194208555016[/TWEET]

Credit to Tucker for the subsequent 66 yard field goal kick bouncing in off the cross bar to beat them, but so oof for Detroit.

If you’re referring to the TV play clock running out on the previous play, that’s not the official clock. No one on the field (officials, coaches, players) seemed to think the on-field clock had run out, and so far there’s no visual evidence or statement from the league, so it’s very possible that whoever manually syncs the TV clock did a poor job. If the official actually missed a delay of that length, the league has to say something.
 

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Interesting book for Kraft coming out. Says Brady/himself wanted to replace Belichick with someone else. Says Kraft thinks Belichick is an asshole. Brady wanted larger role in team, to play until 45.

It'll be interesting once the dust settles on what was going on in New England. Honestly, with 6 Super Bowls in 9 appearances, I have a hard time putting much grief at the feet of Belichick. The guy might be an asshole, but he is the best coach ever. Those first three Super Bowls rarely involved the "top team" of the AFC. And if you think about the lineup that beat the Rams... can't name anyone that was remotely HoF territory except Brady on offense. Personally, I'm more wondering about Josh McDaniels who gave up a head coaching spot (generally former Pat coordinators don't head coach too well) to stay in New England, and I haven't seen a reason that he has benefited from it.
 

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If you’re referring to the TV play clock running out on the previous play, that’s not the official clock. No one on the field (officials, coaches, players) seemed to think the on-field clock had run out, and so far there’s no visual evidence or statement from the league, so it’s very possible that whoever manually syncs the TV clock did a poor job. If the official actually missed a delay of that length, the league has to say something.

Maybe that's it, but the game announcers didn't seem to think that was the explanation. Dungy later that night on his NBC show talked about it as a bad call and also said the clocks are in sync.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/TonyDungy/status/1442457513027330048?s=20[/TWEET]

Maybe he's misinformed, but these rules experts said it was a definite delay.

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFbjsAYJqKY[/YOUTUBE]

There is the issue they talked about that the official making the call will be watching the clock to see it hit zero and then looks over to see if it's been snapped, which will take a split second. That would explain why I see it hit zero all the time for a definite beat without a call, though never for this long.

Anyway, a bit of trivia. The Lions were also the opponent in Dempsey's 63 yard game winner a half century ago.

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjqiq4S9bqA[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2X0-jmh21A[/YOUTUBE]
 

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I acknowledge that Dungy has an excellent grasp of the rules as they pertain to strategy and other details that a head coach should know. However, I stop short at calling him an expert. He probably doesn't fully know the following rule, which I believe is the key to the whole mystery:

ARTICLE 2. 25-SECOND PLAY CLOCK. In the event of certain administrative stoppages or other delays, a team will have 25
seconds, beginning with the Referee’s whistle, to put the ball in play next by a snap or a kick. Such stoppages include, but are
not limited to
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(a) a change of possession;
(b) a charged team timeout;
(c) the two-minute warning;
(d) the expiration of a period;
(e) a penalty enforcement;
(f) a Try; or
(g) a Free Kick.
A 25-second interval will be used in these situations, even if the 40-second clock is already counting down.

I've been trying to find out for two days why an official walked into the Ravens' huddle with 18 seconds on the play clock to talk to Lamar Jackson, and left at the 15-second mark, but in any event, interrupting a team's attempt to call the next play would certainly qualify as an "administrative stoppage", and should result in the play clock being reset to 25 seconds.

I will admit:

1) I don't know if the on-field play clock is synced to the TV play clock (the head official at the game also did not know, per his statements after the game, and I'm not taking Dungy's word for it)

2) I don't know if the on-field play clock was reset; I don't even know where they're located

3) I don't know why the NFL hasn't issued a statement about this event already, even if it's just to say "we effed up, sorry about that", which they do frequently.

But I do know that the official wasn't where he was supposed to be, and interfered with the process.


Anyway. If you're into trivia, here are a few more nuggets:

1) The score of the game where Dempsey kicked his FG was 19-17, the same score as the Ravens game.

2) Matt Prater, who had held the record at 64 yards, attempted a 68-yarder about 2 hours before Tucker's kick.

3) Prater's attempt came up short, and was fielded and returned for a 109-yard touchdown, which is ... a new NFL record, and one that will never be broken.

4) Tucker's previous career long was 61 yards, which won a game against, naturally, the Detroit Lions.
 

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I didn't say Dungy was an expert, but Blandino and Pereira are. Yes, the NFL should say something to clarify.

I did see the 109 yarder. That guy Agnew is good, had a 102 yard one the week before, has 7 career return TDs and is just in his 5th year.
 

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The Broncos are 3-0. But the three teams they have beaten don't have a single win between them.

Today they get the 2-1 Ravens so we shall see if they're anything like for real.
Teddy Bridgewater has been really surprising to me; he seems to be a great fit and a really good leader, making quick decisions and protecting the ball... and the defense is statistically the best in the league at this point. Von Miller looks to have returned to his old form.
I'm optimistic that they are the best Broncos team since Peyton Manning played for them, despite a lot of early injuries.
 

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The Broncos are 3-0. But the three teams they have beaten don't have a single win between them.

Today they get the 2-1 Ravens so we shall see if they're anything like for real.
Teddy Bridgewater has been really surprising to me; he seems to be a great fit and a really good leader, making quick decisions and protecting the ball... and the defense is statistically the best in the league at this point. Von Miller looks to have returned to his old form.
I'm optimistic that they are the best Broncos team since Peyton Manning played for them, despite a lot of early injuries.

Ravens have added a few more injured players to their league-leading total, this time more guys in the secondary. But the Broncos’ top two receivers are out, and the Ravens get their defensive line back from COVID quarantine. Should be interesting.

But maybe not as interesting as Brady vs. Belichick tonight. The soap opera continues.
 

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Belichick v Brady?

Always has to be a battle. The Patriots were in nine Super Bowls because of Brady and Belichick. Both are New England legends forever.
 

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For WAB - hey, your Jets won in overtime!

And, although I know it's still early, I have to ask
How 'Bout Them Cowboys??

Are they really that good?
 

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NFC North, three teams at 3-1... and Pittsburgh is 1-3.

Patriots defense of old tonight. Giving up yards and clock... but only giving up mostly field goals. Bucs are leading, but it is within reach.

Meanwhile, Buffalo 3-1, given up 44 points.
 

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NFC North, three teams at 3-1... and Pittsburgh is 1-3.

Patriots defense of old tonight. Giving up yards and clock... but only giving up mostly field goals. Bucs are leading, but it is within reach.

Meanwhile, Buffalo 3-1, given up 44 points.

AFC North.

Is it my imagination, or are a lot of the Patriots’ defensive players really small?
 

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NFC North, three teams at 3-1... and Pittsburgh is 1-3.

Patriots defense of old tonight. Giving up yards and clock... but only giving up mostly field goals. Bucs are leading, but it is within reach.

Meanwhile, Buffalo 3-1, given up 44 points.

AFC North.
NFC North. The NFL just resorted all the teams to help me save face.

Is it my imagination, or are a lot of the Patriots’ defensive players really small?
I noticed a few defensive players on both teams rushing that looked more like Safeties, but played like linebackers.

Pats game ended up quite entertaining. All I need really... that and beating the Jets. Field goal hit the posts, but the Pats benefited from a couple surplus bad calls on that drive, so it all balances.
 

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Good news for the Rams, they get to start a new winning streak next game. Bad news is, mfing Arizona and Murray are very good.
 

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Good news for the Rams, they get to start a new winning streak next game. Bad news is, mfing Arizona and Murray are very good.
Can someone explain how the Cardinals are so good? It just seemed to sneak up on me.
 

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Good news for the Rams, they get to start a new winning streak next game. Bad news is, mfing Arizona and Murray are very good.
Can someone explain how the Cardinals are so good? It just seemed to sneak up on me.

A mobile QB who throws well, and other offensive weapons got them started. This year, their defense has apparently improved.
 

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Man, after that awesome Patriots victory over the Texans, I'd say they are only $160 million more in off-season spending from competing with the Bills.

Detroit Lion fans already saying "Maybe next decade." Franchise hasn't won a playoff game in nearing 70 years!

Cleveland Browns looked awesome until the last two drives and they couldn't make anything happen. A complete failure in coaching in my estimation.

Jimmy Higgins Open Letter to the NFL

Dear NFL Franchises,

I just wanted to make an observation that almost any team's offense can do in 60 seconds as they can in two or so minutes. But what the opponent's offense can't do is score when you have the ball. So maybe... instead of trying to bleed 90 seconds off the clock, you try to, I don't know, keep possession of the ball.

Sincerely,

Jimmy Higgins
 

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Chargers of the past 10 year would have lost that game. They could be for real this year, but they are living on the edge relying on 4th down conversions. Herbert has been a perfect 8 for 8, but so many have been in risky spots where a miss would have been a disaster.
 

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Yesterday, my Vikings resorted to playing to avoid losing, they almost lost. Instead of actually trying to move the ball and get a game ending first down, they ran and fumbled. The Lions recovered. A couple of plays later they scored a TD. Instead of going for the game tying PAT, they went for 2 and made it. The Vikings were down a point with 37 seconds left. They got lucky and kicked a field goal to win.

The Bengals came from behind against the Packers to force the game into OT. They were driving with 2 minutes left in OT and had a first down. Instead of trying to get into better field position (or score a TD or even run out the clock a bit), they went for the field goal and missed. The Packers had 2 minutes to move down the field and score, which they did.

Playing it safe backfired in both games. One team got lucky, but the Vikes deserved to lose.
 

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Yesterday, my Vikings resorted to playing to avoid losing, they almost lost. Instead of actually trying to move the ball and get a game ending first down, they ran and fumbled. The Lions recovered. A couple of plays later they scored a TD. Instead of going for the game tying PAT, they went for 2 and made it. The Vikings were down a point with 37 seconds left. They got lucky and kicked a field goal to win.

The Bengals came from behind against the Packers to force the game into OT. They were driving with 2 minutes left in OT and had a first down. Instead of trying to get into better field position (or score a TD or even run out the clock a bit), they went for the field goal and missed. The Packers had 2 minutes to move down the field and score, which they did.

Playing it safe backfired in both games. One team got lucky, but the Vikes deserved to lose.

Ain't that how it is? The Broncos were conservative, a little unlucky and quite lackluster until they were down 6-24 to the Steelers in the 4th quarter. Then they suddenly started letting it hang out, converting 4th downs, making plays and came within two yards and a 2 point conversion of tying it up ... they failed, but looked like a whole other team when they were desperate.
 

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Yesterday, my Vikings resorted to playing to avoid losing, they almost lost. Instead of actually trying to move the ball and get a game ending first down, they ran and fumbled. The Lions recovered. A couple of plays later they scored a TD. Instead of going for the game tying PAT, they went for 2 and made it. The Vikings were down a point with 37 seconds left. They got lucky and kicked a field goal to win.

The Bengals came from behind against the Packers to force the game into OT. They were driving with 2 minutes left in OT and had a first down. Instead of trying to get into better field position (or score a TD or even run out the clock a bit), they went for the field goal and missed. The Packers had 2 minutes to move down the field and score, which they did.

Playing it safe backfired in both games. One team got lucky, but the Vikes deserved to lose.

Last 7 drives from Bengals-Packers:

1) Missed field goal
2) Missed field goal
3) Missed field goal
4) Interception
5) Missed field goal
6) Missed field goal
7) Field goal

Here is the official decision tree for coaches:

Is your kicker Justin Tucker?
.........|.................|
.......yes..............no
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...do kicks......never do kicks
 

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...but... but... but.... he didn't kneel. You shouldn't get fired unless you kneel.
 

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I turned off the Colts-Ravens game after the Colts took a 22-3 lead, following a disastrous Lamar Jackson fumble on the Colts' 1-yard-line. Lamar then proceeded to carve them up like a Thanksgiving turkey, with several milestones:

  • an NFL record for the highest completion percentage by any QB who had 40 or more passing attempts (there have been over 4,000 instances of a QB throwing 40 or more times)
  • the only QB in history with over 400 yards passing and a completion % above 85%
  • a Ravens record for passing yardage

He also ran for 50 yards. I was absolutely stunned when I saw the score this morning. The defense looked like a high school team, and the offense hadn't been much better, until they let Jackson take control. But some people will still call him a running back who throws. LOL.
 

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I turned off the Colts-Ravens game after the Colts took a 22-3 lead, following a disastrous Lamar Jackson fumble on the Colts' 1-yard-line. Lamar then proceeded to carve them up like a Thanksgiving turkey, with several milestones:

  • an NFL record for the highest completion percentage by any QB who had 40 or more passing attempts (there have been over 4,000 instances of a QB throwing 40 or more times)
  • the only QB in history with over 400 yards passing and a completion % above 85%
  • a Ravens record for passing yardage

He also ran for 50 yards. I was absolutely stunned when I saw the score this morning. The defense looked like a high school team, and the offense hadn't been much better, until they let Jackson take control. But some people will still call him a running back who throws. LOL.

There are lots of great young QBs in the game today. Love Herbert. Love watching the Chargers. Burrows is great also. Jackson, while different, is fun to watch.
 

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I hope the Bengals have improved their offensive line; they almost got Burrow killed last year. Herbert, Mahomes, Murray, Allen, and Jackson, all 26 or younger. Then there’s Dorian Gray in Tampa.
 

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I hope the Bengals have improved their offensive line; they almost got Burrow killed last year. Herbert, Mahomes, Murray, Allen, and Jackson, all 26 or younger. Then there’s Dorian Gray in Tampa.

Agreed. He's unbelievable. However, one of his secrets is that football is a team sport. And he's always been willing to take a team friendly salary. While never the highest paid, this has allowed Brady to have an extra great lineman; and an extra great defensive teammate or two. Superstars like Rodgers and Russel Wilson complain about not having as many supporting players around them; but they always insist on being the highest paid. It appears that Mahomes and Allen are open to restructuring their contracts to ease the salary cap and add players.
 

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I turned off the Colts-Ravens game after the Colts took a 22-3 lead, following a disastrous Lamar Jackson fumble on the Colts' 1-yard-line. Lamar then proceeded to carve them up like a Thanksgiving turkey, with several milestones:

  • an NFL record for the highest completion percentage by any QB who had 40 or more passing attempts (there have been over 4,000 instances of a QB throwing 40 or more times)
  • the only QB in history with over 400 yards passing and a completion % above 85%
  • a Ravens record for passing yardage

He also ran for 50 yards. I was absolutely stunned when I saw the score this morning. The defense looked like a high school team, and the offense hadn't been much better, until they let Jackson take control. But some people will still call him a running back who throws. LOL.

There are lots of great young QBs in the game today. Love Herbert. Love watching the Chargers. Burrows is great also. Jackson, while different, is fun to watch.

Yeah, NFL has a good future in quarterbacks. Usually only see 3 or 4 elite passers going at a time, but there could be a half of dozen soon.

Oh man, just saw that Chargers face Ravens this week. Both have been having wild finishes, could break the scoreboard in 4th. The Ravens are 2.5 point betting favorites, but maybe should be more since Chargers have been giving up a ton of yards rushing. Ravens have that problem with passing defense, so who knows.
 

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Ravens run game has been surprisingly weak, with three replacement running backs, three offensive linemen hurt, and Lamar clearly not 100% when running. And I have no idea what’s going on with the defense. But the passing game has taken a quantum leap, and their 1st round pick wide receiver will be playing his first game tomorrow. I really don’t know what to expect. I just know the Chargers are very good in all parts of the game.
 

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Chargers gave up another ton of yards rushing, but weren't much better against the pass. Herbert finally missed on fourth down and it did cost them, but not really a deciding factor, cuz he was missing on every other down too, uncharacteristically off target all game. And he barely even attempted any long throws. But missing an extra point was very characteristic of them for the season.

Ravens D looked like the one from 20 years ago. Jackson threw well even with 2 picks From the times I've watched him, a big factor against him is his receivers. Other than Andrews, nobody established you can depend on to pull down the ball. I think it's more on the receivers than him whether they can succeed.

Oh and thanks for nothing, Cleveland.
 

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Oh and thanks for nothing, Cleveland.

Browns have a decision to make in the off- season: whether to give Mayfield the big contract. He’s definitely not worth it, but he’s also the best QB the “new” Browns have had. I expect them to defer until 2023 and just pay his 5th-year contract $ for 2022.
 

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An image that me makes me laugh on several levels, but too arcane for that thread.

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Here’s the full list of the 31 Browns starting quarterbacks since they re-entered the NFL in 1999: Tim Couch, Ty Detmer, Doug Pederson, Spergon Wynn, Kelly Holcomb, Jeff Garcia, Luke McCown, Trent Dilfer, Charlie Frye, Derek Anderson, Ken Dorsey, Brady Quinn, Bruce Gradkowski, Colt McCoy, Jake Delhomme, Seneca Wallace, Brandon Weeden, Thaddeus Lewis, Jason Campbell, Brian Hoyer, Johnny Manziel, Connor Shaw, Josh McCown, Austin Davis, Robert Griffin III, Cody Kessler, DeShone Kizer, Kevin Hogan, Tyrod Taylor, Baker Mayfield, Case Keenum (as of tonight).
 

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An image that me makes me laugh on several levels, but too arcane for that thread.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/dkm14/status/1450158120966053892[/TWEET]

Now that's funny. Calling a Hall of Famer (one of only 8 tight ends) and 3-time Super Bowl champion a "washed up wanna be". And yeah, that was a boneheaded play.
 

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Last week was the first week of the season without any great or wild games. But we're back on track in week 8 with yesterday's GB-AZ game.

AZ had a perfect record on the line and GB had a 7 game winning streak coming in. Some big names were missing though. Hopkins hardly played, and GB's starting receivers were out. Both offenses struggled in the first half, with GB up by 3 at intermission. Things got going in the second half with both teams scoring on consecutive TD drives, with AZ cutting the lead to 3 again and kicking off with under 11 minutes to go in the game. GB goes on a 6 minute drive to get first and goal at the AZ one with about five minutes to play. On first down, Jones took the ball and was tackled right at the goal line with the refs signaling a touchdown. I thought YES, game over! Good for my Rams!

But upon review, Jones was called down short of a score. Jones runs it again for no gain. On 3rd down, GB had some confusion and couldn't get set in time and got a delay of game call, which they couldn't avoid as they had no time outs left. On the third down replay, Rogers tried to scramble and take it in himself putting his head down going for the line but is stopped just short. On 4th down, Rogers's pass is batted down incomplete. Bummer, but they still had the lead and AZ has go to 99 yards with 3:30 to go beat them.

Murray then proceeds to drive the team for 12 plays to the GB 5 with 15 ticks left. This is setting up to be a signature moment for Murray and AZ. And then this happened,



Douglas was on AZ's practice squad a few weeks ago.

Thank you, Rasul and GB!

*The final 10:45 of the game is also on youtube.
 
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I'm not usually big on talking about sports and I know this is college ball and not the NFL. But, damn, this was a helluva game.
 

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I'm not usually big on talking about sports and I know this is college ball and not the NFL. But, damn, this was a helluva game.
Agreed! That was a great game. As much as I liked it though, we were dying though waiting for it to end while the Oregon vs Colorado game was playing!
 

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Lads, it’s the Jets. :ROFLMAO:
I wouldn't worry about the Jets. I predict that they have a bright future. They have like 10,000 future draft picks! They traded a slightly better than average safety for two 1st round picks and a third pick from my clueless Seahawks.
 

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So Patriots get their first win over a team that doesn't suck this past weekend. Ignoring two huge runs, they effectively shutdown the Chargers offense. Mac Jones had a few great throws, but appeared to be a bit off on several other throws, but the running game worked on Sunday. Their kicker Folk is also proving to be extraordinarily reliable.

For most football fans, the scary thing is the Pats can still technically finish 12-4, and I know some people are starting to sweat that possibility as the Patriots continue gain cohesion. But the Patriot fans shouldn't hold their breath... for a while. The best 2-4 NFL team is now 4-4.

Meanwhile, Cleveland is learning about how being 4-4 is disappointing, is actually not so bad because it means there is hope. It also demonstrates what I was saying in the pre-season. The whole fait accompli that some fans have with the playoffs and their team being 'just right'. Browns lost to the Steelers, which is a bad sign as it was the first of six division games in a very tight AFC North. Their QB Isn't the best, but adequate enough to work with one of the best QB groups in the league. But their coaching, still in my mind, is their greatest weakness.
 

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NE always manages to field a solid defense regardless of what is going on with their other side.

The Jets are hardly the worst team right now, I would give Houston that honor. They blow at every facet of the game, except maybe kicking. The Jets get to play them later, and should get another win, they won't be in running for #1 pick this year.

The Rams won't have any picks of any kind soon, they keep gambling them away on the right now, having just traded for Von Miller. His health is questionable but if healthy is very welcome help for their porous defense, which just gave up 22 to the Texans, albeit mostly late using a lot of subs, but still, Houston hadn't scored a TD in 2 games, and only 4 in last 5 games.

I've seen Rams ranked high in some power rankings, but they have a very tough schedule coming up.

Tennessee
@ San Francisco
@ Green Bay
Jacksonville
@ Arizona
Seattle
@ Minnesota
@ Baltimore
San Francisco

It's the 3rd toughest according to ESPN. AZ at 11th, while GB, TB and Dallas are in the bottom half of that list.

KC has had a big dropoff from conference champs, barely beating the Giants, only with the help of penalties.
 

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Uh-oh, Packers QB Aaron Rodgers tests positive for Covid and will miss Sunday's game against the Chiefs. Hmm, I'm not too worried as the Chiefs are not at their best right now.
 

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Well, like clockwork, OBJ having issues with the Browns organization because the Browns aren't as good as he thinks he makes them, therefore it is their fault. If Mayfield could just throw the ball to him more often when he is double-covered, they'd win more games.

Time for Tampa to sign OBJ.
 
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