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What’s truly surreal is that the right spent all of Obama’s administration making up lies about how incompetent it was in order to pre-emptively compensate for the clusterfuck they knew would be coming next from their own ranks; as if they knew that the next right wing POTUS—whoever it may be—would actually be more incompetent than the lies they made up to disparage Obama.

Iow, one of the main reasons why the right do not seem to be all that upset about the Trump administration’s constant barrage of actual gross incompetence/outright stupidity is because their echo chamber from 2008 onward has been nothing but lies meant to disparage actual competence/intelligence, to the point where they now believe it is the left that are the liars and “fake news” etc.

It’s insidious for many reasons, primary of which is that those conducting it know exactly what the truth is and how they are openly manipulating their own—showing profound disdain in the offing—and the people responsible should all be facing firing squads on national TV.

Both the Republicans and Democrats are utterly corrupt and incompetent.
Obama looked foolish with the red line in the sand remark with Syria. 1 million Iraqis were displaced, over 100,000 killed, and over 10,000 killed or maimed US soldiers in Iraq.

Trump just takes it to a more open, visible and comical level.
There is nothing funny about it. He has burned almost all of our diplomatic capital and clearly is using the office to make money.
You need to break the 2 party system. Vote 3rd party.
3rd party isn't the solution. As long as politicians are involved there will be problems. That is politics. The issue right now is the GOP has lost its mind. The Democrats are just beholden to corporate interests, but toss the people a bone here and there. The GOP... oi!
 
There is nothing funny about it.

You Americans actually elected this guy. That's both tragic and hilarious.

3rd party isn't the solution.

Its a big part of the solution, as is getting money out of politics.

The issue right now is the GOP has lost its mind. The Democrats are just beholden to corporate interests, but toss the people a bone here and there. The GOP... oi!

You are not going to get anywhere if you just point at the GOP (rightly so) without fixing the Democrats.

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I don't understand the bluebird inside the crown thing.

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You Americans actually elected this guy.

No, we actually didn’t. Our outdated system—that was literally designed to prevent “this guy”—elected him.

That's both tragic and hilarious.

Even more so in light of the correction above, but not hilarious in a “ha, ha” way.

Its a big part of the solution, as is getting money out of politics.

If money mattered in the way everyone keeps regurgitating, then Sanders would have been POTUS. He raised more money than HRC in the primaries and by the time he finally burried his zombie civil war, he was only about $100m shy of what Trump’s campaing individually raised in total (primaries to general, not counting partisan fundraisers and PACs).

Iow, candidate to candidate, Sanders’ individual efforts in just his primary bid raised more than Clinton in hers, almost as much as Trump in his combined primary and general efforts and arguably would have ended up spending more than Trump (as Clinton did).

For Clinton, it worked and it didn’t. She won, but was not given the Presidency. Regardless, Sanders outspent Clinton and Clinton outspent Trump, but Trump is in the Oval.

So, no, 2016 proved conclusively that money isn’t the issue everyone keeps insisting it is, otherwise we would have a very different outcome.

The issue right now is the GOP has lost its mind. The Democrats are just beholden to corporate interests, but toss the people a bone here and there. The GOP... oi!

You are not going to get anywhere if you just point at the GOP (rightly so) without fixing the Democrats.

This is yet another canard, borne by the GOP and fostered by the Sanders campaign. “Corporate interests” is a catch-all boogeyman phrase that’s meaningless whenever specifics are involved, which, of course, is the intent. A perfect example would be the bank bail out (which was actually started by Bush, but supported by Obama) aka, “too big to fail” or calling Clinton a “friend to Wall Street.”

Basically, like the word “liberal,” GOP spin doctors have fostered and convinced the more radical left that anything that even mentions the word “Corporate” is automatically evil, as if any modern global power could somehow just magically do away with corporate structures and we all live in yurts. But because it is such a complicated, ingrained economic model—full of corruption and inherent sociopathic tendencies—that therefore requires constant oversight and intelligent regulation, it’s just always low hanging fruit to point to a Democrat that, for whatever reason, supports helping either a specific corporation or the industry in general and paint them as equivalently evil to any Republican doing a similar thing.

And, of course, it doesn’t help any when particular Democrats have indeed done horrible, corrupt things, but somehow it’s made even worse becuase of the double standard. Republicans are just accepted—by both sides—to be inherently evil and corrupt. Republican voters count on that fact, because they are essentially inherently evil and corrupt (which is to say self-serving, and thus don’t give a shit about morality or any of the things they pretend to care so very deeply about as a smokescreen for their evil and corruption).

Dems, otoh, are supposed to be the “good guys,” so when one of ours screws the pooch, we never hear the end of it. Thus the days of equivocation upon us now, where a 5-10% error/corruption rate on the Democratic side is made equivalant to a 90-95% error/corruption rate on the Republican side.

The only difference to these more-or-less normal rates, however, is that now we have “social” media, where any idiot with a keyboard is given equal voice to someone who actually knows what they’re talking about. The sound bite—the worst of the worst of the worst of all human forms of communication—has become the full extent of the conversation.

In short (ironically), tl;dr killed us and gave us Donald Trump.[/derail]
 
She won, but was not given the Presidency. Regardless, Sanders outspent Clinton and Clinton outspent Trump, but Trump is in the Oval.

So, no, 2016 proved conclusively that money isn’t the issue everyone keeps insisting it is...

You just might be ignoring a whole lot of "dark" money (aka Rubles, un-declared contributions etc.) that was spent to destroy HRC and elect Cheato.
 
You Americans actually elected this guy. That's both tragic and hilarious.
The electoral college elected him.

Its a big part of the solution, as is getting money out of politics.
Well, right now bribery is free speech in American thanks to SCOTUS. The dual party problem isn't nearly as big as the money... and the money is a big problem because of the ridiculous General Election primary schedule! If we could contract that damn thing into September of the election year, we'd be doing ourselves a massive favor!

The issue right now is the GOP has lost its mind. The Democrats are just beholden to corporate interests, but toss the people a bone here and there. The GOP... oi!
You are not going to get anywhere if you just point at the GOP (rightly so) without fixing the Democrats.
Much like you aren't if you don't read what I actually typed. I underlined it for you this time.
 
She won, but was not given the Presidency. Regardless, Sanders outspent Clinton and Clinton outspent Trump, but Trump is in the Oval.

So, no, 2016 proved conclusively that money isn’t the issue everyone keeps insisting it is...

You just might be ignoring a whole lot of "dark" money (aka Rubles, un-declared contributions etc.) that was spent to destroy HRC and elect Cheato.

Possibly, but what was far more damaging wasn’t the money spent; it was the reaction to what the candidates said (and didn’t say). Hillary was painted by both sides as an “establishment” “corporate whore” fully equivalent to if not surpassing Trump in her evil.

When you have your own people spreading the exact same false arguments as the other side—for months including up to this very day, no less—that is a far more powerful weapon. And the presidency came down to a tiny sliver of a fraction of votes in just three key traditionally Democratic states.

Regardless and again, Sanders outspent Clinton and he lost massively, having not been able to motivate more than about 5% of Democrats to give a shit about his fraud of a campaign and that was with significant Republican and Russian assistance (including monetarily). That is one of the lasting ironies of the Sanders fraud; that one of his main arguments against Clinton and supposedly in his favor was that she had all the money and was the big bad “establishment” friend to Wall Street and an aw-shucks little curmudgeon from the old school had no chance of winning, so give him money. And they did, in amounts surpassing Hillary’s efforts, yet...it did no good.

It was the same lie of an argument Trump used, only on his end it was “I’m so rich, I don’t need anyone’s money so no one has a hold over me like the ‘establishment’ politicians!” Exact same strategy enacted from two different angles outflanking the center stronghold.

Gee, it’s almost like an intelligence strategist put such things in motion and/or bolstered it along as it unfolded for precisely that effect and for some still unknown reason one of those flanks that should have removed himself from the fight way back in March when it was unmistakeable clearly he could not possibly win, stayed in and continued to escalate the flanking attack all the way to the bitterly divisive end in spite of the fact that it was later revealed he knew all along that the Russians were using his attacks for their own and vice versa.

Regardless, if money is the great big evil then how is it he lost and Clinton lost to Trump? All told, Clinton and the party contributions/fundraisers and the PACs raised over a billion for her bid and she spent—at one point—107% of it (trusting more would flow in). Conversely, Trump only raised a total of $956 M. He lost the vote, but due to a ridiculous flaw in our system—where 1 vote on one plot of land somehow equals 1,000 votes on another plot of land across the way from it—he’s POTUS.

So, again, it’s not the money that matters. It certainly helps, of course, but it’s all proportional. If you limited everyone’s spending/fundraising to say $100 M each, then it would STILL come down to who lied more effectively about their oponent than the other, evidently. Frankly, I’m surprised that the money people don’t already understand this. Unless you’re a Republican, money doesn’t buy you anything on the Democratic side. “Access” as Obama proved with Goldman Sachs doesn’t buy you shit with most—most—Democrats.

Again, 5-10% error/corruption rate on the left is being equivocated with a 90-95% error/corruption rate on the right. This is being done by members of both parties, as has always been the case. There have always been those on the extreme end fringes of the political spectrum (line, really) in America, it’s just that with the new “social” media, only the loudest, most radical assholes who were traditionally and rightly shunned by the press get center stage. So they all shout, “Everyone’s the same and everyone’s corrupt so why bother” and this is, of course a boon to only the GOP, because it argues for no one to vote.

And due to a reverse DK effect—where people on the radical left are actually too intelligent to accept the fact that they’re actually arguing insipid nonsense—this has an even greater impact today than it did in the days where journalists could be counted on to step back and judge the sophistry for what it was. Now it just all spews out like bile at a fraternity hazing.

ETA: I missed one small detail in that WaPo piece, which is that Trump personally only raised $269 M (the other amount attributed to him personally was supposedly his own $50 M), which means Sanders personally raised almost as much ($234.4 M).

Yes, again, that’s not counting other sources, but it still shows the argument about money in politics—whichever one you want to boot up—is not supported by the facts, either in 2016 or in regard to, at least, Obama’s administration (re: Wall Street money).
 
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The key factor might have been the Winter Olympics this year. Combine the fact that Kim Jong Un is actually a big sports fan, and the fact that all the North Korean Athletes performed so poorly at an Olympics run exquisitely by the South Koreans just 50 miles away from the DMZ, and you might have a cocktail strong enough to inspire a despot to change political tactics.

I think Kim Jong-un might realize that the traditional North Korean path with the resulting consequences of economic stagnation, sanctions, under-development, and isolation is not really a sustainable path forward for the country.

From what I know, the North Korean elite wants the country to emulate the Chinese model of keeping the party in power, and retaining a totalitarian form of government, but also wanting to gain on the benefits that being open to the wider world can give. Kim Jong-un might be of the same mind.

Kim Jong-il was old and stuck in his old way. Kim Jong-un is young, and having lived in Switzerland, he surely knows that it is possible for a country to do way better than North Korea does.

Probably Kim's goal is to make North Korea an accepted country within the international community, rather than the pariah that it currently is. If North Korea went that path, it would also be very beneficial for the rest of the world.
 
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Except Charlie Brown should be Moon Jae-in this time.


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I'll order that from the Liberian Mint.

Get this authentic coin representing the historic US-NK summit. It is a gold plated coin consisting of 99.9999% pure lead that is analogous to this historic moment.
 
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