Shadowy Man
Contributor
And since sentencing has not occurred yet we don’t know the actual sentence.
I do not believe that prison acts as a deterrent, or only very rarely does it.Prison serves two purposes. It not only deters future improper behavior by the guilty but it acts as a deterrent for others who might do the same thing.
Personally I hate prison time as a means to serving justice. It would seem unlikely that these two people will commit the same crime again. Their presence in prison won't make us any safer.
On the other hand, four teens were murdered by the teen they gave a weapon to after being told he appeared to be exhibiting violent tendencies as well as them apparently witnessing this as well. Is 15 years excessive? Let's ask these four people.
In this case I definitely agree that the parents aren't going to do it again, but this sentence tells others to be careful arming people with mental problems.
In cases of mental illness I agree that imprisonment does not act as a deterrent. But mental illness like everything else comes in degrees and I believe the threat of loss of freedom or being fined definitely can give a person pause. The key is to make the person unhappy with their current circumstance while continuing intervention.I do not believe that prison acts as a deterrent, or only very rarely does it.
I have no idea how this child's mental health needs were addressed through the years. What I can say is that people have committed mass shootings without mental health issues, and instead were simply angry. The problem are guns and how easy it is to get them, especially in this case where the child was allowed to gain access to the weapon because the parents were abhorrently negligent.I do not believe that prison acts as a deterrent, or only very rarely does it.Prison serves two purposes. It not only deters future improper behavior by the guilty but it acts as a deterrent for others who might do the same thing.
Personally I hate prison time as a means to serving justice. It would seem unlikely that these two people will commit the same crime again. Their presence in prison won't make us any safer.
On the other hand, four teens were murdered by the teen they gave a weapon to after being told he appeared to be exhibiting violent tendencies as well as them apparently witnessing this as well. Is 15 years excessive? Let's ask these four people.
In this case I definitely agree that the parents aren't going to do it again, but this sentence tells others to be careful arming people with mental problems.
I don’t believe anyone should have a weapon capable of rapidly firing many times —or even a few. Certainly not a 15 year old, however mentally, emotionally and physically healthy that 15 year old is or appears to be, no matter how excellent and observe t or even prescient the parents and schools and teachers and communities. Shit happens. Sometimes really bad shit. Often guns are involved.
What ALL of this should be telling ALL of us is that we have a very serious problem with mental health and that it starts very young and that too few people have access to the help they need and that this is especially true for teenagers.
Guns and people don't mix well.Also guns and mental illness do not mix well,
if the kid had ran away from home, stolen a gun somewhere then committed the crimes I might agree with you. As it is the parents acted as enablers, something more than negligence.Honestly, it kinda seems so excessive
I agree with all that. It's not like I suggested a shrug concerning their culpability. Still, 15 years looks excessive to me.
Tom
I suspect something like schizophrenia for this person, given the reports of hallucinations.I have no idea how this child's mental health needs were addressed through the years. What I can say is that people have committed mass shootings without mental health issues, and instead were simply angry. The problem are guns and how easy it is to get them, especially in this case where the child was allowed to gain access to the weapon because the parents were abhorrently negligent.I do not believe that prison acts as a deterrent, or only very rarely does it.Prison serves two purposes. It not only deters future improper behavior by the guilty but it acts as a deterrent for others who might do the same thing.
Personally I hate prison time as a means to serving justice. It would seem unlikely that these two people will commit the same crime again. Their presence in prison won't make us any safer.
On the other hand, four teens were murdered by the teen they gave a weapon to after being told he appeared to be exhibiting violent tendencies as well as them apparently witnessing this as well. Is 15 years excessive? Let's ask these four people.
In this case I definitely agree that the parents aren't going to do it again, but this sentence tells others to be careful arming people with mental problems.
I don’t believe anyone should have a weapon capable of rapidly firing many times —or even a few. Certainly not a 15 year old, however mentally, emotionally and physically healthy that 15 year old is or appears to be, no matter how excellent and observe t or even prescient the parents and schools and teachers and communities. Shit happens. Sometimes really bad shit. Often guns are involved.
What ALL of this should be telling ALL of us is that we have a very serious problem with mental health and that it starts very young and that too few people have access to the help they need and that this is especially true for teenagers.
Guns and people don't mix well.Also guns and mental illness do not mix well,
Mental illness is an incredibly important issue, I just get tired of it being used as a cloak by some to protect the reckless access to weaponry that has allowed people to gain access to guns so easily, facilitating their mass murders. I get you feel likewise.
That's the math for 60 years.
I'm confused.
Are you saying she deserves more than 15 years?
I can't tell what the point to your post was.
Tom