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Pelosi: Impeachment Is Moving Forward

Republicans Stormed Into The Impeachment Investigation's Secure Room On Capitol Hill
Notably, according to a list provided by Gaetz's office of the Republicans who RSVP'd to join the protest, 12 of them are members of the Oversight or Foreign Affairs committees — including Rep. Jim Jordan, the ranking member on the Oversight Committee — meaning they have been allowed to sit in on all depositions held in the SCIF in recent weeks. A spokesperson for Rep. Ken Buck, who is on the list and serves on the Foreign Affairs Committee, however, later clarified that he did not attend, though he tweeted in support.

Rep. Fred Keller, an Oversight member who joined the protest, "was acting in solidarity with those members of Congress who are not allowed in the hearings, to review testimony, or read transcripts of this secret inquiry. ... [He] believes the way this inquiry is being conducted is unfair and it needs to stop," according to a spokesperson.

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The protest Wednesday is the latest in a line of complaints from GOP lawmakers, who have argued that they are being cut out of the impeachment inquiry and that Democrats are holding hearings in secret. That’s not the case.
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Sarah Mimms on Twitter: "TWELVE of the Republicans who protested are actually on the committees doing the impeachment investigation so they could already get in the SCIF and have been in the depositions already h/t [MENTION=457]empty[/MENTION]wheel https://t.co/WjKBDprDb9" / Twitter
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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "What’s worse: since many of the flash mob already sat on the committees, they *knew* how serious a breach it was to bring devices into SCIF & did it anyways.
Our country is a game to them. Remember that the next time they use “natl security” as an excuse for their bad ideas." / Twitter
 
lpetrich said:
Republicans Stormed Into The Impeachment Investigation's Secure Room On Capitol Hill
Notably, according to a list provided by Gaetz's office of the Republicans who RSVP'd to join the protest, 12 of them are members of the Oversight or Foreign Affairs committees — including Rep. Jim Jordan, the ranking member on the Oversight Committee — meaning they have been allowed to sit in on all depositions held in the SCIF in recent weeks. A spokesperson for Rep. Ken Buck, who is on the list and serves on the Foreign Affairs Committee, however, later clarified that he did not attend, though he tweeted in support.

Rep. Fred Keller, an Oversight member who joined the protest, "was acting in solidarity with those members of Congress who are not allowed in the hearings, to review testimony, or read transcripts of this secret inquiry. ... [He] believes the way this inquiry is being conducted is unfair and it needs to stop," according to a spokesperson.

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The protest Wednesday is the latest in a line of complaints from GOP lawmakers, who have argued that they are being cut out of the impeachment inquiry and that Democrats are holding hearings in secret. That’s not the case.
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Sarah Mimms on Twitter: "TWELVE of the Republicans who protested are actually on the committees doing the impeachment investigation so they could already get in the SCIF and have been in the depositions already h/t [MENTION=457]empty[/MENTION]wheel https://t.co/WjKBDprDb9" / Twitter
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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "What’s worse: since many of the flash mob already sat on the committees, they *knew* how serious a breach it was to bring devices into SCIF & did it anyways.
Our country is a game to them. Remember that the next time they use “natl security” as an excuse for their bad ideas." / Twitter
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It would be pretty cool if Democrats went tit for tat in this partisan bullshit.
 
lpetrich said:
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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "What’s worse: since many of the flash mob already sat on the committees, they *knew* how serious a breach it was to bring devices into SCIF & did it anyways.
Our country is a game to them. Remember that the next time they use “natl security” as an excuse for their bad ideas." / Twitter
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Oooh. I'm a strong democrat and this tweet smells of hypocrisy atop hypocrisy.

It's the House of Representatives. Most everything done there is political. Many are pranks.

Yeah, she's young and a wide eyed wow. Still pandering should be called out.

We don't need democrats laying hands on genitals too.
 
angelo said:
Hypocrisy and Dems are long time bedfellows.
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It would be hypocritical to condemn the use of the word now, but to have used it in the late 90's.

Much like it is hypocritical to have supported impeachment inquiry via a special prosecutor who was given nearly no bounds in his investigation into the sitting US President while at the same time thinking three bipartisan House panel run inquiry behind closed doors because of sensitive information is inappropriate.
 
The Republicans who tried to upset the inquiry are a bunch of morons. For one thing, 47 members of the inquiry are Republicans, but you have to be on one of three committees to take part in the inquiry. Many have compared it to a grand jury. A grand jury's considerations are held in private. A grand jury decides whether or not there is enough evidence to bring a case forward. These Republican must know that. It appears as if all they are doing is trying to stall the hearing so it can be dragged out a lot longer.

The hearings will be totally open, most likely in the next few weeks. Some of the idiotic Republicans are claiming that their little pizza sit in is helping make the hearings open. Bullshit! Pelosi has said for weeks that the hearings will be open to the public soon.
 
Responding to an earlier AOC tweet,
Rep. Alex Mooney on Twitter: "Hey @AOC I thought you supported Open and Transparent government. Truth is for @AOC the ends justify the means and she gladly reverts to Soviet style secret hearings in the Capitol basement. Socialism and one-sided Kangaroo Courts have no place in the #USA #ExposeSchiffSCIF" / Twitter
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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "Rep. Mooney, you & I both know that when a massive crime is committed, the 1st step is to separate witnesses & get their stories to see what adds up.
You know that making these depositions public will help potential criminals line up their testimony.
Why do you want to do that?" / Twitter

Chad Pergram on Twitter: "6) Fox is told there was never any chance mbrs who barged into SCIF would be arrested by USCP wBut some mbrs members asked to be arrested. They wanted the optic of being frog marched out of the SCIF in front of TV cameras. That would help w/GOP narrative of Dem process abuse" / Twitter
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Ryan J. Reilly on Twitter: "Fox News reports some Republican members “asked to be arrested.”" / Twitter
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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Twitter: "There have been many aspects of the GOP’s little flash mob that have relied on mountains of entitlement and privilege, but them *asking* the police to be arrested is just...
Well, let’s just say my community would find it hard to understand why *anyone* would ask to be arrested." / Twitter
Great.
 
angelo said:
I have reserved respect for Mr Alan M. Dershowitz but this makes perfect sense. The Dems have been looking in every nook and cranny to try to undo Killery's landslide loss in 2016.

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/15069/impeachers-new-crimes
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Comey (Republican), was the one looking into the Michael Flynn issue and wouldn't drop it even after being pressured by Trump. Trump fired Comey (Republican) and Rod Rosenstein (of whom Trump had appointed as the Deputy Attorney General) took over. The Trump nominated official launched an investigation headed by Mueller (when named the GOP applauded his selection).

The Democrats had no control or influence on the Executive Branch headed investigation into Russian collusion into the 2016 election run by Robert Mueller.

People like Dershowitz love to overlook this substantial tidbit.
 
Now dirtbag Graham is whining that the House minority should have equal subpoena power.
Maybe the minority in the Senate should have equal power too?

YO LINDSEY!
Remember that election we had in 2018?
YOU LOST.
GET OVER IT!​
 
Well, the heat could be turned up a bit.

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Lawyers for former national security adviser John Bolton have had talks with the impeachment inquiry committees about a possible deposition, according to a source familiar.

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Another source familiar said Hill testified about a July 10 meeting on Ukraine where Sondland discussed investigations, something that was interpreted as a reference to the President's call for investigations into the Bidens.

Bolton and Hill both were concerned about the comments, and Bolton urged Hill to report the incident to National Security Council lawyer John Eisenberg, according to the source familiar with her testimony.
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The Trump Glacier has shifted again. I think it is a tremendous shift.

Kellyanne Conway (my emphasis) said:
There was no quid pro quo intended.
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Today on legalese, we discuss mens rea and how the Trump Admin is shifting their defense of a crime to what Trump intended to mean, not what he actually said.

Ukrainian President: ...We are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps specifically we are almost. ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes.
American President: I would like you to do us a favor though...

Not quid pro quo because Trump didn't intend asking a favor for military aid to mean it was a quid pro quo?
 
I didn’t intendto rob the bank. I just informed the teller that I had a gun and wasn’t afraid to use it, then asked for a big withdrawal. It was just a discussion about second amendment rights.
 
So, 'nice leg you got there, be a shame if someone should, whaddaya callit, break it,' may not be intended as a threat, it's just a comment on the vagaries of fate and their impacts on an athlete's career.

It's not a protection racket if you SAY, "Now, this isn't a protection racket" when you hand them a price list, for how much money will prevent a fire, a bomb, a flash mob with tire irons...
 
Keith&Co. said:
So, 'nice leg you got there, be a shame if someone should, whaddaya callit, break it,' may not be intended as a threat, it's just a comment on the vagaries of fate and their impacts on an athlete's career.

It's not a protection racket if you SAY, "Now, this isn't a protection racket" when you hand them a price list, for how much money will prevent a fire, a bomb, a flash mob with tire irons...
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Isn't this the problem? Because Trump didn't hide it that much.

Ukrainian President: ...We are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps specifically we are almost. ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes.
American President: I would like you to do us a favor though...

Mulvaney then says it is 'business as usual' and quid pro quo if but for a few more words.

Really, the Clinton Impeachment case equivalent would be Lewinsky blowing Pres. Clinton while giving his Grand Jury testimony. And to make matters worse, the significance of Quid Pro Quo is it proves the attempt to get Ukraine involved in the US Election, which in itself is very problematic and an abuse of power. The Trump Admin has people running in circles creating smokescreens, when we have the dead body, the smoking gun, and his prints on the gun. And the GOP is allowing this absurd denial to continue.
 
Judge rules DOJ must turn over Mueller grand jury material to House Democrats

A federal judge on Friday ruled that the Justice Department must turn over former special counsel Robert Mueller's grand jury evidence to the House Judiciary Committee, a groundbreaking victory for Democrats in their effort to investigate whether President Donald Trump should be impeached for obstructing the long-running Russia probe.

In a double victory for Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Judge Beryl Howell — the chief federal judge in Washington — ruled that the impeachment inquiry Democrats have launched is valid even though the House hasn't taken a formal vote on it. The decision rejects arguments by DOJ and congressional Republicans that a formal vote is necessary to launch impeachment proceedings.
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Tom Elliott on Twitter: ".@AOC: Trump’s impeachment an “open and shut case.”
“He has committed impeachable crimes. It’s just a question of how many and how many people were involved and who knew." https://t.co/TTltj4dRbD" / Twitter

Nice rant by her - Trump committed some of his crimes out in the open.

That may be why some of his defenders are making an issue out of his intentions, because they recognize that he will lose when judged only by his actions. That does not seem very convincing, since he does not seem the least bit regretful about his actions.

angelo said:
I have reserved respect for Mr Alan M. Dershowitz but this makes perfect sense. The Dems have been looking in every nook and cranny to try to undo Killery's landslide loss in 2016.
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She won the popular vote and she lost some states by very narrow margins.
 
lpetrich said:
She won the popular vote and she lost some states by very narrow margins.
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I wonder what the point the conservotards think they're making by characterizing a 3-million popular vote loss as a landslide victory...
Are they trying to underscore the fact that they can lie like dogs and nobody can make them pay for it?
 
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