Police Misconduct Catch All Thread

[Rhea]

According to the man's family, we aren't getting an independent evaluation. Even if they were pressing so hard to cut off breathing (which it doesn't look like, note that the head is not twisted like with George Floyd), two minutes shouldn't be enough to fry his brain. I strongly suspect this is an excited delirium death.

Are you saying if he had never encountered the police, he would have just dropped dead on the sidewalk at the same moment anyway?

We don't know, we don't have good data on what happens in these cases. What appears to happen is the body is put way into overdrive (note the nudity--this is a common hallmark of such cases. The body is in overdrive, they overheat and they strip off clothes to cool down) and then when the come back down the system swings too far in the other direction and the body shuts down--they die without apparent cause. In the old days it was figured they died of the beating they got with nightsticks in an effort to subdue them but as we have captured more of them without the heavy use of force it looks like sometimes they simply die.

Note, also, that simply being arrested could have aggravated the problem. The stress would have pushed an already-overstressed system even further, thus increasing the chance of a lethal rebound.

Or it could have been the arrest itself caused a death.

 

[lpetrich]

Kenneth Walker says initial charge ‘meant to silence’ him and ’cover up Breonna’s murder’

The boyfriend of Breonna Taylor addressed a gathering of media Tuesday, hours after he filed a lawsuit against LMPD and others, alleging police misconduct the night of the raid that left Taylor dead in the hallway of her apartment.

Narcotics officers used a battering ram to break into Taylor’s apartment on March 13, causing Kenneth Walker, a legal gun owner, to fire what he would later call a warning shot, prompting a return volley of gunfire from the officers. Taylor was shot five times.

Walker was initially charged with attempted murder of a police officer, but Jefferson County Commonwealth Attorney Tom Wine dropped that charge in May.

Walker, 28, said in downtown Louisville on Tuesday that that charge was “meant to silence me and cover-up Breonna’s murder.”

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In the lawsuit, Walker seeks unspecified monetary damages from LMPD, as well as the City of Louisville, for assault, battery, false arrest and imprisonment, malicious prosecution, and several other claims.

When Wine dropped the attempted-murder charge against Walker in May, he did so “without prejudice,” meaning the county could charge him again in the future. Walker’s lawsuit seeks to prevent that from happening, citing Kentucky’s “stand your ground” law.

The lawsuit also claims LMPD “threatened Kenny’s life, illegally detained Kenny, interrogated him under false pretenses, ignored his account as corroborated by neighbors, and arrested and jailed Kenny.”

 

[lpetrich]

Breonna Taylor's boyfriend files civil complaint against Louisville police and city

Kenneth Walker "has already sustained life-long trauma, still fears harm from those who consider him a danger and seek to take away his freedom again," according to a complaint filed by his lawyer, Steve Romines, in Jefferson County District Court.

Louisville police Sgt. Lamont Washington told NBC News they do not comment on pending litigation.

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"But as the mayor has said, Breonna Taylor's death was a tragedy, and justice, peace and healing are what is needed for her, for her loved ones and for our community."

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"They refused to answer when we yelled, 'Who is it?'" Walker told reporters Tuesday on the courthouse steps. "Fifteen minutes later, Breonna was dead from a hail of police gunfire and I was in police custody."

Romines said the defendants have to be held liable for the botched raid.

"They said there's drugs there. There's no drugs there. They said there's money there. There's no money there," Romines said.

"Everything that they said about this was false. And yet they (said) 'Well no harm, no foul.' No. There has to be consequences."

 

[ZiprHead]

 

[ZiprHead]

Utah police shot a 13-year-old autistic boy after his mother called 911 for help

When Golda Barton dialed 911 on Friday, she hoped emergency responders could help hospitalize her 13-year-old son, who has Asperger syndrome and was having a mental crisis.

Instead, a Salt Lake City police officer repeatedly shot Linden Cameron after he ran away, leaving the boy in serious condition with injuries to his intestines, bladder, shoulder and ankles. Barton says he was unarmed, and police said they didn’t find a weapon at the scene.

“He’s a small child. Why didn’t you just tackle him?” Barton said in a tearful interview with KUTV on Sunday. “He’s a baby. He has mental issues.”

Barton said she’s gotten few answers from police. Salt Lake City’s mayor pledged on Sunday that an investigation into the incident would be quick.

“No matter the circumstances, what happened on Friday night is a tragedy, and I expect this investigation to be handled swiftly and transparently for the sake of everyone involved,” Mayor Erin Mendenhall (D) said in a statement to the Salt Lake Tribune.

Local autism advocates also decried the shooting and called for changes to how police respond to mental health crises.

“Police were called because help was needed but instead more harm was done when officers from the SLPD expected a 13-year-old experiencing a mental health episode to act calmer and collected than adult trained officers,” Neurodiverse Utah said in a statement.

Idiots.

 

[Angry Floof]

Utah police shot a 13-year-old autistic boy after his mother called 911 for help

When Golda Barton dialed 911 on Friday, she hoped emergency responders could help hospitalize her 13-year-old son, who has Asperger syndrome and was having a mental crisis.

Instead, a Salt Lake City police officer repeatedly shot Linden Cameron after he ran away, leaving the boy in serious condition with injuries to his intestines, bladder, shoulder and ankles. Barton says he was unarmed, and police said they didn’t find a weapon at the scene.

“He’s a small child. Why didn’t you just tackle him?” Barton said in a tearful interview with KUTV on Sunday. “He’s a baby. He has mental issues.”

Barton said she’s gotten few answers from police. Salt Lake City’s mayor pledged on Sunday that an investigation into the incident would be quick.

“No matter the circumstances, what happened on Friday night is a tragedy, and I expect this investigation to be handled swiftly and transparently for the sake of everyone involved,” Mayor Erin Mendenhall (D) said in a statement to the Salt Lake Tribune.

Local autism advocates also decried the shooting and called for changes to how police respond to mental health crises.

“Police were called because help was needed but instead more harm was done when officers from the SLPD expected a 13-year-old experiencing a mental health episode to act calmer and collected than adult trained officers,” Neurodiverse Utah said in a statement.

Idiots.

Depraved, degenerate fucking idiots.

 

[atrib]

Utah police shot a 13-year-old autistic boy after his mother called 911 for help

When Golda Barton dialed 911 on Friday, she hoped emergency responders could help hospitalize her 13-year-old son, who has Asperger syndrome and was having a mental crisis.

Instead, a Salt Lake City police officer repeatedly shot Linden Cameron after he ran away, leaving the boy in serious condition with injuries to his intestines, bladder, shoulder and ankles. Barton says he was unarmed, and police said they didn’t find a weapon at the scene.

“He’s a small child. Why didn’t you just tackle him?” Barton said in a tearful interview with KUTV on Sunday. “He’s a baby. He has mental issues.”

Barton said she’s gotten few answers from police. Salt Lake City’s mayor pledged on Sunday that an investigation into the incident would be quick.

“No matter the circumstances, what happened on Friday night is a tragedy, and I expect this investigation to be handled swiftly and transparently for the sake of everyone involved,” Mayor Erin Mendenhall (D) said in a statement to the Salt Lake Tribune.

Local autism advocates also decried the shooting and called for changes to how police respond to mental health crises.

“Police were called because help was needed but instead more harm was done when officers from the SLPD expected a 13-year-old experiencing a mental health episode to act calmer and collected than adult trained officers,” Neurodiverse Utah said in a statement.

Idiots.

This is what the police are trained to do. They are taught to use lethal force for any situation they cannot fully understand or control. They are taught that their authority is absolute, and any situation where this authority cannot be fully enforced is a situation where lethal force is justified. What a waste!

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Utah police shot a 13-year-old autistic boy after his mother called 911 for help

When Golda Barton dialed 911 on Friday, she hoped emergency responders could help hospitalize her 13-year-old son, who has Asperger syndrome and was having a mental crisis.

Instead, a Salt Lake City police officer repeatedly shot Linden Cameron after he ran away, leaving the boy in serious condition with injuries to his intestines, bladder, shoulder and ankles. Barton says he was unarmed, and police said they didn’t find a weapon at the scene.

“He’s a small child. Why didn’t you just tackle him?” Barton said in a tearful interview with KUTV on Sunday. “He’s a baby. He has mental issues.”

Barton said she’s gotten few answers from police. Salt Lake City’s mayor pledged on Sunday that an investigation into the incident would be quick.

“No matter the circumstances, what happened on Friday night is a tragedy, and I expect this investigation to be handled swiftly and transparently for the sake of everyone involved,” Mayor Erin Mendenhall (D) said in a statement to the Salt Lake Tribune.

Local autism advocates also decried the shooting and called for changes to how police respond to mental health crises.

“Police were called because help was needed but instead more harm was done when officers from the SLPD expected a 13-year-old experiencing a mental health episode to act calmer and collected than adult trained officers,” Neurodiverse Utah said in a statement.

Idiots.

Sorry, but they didn't shoot him for running away. I don't know what really happened but that's not it.

 

[ZiprHead]

Utah police shot a 13-year-old autistic boy after his mother called 911 for help

When Golda Barton dialed 911 on Friday, she hoped emergency responders could help hospitalize her 13-year-old son, who has Asperger syndrome and was having a mental crisis.

Instead, a Salt Lake City police officer repeatedly shot Linden Cameron after he ran away, leaving the boy in serious condition with injuries to his intestines, bladder, shoulder and ankles. Barton says he was unarmed, and police said they didn’t find a weapon at the scene.

“He’s a small child. Why didn’t you just tackle him?” Barton said in a tearful interview with KUTV on Sunday. “He’s a baby. He has mental issues.”

Barton said she’s gotten few answers from police. Salt Lake City’s mayor pledged on Sunday that an investigation into the incident would be quick.

“No matter the circumstances, what happened on Friday night is a tragedy, and I expect this investigation to be handled swiftly and transparently for the sake of everyone involved,” Mayor Erin Mendenhall (D) said in a statement to the Salt Lake Tribune.

Local autism advocates also decried the shooting and called for changes to how police respond to mental health crises.

“Police were called because help was needed but instead more harm was done when officers from the SLPD expected a 13-year-old experiencing a mental health episode to act calmer and collected than adult trained officers,” Neurodiverse Utah said in a statement.

Idiots.

Sorry, but they didn't shoot him for running away. I don't know what really happened but that's not it.

 

[WAB]

Utah police shot a 13-year-old autistic boy after his mother called 911 for help

When Golda Barton dialed 911 on Friday, she hoped emergency responders could help hospitalize her 13-year-old son, who has Asperger syndrome and was having a mental crisis.

Instead, a Salt Lake City police officer repeatedly shot Linden Cameron after he ran away, leaving the boy in serious condition with injuries to his intestines, bladder, shoulder and ankles. Barton says he was unarmed, and police said they didn’t find a weapon at the scene.

“He’s a small child. Why didn’t you just tackle him?” Barton said in a tearful interview with KUTV on Sunday. “He’s a baby. He has mental issues.”

Barton said she’s gotten few answers from police. Salt Lake City’s mayor pledged on Sunday that an investigation into the incident would be quick.

“No matter the circumstances, what happened on Friday night is a tragedy, and I expect this investigation to be handled swiftly and transparently for the sake of everyone involved,” Mayor Erin Mendenhall (D) said in a statement to the Salt Lake Tribune.

Local autism advocates also decried the shooting and called for changes to how police respond to mental health crises.

“Police were called because help was needed but instead more harm was done when officers from the SLPD expected a 13-year-old experiencing a mental health episode to act calmer and collected than adult trained officers,” Neurodiverse Utah said in a statement.

Idiots.

This is what the police are trained to do. They are taught to use lethal force for any situation they cannot fully understand or control. They are taught that their authority is absolute, and any situation where this authority cannot be fully enforced is a situation where lethal force is justified...

No. That's not how police are trained.

 

[Worldtraveller]

Utah police shot a 13-year-old autistic boy after his mother called 911 for help

When Golda Barton dialed 911 on Friday, she hoped emergency responders could help hospitalize her 13-year-old son, who has Asperger syndrome and was having a mental crisis.

Instead, a Salt Lake City police officer repeatedly shot Linden Cameron after he ran away, leaving the boy in serious condition with injuries to his intestines, bladder, shoulder and ankles. Barton says he was unarmed, and police said they didn’t find a weapon at the scene.

“He’s a small child. Why didn’t you just tackle him?” Barton said in a tearful interview with KUTV on Sunday. “He’s a baby. He has mental issues.”

Barton said she’s gotten few answers from police. Salt Lake City’s mayor pledged on Sunday that an investigation into the incident would be quick.

“No matter the circumstances, what happened on Friday night is a tragedy, and I expect this investigation to be handled swiftly and transparently for the sake of everyone involved,” Mayor Erin Mendenhall (D) said in a statement to the Salt Lake Tribune.

Local autism advocates also decried the shooting and called for changes to how police respond to mental health crises.

“Police were called because help was needed but instead more harm was done when officers from the SLPD expected a 13-year-old experiencing a mental health episode to act calmer and collected than adult trained officers,” Neurodiverse Utah said in a statement.

Idiots.

Sorry, but they didn't shoot him for running away. I don't know what really happened but that's not it.

So you don't know what happened, but you definitely know what didn't happen?

You have special psychic powers now? Can you give me the winning lottery numbers for next week, too?

Also, I notice you ignoring that 12 million (give or take) other cases presented here to focus on just this one little tidbit. In case you think no one else is noticing.

 

[Angry Floof]

 

[Angry Floof]

GEORGIA COPS SMOTHER, BEAT LYFT PASSENGER Who Wouldn't Show His ID

The man, his cousin and a third person were passengers in a Lyft that was pulled over in Clayton County, Georgia ... they say it was pulled over because a tail light was out. They say Sheriff's deputies asked for his license but he didn't have one. That's when they say a deputy asked to see the passengers' licenses. They asked the officers why they had to show ID since they had done nothing wrong.

Driver didn't have a license so they brutalized a black passenger for not showing an ID. A passenger. The Trumpian right wing authoritarian disease that has taken hold of law enforcement is becoming more blood thirsty and violent by the day.

 

[Toni]

Are you saying if he had never encountered the police, he would have just dropped dead on the sidewalk at the same moment anyway?

He was on PCP, so yes, there was a decent chance of dropping dead even without the fight with the police.

I couldn't find a lot of open source literature on death from PCP intoxication or use but I did find this article, with an excerpt below.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK507865/

There were 75,538 emergency department visits in 2011 due to PCP, according to the Drug Abuse Warning Network. This was up 400% from 2005 (14,825). Seventy-two percent of PCP-related emergency department visits in 2011 involved PCP used in combination with other drugs such as marijuana, cocaine, analgesics, and anxiolytics. The majority of emergency department visits due to PCP in 2011 involved male patients (69%). Forty-five percent were patients who were 25 to 34 years old. Patients who were aged 18 to 24 years old and 35 to 44 years old accounted for 19% of emergency department visits each. According to the American Association of Poison Control Centers, there were two deaths from PCP in 2012.

So, sure, it is vaguely possible to die from PCP intoxcation. I mean in 2012, two people DID die from PCP.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I couldn't find a lot of open source literature on death from PCP intoxication or use but I did find this article, with an excerpt below.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK507865/

There were 75,538 emergency department visits in 2011 due to PCP, according to the Drug Abuse Warning Network. This was up 400% from 2005 (14,825). Seventy-two percent of PCP-related emergency department visits in 2011 involved PCP used in combination with other drugs such as marijuana, cocaine, analgesics, and anxiolytics. The majority of emergency department visits due to PCP in 2011 involved male patients (69%). Forty-five percent were patients who were 25 to 34 years old. Patients who were aged 18 to 24 years old and 35 to 44 years old accounted for 19% of emergency department visits each. According to the American Association of Poison Control Centers, there were two deaths from PCP in 2012.

So, sure, it is vaguely possible to die from PCP intoxcation. I mean in 2012, two people DID die from PCP.

The excited delirium deaths don't get reported as PCP deaths.

 

[Derec]

Driver didn't have a license so they brutalized a black passenger for not showing an ID. A passenger.

There is no evidence the passanger was "brutalized" or that the takedown was merely due to him refusing to show id. From your own source:

There was clearly a confrontation, because the video starts with the man on the ground with 2 deputies on top of him. At one point, you see a deputy punch the man repeatedly in the face, drawing blood.
You hear a woman -- apparently the man's cousin -- screaming at the cops to stop punching, and the deputy responds, "He's biting my hand."

The video starts in medias res and does not show the start of the confrontation. Also, why is it so hard to simply show id? Maybe the bitey passenger had warrants?

The Trumpian right wing authoritarian disease that has taken hold of law enforcement is becoming more blood thirsty and violent by the day.

The Clayton County sheriff is a black Democrat. But nice to see that your prejudices are alive and well.

 

[Angry Floof]

There is no evidence the passanger was "brutalized" or that the takedown was merely due to him refusing to show id. From your own source:

The video starts in medias res and does not show the start of the confrontation. Also, why is it so hard to simply show id? Maybe the bitey passenger had warrants?

Why is it so hard to understand that cops aren't supposed to beat up anyone for no reason? They don't have that right. Why is is so hard to understand that cops are not everyone's ultimate absolute authority and can't do whatever they want to anyone without limits? Is it rocket science that a passenger not having an ID does not justify police doing any damn thing to that person?

But why do I ask? You can't even grasp that cops do not have the right to kill anyone for crimes, any crime at all, that they are not judge, jury, and executioner of black people, so why would you understand just ordinary expectations that cops won't brutalize you for no damn fucking reason at all? And by "you," of course I mean black people. If you're a white guy, you will be treated with kid gloves in any interaction with police, even if you just shot up a fucking school.

Also, I had no idea about the black Democrat. But of course you would look that up to confirm your own prejudices. I mean, how would you recognize someone who doesn't do that? And by "you," I damn well mean you personally.

 

[Derec]

Why is it so hard to understand that cops aren't supposed to beat up anyone for no reason?

Not hard to understand at all. But how hard is it to understand that your article did not report that the deputies acted "for no reason". He may have initiated violence. We know he bit a deputy at some point.

Is it rocket science that a passenger not having an ID does not justify police doing any damn thing to that person?

I am not a lawyer, so I do not know the exact law here. Do you?

If you're a white guy, you will be treated with kid gloves in any interaction with police, even if you just shot up a fucking school.

I never put that to the test, because I ever refused to show id or bit a sheriff's deputy, but I very much doubt it would turn out well for my white ass if I did try that down in Clayton County.

Also, I had no idea about the black Democrat. But of course you would look that up to confirm your own prejudices.

I fucking live here. I did not have to look up shit. Victor Hill is a well known quantity in metro Atlanta.

I mean, how would you recognize someone who doesn't do that? And by "you," I damn well mean you personally.

Doesn't do what?

 

[Angry Floof]

Not hard to understand at all. But how hard is it to understand that your article did not report that the deputies acted "for no reason". He may have initiated violence. We know he bit a deputy at some point.


I am not a lawyer, so I do not know the exact law here. Do you?

If you're a white guy, you will be treated with kid gloves in any interaction with police, even if you just shot up a fucking school.

I never put that to the test, because I ever refused to show id or bit a sheriff's deputy, but I very much doubt it would turn out well for my white ass if I did try that down in Clayton County.

Also, I had no idea about the black Democrat. But of course you would look that up to confirm your own prejudices.

I fucking live here. I did not have to look up shit. Victor Hill is a well known quantity in metro Atlanta.

I mean, how would you recognize someone who doesn't do that? And by "you," I damn well mean you personally.

Doesn't do what?

Always automatically side with power. Never, ever err on the side of the powerless. It's a sickness.

If I'm going to err, I will err on the side of the powerless, never on the side of powerful people with badges, weapons, the support of weak ass authoritarian followers, and of course, prejudice and corruption.

Regardless of how this particular situation plays out, you are on the wrong side of history.

 

[ZiprHead]

I am not a lawyer, so I do not know the exact law here. Do you?

Passengers are not required to show ID.

Road Rules: Do car passengers have to show police their ID?

But how about other situations? Can an officer ask a passenger for ID when it appears there is no reason for the request? In the U.S. Court of Appeals case Stufflebeam v. Harris, the court concluded that an officer can request ID from a passenger, but if the officer has no reason to contact the passenger regarding any sort of investigation, the passenger is not required to provide identification.