Toni
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The red bit above is what I was getting at - by controlling the girl's reproductivity, and ensuring that she only has one sex partner, they also ensure that any offspring are theirs.
Thus... child brides and women viewed as property. All to control access to baby-making for that man alone. It's not about them being at peak fertility, it's about making sure that their children aren't someone else's get.
Sure. I read the part in red the first time. A couple of times. I thoroughly understood the logic. Plays very well into the male world view. But not modern reality.
Tell me how important all that part in red is in the United States, Europe, Australia. Most of Asia. Much of Africa and the Middle East.
There is nothing 'natural' about men wanting barely pubescent girls.
I think we're talking past each other. I don't think it's "natural". I think it's a result of a brutal, violent patriarchal society viewing females as their property and chattel. It's not hardwired, it's a result of males being bigger, stronger, more aggressive, and pretty much running the entire world on a "might-makes-right" principle... which includes raping and mutilating women across the globe and treating women as sub-human. It's culturally ingrained, and is something that has entered the culture of males as a result.
It's NOT something I approve of. In case that part wasn't clear?
I’m sorry. It’s really that I think your take allows (some) men and maybe some women off the hook way too easily by seeing this attraction for too young kids as being somehow the result of powers (societal, evolutionary, whatever) being just too big and powerful to resist.
I don’t see it that way at all. I see your descriptions as convenient excuses to cover pathological insecurity and desire to control someone else, with the added bonus of sexual access to someone who isn’t in a position to stand up for themselves or to understand ramifications —all with the convenient excuses: It’s not pedophilia! They are (barely) pubescent—so ages about 11 to 14 or 15. AND men are just *programmed* that way. It’s all bullshit whether we are talking about men or women who are supposed to be grown preying on kids too young (or fantasizing about it).
I don’t see it as societal pressures. I see it as grotesque immaturity and selfishness with a pathological need/desire for control.