Merged So what's next for Trump?

[TomC]

Hoping for him losing the next two elections and then he dies.

How about him stroking out while on a tirade about the "stolen" 2024 election when he loses?

How about stroking out the morning after election day? So he can lay in bed somewhere and watch everyone on every TV channel congratulating Kamala Harris and Tim Walz on their historic victory!

Maybe get a sympathy call from Harris.

I don't want Trump to die before suffering for a good long time. Does that make me a bad person?
Tom

 

[GenesisNemesis]

The bastard Kissinger lived to be 100, I don't think Trump will live that long, but I think he may live to at least 85 or 86.

 

[ideologyhunter]

Trump's pa lived to be 93 -- had his first diagnosis of signs of dementia at age 85. So there's that.

 

[lpetrich]

Where might Donald Trump want to flee to? Using Google Translate, I have composed this phrasebook for him.

Orbán! Engedj be! Ellopták a választást!

Путин! Впусти меня! Они украли выборы!
Putin! Vpusti menya! Oni ukrali moi vybory!

김정은! 날 들여보내! 그들이 선거를 훔쳤어!
Gimjeong-eun! Nal deul-yeobonae! Geudeul-i seongeoleul humchyeoss-eo!

习近平！让我进去！他们窃取了选举！
Xíjìnpíng! Ràng wǒ jìnqù! Tāmen qièqǔle xuǎnjǔ!

محمد بن سلمان! دعني أدخل! لقد سرقوا الانتخابات!
Muhamad bin Salman! Daeni 'adkhal! Laqad saraquu aliantikhabati!

Translations of:

(Leader)! Let me in! They stole the election!

 

[Tigers!]

Where might Donald Trump want to flee to? Using Google Translate, I have composed this phrasebook for him.

Orbán! Engedj be! Ellopták a választást!

Путин! Впусти меня! Они украли выборы!
Putin! Vpusti menya! Oni ukrali moi vybory!

김정은! 날 들여보내! 그들이 선거를 훔쳤어!
Gimjeong-eun! Nal deul-yeobonae! Geudeul-i seongeoleul humchyeoss-eo!

习近平！让我进去！他们窃取了选举！
Xíjìnpíng! Ràng wǒ jìnqù! Tāmen qièqǔle xuǎnjǔ!

محمد بن سلمان! دعني أدخل! لقد سرقوا الانتخابات!
Muhamad bin Salman! Daeni 'adkhal! Laqad saraquu aliantikhabati!

Translations of:

(Leader)! Let me in! They stole the election!

Aussie translation:
"Go visit a taxidermist Donald"

 

[Loren Pechtel]

习近平！让我进去！他们窃取了选举！
Xíjìnpíng! Ràng wǒ jìnqù! Tāmen qièqǔle xuǎnjǔ!

Google doesn't do a very good job with Chinese. A proper rendering has a space between the Xi and the Jinping.

 

[robnisch]

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/27/politics/trump-superseding-indictment-january-6/index.html

Probably too late to matter, but, keep at it Jack!

 

[ZiprHead]

Liquor licenses at two Trump golf courses in NJ not renewed. July 19 hearing planned

Liquor licenses at two of three golf clubs owned by former President Donald Trump in New Jersey have been suspended.

www.northjersey.com

Will Trump's patrons be willing to go dry?

 

[Shadowy Man]

Liquor licenses at two Trump golf courses in NJ not renewed. July 19 hearing planned

Liquor licenses at two of three golf clubs owned by former President Donald Trump in New Jersey have been suspended.

www.northjersey.com

Will Trump's patrons be willing to go dry?

That’s from two months ago. Any update on the hearing?

 

[lpetrich]

On the other side, Republicans are privately debating 'how best to accelerate Trump’s exit': report - Raw Story
noting
The GOP Is Better Off With Kamala Harris in the White House - POLITICO - "To dominate the country once more, Republicans need to hasten the move to a post-Trump party."

The best possible outcome in November for the future of the Republican Party is for former President Donald Trump to lose and lose soundly. GOP leaders won’t tell you that on the record. I just did.

If he loses, he will likely call his loss fraudulent, and the larger the margin, the less convincing his claims of fraud will be, and author Jonathan Martin argues that the weaker his hold on the party will be. Ever since 2015, he has had a hold on the party that seems much like the Mule in the Foundation series.

If he still continues to have support in the party, he may run again in 2028. That is why some Republicans who dislike him want him to win this year so that he will be term-limited out in 2028.

In fact, asking around with Republicans last week, the most fervent private debate I came across in the party was how best to accelerate Trump’s exit to the 19th Hole.

A reference to a standard golf course having 18 holes, and he loves golfing.

One high-level Republican, conceding it may only be “wishful thinking,” even floated the idea of a Harris victory followed by Biden pardons of both his son, Hunter, and Trump. That would take the issue of both cases off Harris’ plate and, more to the point, drain the energy behind Trump’s persecution complex so that Republicans can get on with the business of winning elections.

But he would likely treat a pardon as an exoneration, and that would likely help him.

As they’ve demonstrated for going on a decade now, Republican leaders will repeatedly bow to the preference of their base over their own judgment when it comes to Trump.

Almost as if he is controlling his party with telepathy, like the Mule in the Foundation series.

Would the vast majority of Republican activists suddenly embrace their own version of the Democratic Leadership Council, which pushed Democrats toward the center after their repeated losses in the 1980s? Probably not.

Many would stew in fetid waters, believing their nominee was somehow cheated when the Democrats swapped in Harris for President Joe Biden. Those conspiracies would be nourished by, well, Trump himself and surely flourish in the closed-off information channels in which so many on the right confine themselves.

So, yes, moving past Trump in the aftermath of another defeat will hardly be easy.

But it’s essential if Republicans want to become a viable national party once more.

 Party divisions of United States Congresses and  Cyclical theory (United States history)

The last time the Republican Party had to do that, the party was out of the White House for 20 years, and in a minority in Congress for almost as long, back in the New Deal era.

 

[lpetrich]

The Republican Party has won the popular vote for the Presidency only once since 1992, in 2004, when George Bush II was re-elected. His first election, and that of Donald Trump, were helped by third-party spoiler candidates.

The party is also often losing otherwise-winnable downballot races, in part because Donald Trump thinks that he is a great genius at picking candidates, even though those candidates often lose. The party barely got the House in 2022, and it looks like it will lose in winnable races yet again, in Arizona and in North Carolina, because of its Trumpie candidates.

This is not all to say things are hunky-dory for Democrats. But that’s the point. Their precarious coalition is entirely dependent on sharing a common enemy, Trump, and has been for nearly a decade. Why do Republicans want to keep propping up their opposition?

The Democrats will have to enact policies that its voters will like, and not just feel that they have to sacrifice their principles to get Republicans' votes.

The best case for Trump’s defeat may, predictably, be Trump himself. He’s incoherent on abortion rights, unable even to appear at a cemetery without creating a political mess and is so bothered by those who’ve suffered the wounds of war that he slights Medal of Honor recipients. And, running against a female opponent, he’s pushing blowjob jokes about her and his last female opponent.

And that’s just the last two weeks.

This is to say nothing of Trump’s routine self-sabotage, mocking his advisers’ attempt to keep him on message, refusing to learn the basics of issues over nine years after he entered politics and making little effort to appeal to those in his own party who are uneasy with him.

 

[ZiprHead]

Looking back instead of what's next.

Russian Birth Tourism at Trump Properties

Video in the link

For those who prefer reading...

Russians are giving birth to dual-citizens at Trump's US properties

While President Trump cracks down on the children of undocumented migrants, wealthy Russians are using his properties to secure dual-citizenship for their babies.

www.standard.co.uk

While President Trump cracks down on the children of undocumented migrants, wealthy Russians are using his properties to secure dual-citizenship for their babies.

The President's Florida properties are a Russian birth tourism hotspot, according to a Daily Beast investigation. Trump resorts are a popular choice for birth tourism companies, who offer luxury holidays to help expectant Russian parents secure dual Russian and American citizenship for their baby by giving birth in the US.

Russian birth tourism companies are offering Trump apartments as part of packages costing £57,000 ($75,000) plus, as well as medical care, the Daily Beast found.

Status-Med, a Miami birth tourism company, offers a Trump Royale penthouse apartment for £5,300 ($7,000) a month alongside full access to the Sunny Medical Centre, which organises both beach yoga, get-togethers and medical care for expectant mothers.

On its website it describes itself as "a multidisciplinary medical center in the heart of Sunny Isles Beach, a fashionable Miami district with a large Russian community."

Status Med owner Vera Muzyka said Trump properties are in high demand among her clients.

“And also, the name Melania has become very popular,” she told the Daily Beast.

 

[Elixir]

If he still continues to have support in the party, he may run again in 2028. That is why some Republicans who dislike him want him to win this year so that he will be term-limited out in 2028.

WTF is the matter with ”some Republicans”?
Are they pretending that if Trump wins, he will leave office and go to jail in 2028?
There is ZERO chance that Trump will EVER leave power voluntarily. He never has and never will.
That fact should be obvious to anyone in possession of two neurons and a spirochete.

 

[robnisch]

Looking back instead of what's next.

Russian Birth Tourism at Trump Properties

Video in the link

For those who prefer reading...

Russians are giving birth to dual-citizens at Trump's US properties

While President Trump cracks down on the children of undocumented migrants, wealthy Russians are using his properties to secure dual-citizenship for their babies.

www.standard.co.uk

While President Trump cracks down on the children of undocumented migrants, wealthy Russians are using his properties to secure dual-citizenship for their babies.

The President's Florida properties are a Russian birth tourism hotspot, according to a Daily Beast investigation. Trump resorts are a popular choice for birth tourism companies, who offer luxury holidays to help expectant Russian parents secure dual Russian and American citizenship for their baby by giving birth in the US.

Russian birth tourism companies are offering Trump apartments as part of packages costing £57,000 ($75,000) plus, as well as medical care, the Daily Beast found.

Status-Med, a Miami birth tourism company, offers a Trump Royale penthouse apartment for £5,300 ($7,000) a month alongside full access to the Sunny Medical Centre, which organises both beach yoga, get-togethers and medical care for expectant mothers.

On its website it describes itself as "a multidisciplinary medical center in the heart of Sunny Isles Beach, a fashionable Miami district with a large Russian community."

Status Med owner Vera Muzyka said Trump properties are in high demand among her clients.

“And also, the name Melania has become very popular,” she told the Daily Beast.

U.S. Set To Announce New Restrictions On ‘Birth Tourism’

The U.S. administration plans to announce new visa restrictions aimed at eliminating so-called “birth tourism” in which pregnant women travel to the United States to give birth so their children will receive automatic citizenship, a system reportedly used by hundreds of Russian women each year.

www.rferl.org

This is a bit newer.

 

[ZiprHead]

^^^ Thanks for the update.

 

[ZiprHead]

Donald Trump hosting Jan. 6 awards gala sparks fury: 'Absolutely horrid'

A gala to raise money for those arrested after the January 6 2021 Capitol Hill riot is being held at a Trump owned resort.

www.newsweek.com

A January 6 "awards gala" is due to be hosted at Donald Trump's New Jersey golf resort, and the former president is listed as an "invited guest speaker," along with former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani.

The event, in Bedminster, has sparked outrage on social media. One former Republican White House official branded it "absolutely horrid," accusing Trump of "glorifying violence."

On January 6, 2021, hundreds of Trump supporters stormed Congress in a bid to prevent Joe Biden's 2020 presidential election victory from being certified, following a rally addressed by the then president who made discredited claims of election fraud. In the ensuing violence one demonstrator, 36-year-old Ashli Babbitt, was shot dead by police, five other deaths were linked to the mayhem, and many police and demonstrators were injured.

The gala is being organized by Stand in the Gap, a group formed to support "January 6th defendants and their families during their time in incarceration," and is being held on Thursday September 5. More than 1,200 people were charged over their alleged involvement in the Capitol riot, and more than 460 were sentenced to prison.

According to Stand in the Gap the "unforgettable evening" is being held to "honor and celebrate the twenty defendants who contributed to the powerful Justice For All song," along with "all J6 defendants who have shown incredible courage and sacrifice."

 

[Elixir]

Donald Trump hosting Jan. 6 awards gala sparks fury: 'Absolutely horrid'

A gala to raise money for those arrested after the January 6 2021 Capitol Hill riot is being held at a Trump owned resort.

www.newsweek.com

A January 6 "awards gala" is due to be hosted at Donald Trump's New Jersey golf resort, and the former president is listed as an "invited guest speaker," along with former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani.

The event, in Bedminster, has sparked outrage on social media. One former Republican White House official branded it "absolutely horrid," accusing Trump of "glorifying violence."

On January 6, 2021, hundreds of Trump supporters stormed Congress in a bid to prevent Joe Biden's 2020 presidential election victory from being certified, following a rally addressed by the then president who made discredited claims of election fraud. In the ensuing violence one demonstrator, 36-year-old Ashli Babbitt, was shot dead by police, five other deaths were linked to the mayhem, and many police and demonstrators were injured.

The gala is being organized by Stand in the Gap, a group formed to support "January 6th defendants and their families during their time in incarceration," and is being held on Thursday September 5. More than 1,200 people were charged over their alleged involvement in the Capitol riot, and more than 460 were sentenced to prison.

According to Stand in the Gap the "unforgettable evening" is being held to "honor and celebrate the twenty defendants who contributed to the powerful Justice For All song," along with "all J6 defendants who have shown incredible courage and sacrifice."

No comment?

 

[Arctish]

Donald Trump hosting Jan. 6 awards gala sparks fury: 'Absolutely horrid'

A gala to raise money for those arrested after the January 6 2021 Capitol Hill riot is being held at a Trump owned resort.

www.newsweek.com

A January 6 "awards gala" is due to be hosted at Donald Trump's New Jersey golf resort, and the former president is listed as an "invited guest speaker," along with former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani.

The event, in Bedminster, has sparked outrage on social media. One former Republican White House official branded it "absolutely horrid," accusing Trump of "glorifying violence."

On January 6, 2021, hundreds of Trump supporters stormed Congress in a bid to prevent Joe Biden's 2020 presidential election victory from being certified, following a rally addressed by the then president who made discredited claims of election fraud. In the ensuing violence one demonstrator, 36-year-old Ashli Babbitt, was shot dead by police, five other deaths were linked to the mayhem, and many police and demonstrators were injured.

The gala is being organized by Stand in the Gap, a group formed to support "January 6th defendants and their families during their time in incarceration," and is being held on Thursday September 5. More than 1,200 people were charged over their alleged involvement in the Capitol riot, and more than 460 were sentenced to prison.

According to Stand in the Gap the "unforgettable evening" is being held to "honor and celebrate the twenty defendants who contributed to the powerful Justice For All song," along with "all J6 defendants who have shown incredible courage and sacrifice."

No comment?

I threw up a little in my mouth reading that. I wasn't going to share but I guess someone should comment.

 

[Rhea]

I hope it bites him in the ass, and hard. Because it shows a man who will not honor the constitution.

 

[Spacetime Inhabitant]

On the other side, Republicans are privately debating 'how best to accelerate Trump’s exit': report - Raw Story
noting
The GOP Is Better Off With Kamala Harris in the White House - POLITICO - "To dominate the country once more, Republicans need to hasten the move to a post-Trump party."

The best possible outcome in November for the future of the Republican Party is for former President Donald Trump to lose and lose soundly. GOP leaders won’t tell you that on the record. I just did.

If he loses, he will likely call his loss fraudulent, and the larger the margin, the less convincing his claims of fraud will be, and author Jonathan Martin argues that the weaker his hold on the party will be. Ever since 2015, he has had a hold on the party that seems much like the Mule in the Foundation series.

If he still continues to have support in the party, he may run again in 2028. That is why some Republicans who dislike him want him to win this year so that he will be term-limited out in 2028.

In fact, asking around with Republicans last week, the most fervent private debate I came across in the party was how best to accelerate Trump’s exit to the 19th Hole.

A reference to a standard golf course having 18 holes, and he loves golfing.

One high-level Republican, conceding it may only be “wishful thinking,” even floated the idea of a Harris victory followed by Biden pardons of both his son, Hunter, and Trump. That would take the issue of both cases off Harris’ plate and, more to the point, drain the energy behind Trump’s persecution complex so that Republicans can get on with the business of winning elections.

But he would likely treat a pardon as an exoneration, and that would likely help him.

As they’ve demonstrated for going on a decade now, Republican leaders will repeatedly bow to the preference of their base over their own judgment when it comes to Trump.

Almost as if he is controlling his party with telepathy, like the Mule in the Foundation series.

Would the vast majority of Republican activists suddenly embrace their own version of the Democratic Leadership Council, which pushed Democrats toward the center after their repeated losses in the 1980s? Probably not.

Many would stew in fetid waters, believing their nominee was somehow cheated when the Democrats swapped in Harris for President Joe Biden. Those conspiracies would be nourished by, well, Trump himself and surely flourish in the closed-off information channels in which so many on the right confine themselves.

So, yes, moving past Trump in the aftermath of another defeat will hardly be easy.

But it’s essential if Republicans want to become a viable national party once more.

 Party divisions of United States Congresses and  Cyclical theory (United States history)

The last time the Republican Party had to do that, the party was out of the White House for 20 years, and in a minority in Congress for almost as long, back in the New Deal era.

It is basically impossible that Trump could run in 2028. He will either be dead, imprisoned, or so mentally deteriorated that he will need institutionalizing. Aside from all that he will have lost so much popularity and influence in the Republican Party that they will never again make the mistake of letting him be their presidential candidate again.
Also, to stand for president in 2028 means that he would have lost in 2024, as well as 2020, making him a two time consecutive losing candidate; so on that basis alone they wouldn't choose him.