Study Finds No Gay Gene. Will Leftists Accept Science Or Still Go With Their Feelings?

[Half-Life]

What's the problem with "it" being a "choice"?

It means you are cheering for people to not have kids of their own, which is regressive, not progressive.

Um....no. i have three sons.
One is gay.
I have high hopes for grandchilluns from all three of them.

Gay DOES NOT MEAN they can never have children. Hasn't since at least the 70s to my certain knowledge (that was when all those married guys with children were coming out of the closet).

So,1) no that is NOT what we are cheering for
2) gays-marrying-and-having-kids us pretty damned progressive
3) it's a three day weekend

Will your son have sex with a girl to have his kid?

Or will he freeze his sperm and get it implanted in a woman?

 

[Shadowy Man]

Will your son have sex with a girl to have his kid?

Or will he freeze his sperm and get it implanted in a woman?

None of your business.

And

Doesn’t matter.

 

[abaddon]

Turns out it's a choice.

So Halfie, if we accept your stupid idea that being gay is a choice, what is the next step? Shunning? Beating? Stoning to death? What is the purpose of your "othering"?

Half-Life,

Several persons have wondered "so what if it were a choice (even though it isn't)?" And Ziprhead asks the question that naturally follows from if it were a choice.

So, I wonder what your answer is? What is anyone supposed to do if it were a choice?

 

[Half-Life]

So Halfie, if we accept your stupid idea that being gay is a choice, what is the next step? Shunning? Beating? Stoning to death? What is the purpose of your "othering"?

Half-Life,

Several persons have wondered "so what if it were a choice (even though it isn't)?" And Ziprhead asks the question that naturally follows from if it were a choice.

So, I wonder what your answer to this question is? What is anyone supposed to do if you or anyone had successfully demonstrated it was a choice?

I would say it proves it is more of an act of rebellion (maybe against God or an absent parental figure) or a result of trauma or molestation in their youth.

Bible says men will become more feminine in the last days and today we see leftists are full of "soy boys" who act more like women than men. "Where are all the masculine men?" is a common question among the right these days. Men have become wimps and sissies just like the Bible said they would.

But, I do not advocate for violence so I advocate for no punishment. That would be up to God in the afterlife.

 

[abaddon]

I don't know what femininity has to do with it. The most square-headed high-testosterone macho men can be gay.

I've often wondered "What are these dumbasses conception of a 'real man'?" when reading some of the wimpy posts of conservatives. Those ungracious twerps with the "but what about us men?" or "what about us whites?" responses to anything. They see change as loss, and they see minorities or women gaining anything as unfair to themselves. I'm all for men having a high regard for their honor and dignity as men, and it starts with NOT BEING LIKE THAT.

"Wimps and sissies" has got jackshit to do with sexual orientation.

 

[Keith&Co.]

Will your son have sex with a girl to have his kid?

Or will he freeze his sperm and get it implanted in a woman?

I do not kniw. I don't even kniw what all the options will be when he and his partner make their decision.
But he already has options, so your entire premise. (No kids, regressive) is disproven by the two options you list.

So, big surprise, you are wrong again.

 

[Keith&Co.]

So Halfie, if we accept your stupid idea that being gay is a choice, what is the next step? Shunning? Beating? Stoning to death? What is the purpose of your "othering"?

Half-Life,

Several persons have wondered "so what if it were a choice (even though it isn't)?" And Ziprhead asks the question that naturally follows from if it were a choice.

So, I wonder what your answer to this question is? What is anyone supposed to do if you or anyone had successfully demonstrated it was a choice?

I would say it proves it is more of an act of rebellion (maybe against God or an absent parental figure) or a result of trauma or molestation in their youth.

You use 'proves' oddly.
How does it being a choice prove molestation?

That's just rightist prejudice.

Bible says men will become more feminine in the last days

where does it say this?

and today we see leftists are full of "soy boys" who act more like women than men. "Where are all the masculine men?" is a common question among the right these days.

cite?

Men have become wimps and sissies just like the Bible said they would.

cite?

 

[ZiprHead]

So Halfie, if we accept your stupid idea that being gay is a choice, what is the next step? Shunning? Beating? Stoning to death? What is the purpose of your "othering"?

Half-Life,

Several persons have wondered "so what if it were a choice (even though it isn't)?" And Ziprhead asks the question that naturally follows from if it were a choice.

So, I wonder what your answer to this question is? What is anyone supposed to do if you or anyone had successfully demonstrated it was a choice?

I would say it proves it is more of an act of rebellion (maybe against God or an absent parental figure) or a result of trauma or molestation in their youth.

Bible says men will become more feminine in the last days and today we see leftists are full of "soy boys" who act more like women than men. "Where are all the masculine men?" is a common question among the right these days. Men have become wimps and sissies just like the Bible said they would.

But, I do not advocate for violence so I advocate for no punishment. That would be up to God in the afterlife.

Here's a real man for you, Halfie.

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[Ford]

Who cares?

More specifically, why do people like HL get so worked up over the fact that a small percentage of the population is gay? What people do in their bedrooms doesn't affect them at all and is, in fact, none of their goddamned business. If them being "out" and flaunting their sexuality is so awful ("why do they have to shove it down out throats?!!!"), then tear down your fucking mega-churches, turn off your TV networks, and quit knocking on people's doors and handing out Bibles.

And when did being gay become "leftist?" Someone wanna check out how homosexuals were treated behind the Iron Curtain?

 

[Patooka]

So Halfie, if we accept your stupid idea that being gay is a choice, what is the next step? Shunning? Beating? Stoning to death? What is the purpose of your "othering"?

Half-Life,

Several persons have wondered "so what if it were a choice (even though it isn't)?" And Ziprhead asks the question that naturally follows from if it were a choice.

So, I wonder what your answer to this question is? What is anyone supposed to do if you or anyone had successfully demonstrated it was a choice?

I would say it proves it is more of an act of rebellion (maybe against God or an absent parental figure) or a result of trauma or molestation in their youth.

Bible says men will become more feminine in the last days and today we see leftists are full of "soy boys" who act more like women than men. "Where are all the masculine men?" is a common question among the right these days. Men have become wimps and sissies just like the Bible said they would.

But, I do not advocate for violence so I advocate for no punishment. That would be up to God in the afterlife.

None of that was taught to me, and I went to a Catholic high school where playing Rugby was mandatory up until year 10. You were given some pretty Taliban-esque lessons.

 

[SimpleDon]

I wonder if there is a gene that makes one a conservative? Or is it a choice?

Is there a gene that makes you so afraid of change that you believe crazy shit like white replacement theory and white genocide? That makes you terrified of foreigners, especially foreigners with more melanin in their skin than you have? A gene that increases your affinity for guns? And impairs your ability to reason so that you can't tell what is true from what is a lie?

Or is it like religion, a scourge imprinted on children by their parents?

Inquiring minds want to know.

 

[Politesse]

I wonder if there is a gene that makes one a conservative? Or is it a choice?

Is there a gene that makes you so afraid of change that you believe crazy shit like white replacement theory and white genocide? That makes you terrified of foreigners, especially foreigners with more melanin in their skin than you have? A gene that increases your affinity for guns? And impairs your ability to reason so that you can't tell what is true from what is a lie?

Or is it like religion, a scourge imprinted on children by their parents?

Inquiring minds want to know.

It seems to me that, like sexualities, the above things probably are affected by a vast array of genetic influences. For instance, parenting, which you mention, clearly has some instinctive elements to it

 

[bilby]

Hard to say, but for those that are curious...some details:

https://www.livescience.com/no-single-gene-makes-someone-gay.html

In the end, the scientists could not find any genetic patterns that could be used, in any way, to identify a person's sexual orientation. Instead, the predisposition to same-sex sexual behavior appeared influenced by a complex mix of genetic and environmental influences. That's also the case for many other human traits, such as height.

"It's effectively impossible to predict an individual's sexual behavior from their genome," study co-author Ben Neale, a statistical geneticist at the Broad Institute of MIT and Harvard, told Live Science.

However, the finding that there's no single gay gene does not mean that sexual orientation is not genetic or biological, and is therefore a lifestyle choice.

"This is wrong," study co-author Brendan Zietsch, a geneticist at the University of Queensland in Australia, told Live Science. "We find that there are many, many genes that predispose one to same-sex sexual behavior. Each of them individually has a very small effect, but together they have a substantial effect.

"Another possible misinterpretation is to think that if same-sex preference is genetically influenced, it must therefore be totally genetically determined," Zietsch added. "That is not true. Genetically identical individuals — twins — often have different sexual orientations. We know there are non-genetic influences as well, but we don't understand these well, and our study does not say anything about them."

There is no 'Tall Gene'. Therefore anyone who asks you to reach something on the top shelf should be told to fuck off - after all, it was their choice to be a shortarse.

 

[Keith&Co.]

There is no 'Tall Gene'.

bullshit.
Eugene Petty, over in Shipping, tops me by a head.

 

[Metaphor]

Hard to say, but for those that are curious...some details:

https://www.livescience.com/no-single-gene-makes-someone-gay.html

In the end, the scientists could not find any genetic patterns that could be used, in any way, to identify a person's sexual orientation. Instead, the predisposition to same-sex sexual behavior appeared influenced by a complex mix of genetic and environmental influences. That's also the case for many other human traits, such as height.

"It's effectively impossible to predict an individual's sexual behavior from their genome," study co-author Ben Neale, a statistical geneticist at the Broad Institute of MIT and Harvard, told Live Science.

However, the finding that there's no single gay gene does not mean that sexual orientation is not genetic or biological, and is therefore a lifestyle choice.

"This is wrong," study co-author Brendan Zietsch, a geneticist at the University of Queensland in Australia, told Live Science. "We find that there are many, many genes that predispose one to same-sex sexual behavior. Each of them individually has a very small effect, but together they have a substantial effect.

"Another possible misinterpretation is to think that if same-sex preference is genetically influenced, it must therefore be totally genetically determined," Zietsch added. "That is not true. Genetically identical individuals — twins — often have different sexual orientations. We know there are non-genetic influences as well, but we don't understand these well, and our study does not say anything about them."

There is no 'Tall Gene'. Therefore anyone who asks you to reach something on the top shelf should be told to fuck off - after all, it was their choice to be a shortarse.

Short people ask me to get things off the shelf all the time and I do it for them.

Tall people are a benevolent people.

 

[funinspace]

I would say it proves it is more of an act of rebellion (maybe against God or an absent parental figure) or a result of trauma or molestation in their youth.

Bible says men will become more feminine in the last days and today we see leftists are full of "soy boys" who act more like women than men. "Where are all the masculine men?" is a common question among the right these days. Men have become wimps and sissies just like the Bible said they would.

But, I do not advocate for violence so I advocate for no punishment. That would be up to God in the afterlife.

None of that was taught to me, and I went to a Catholic high school where playing Rugby was mandatory up until year 10. You were given some pretty Taliban-esque lessons.

That's cuz you weren't reading the Orange Catholic Bible

Borrowed from: http://jayharveyupstage.blogspot.com/2016/02/americas-trial-by-trump-sermon-on-stump.html

Cursed are the poor in spirit, for they are low-energy losers.
Cursed are they that mourn my popularity, for they must not want to make America great
again.
Cursed are the merciful, for they want to admit Mexican rapists and Syrian refugees to
the United States, even though some of them must be Muslim terrorists.
Cursed are the pure in heart, because they don’t get why we need waterboarding —
and worse — to win the war against ISIS.
Cursed are the peacemakers, for they don’t care that our military is a disaster.
Cursed are those which are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for they probably deserve it,
and most kinds of righteousness have nothing to do with the art of the deal.

(Cheers swell from the throng)

You are the salt of the earth — I thank you, I love you, I love you!
But if the salt loses its savor, that's what you get when you vote for Ted Cruz.

 

[Elixir]

It takes a special kind of stupid to fail to understand that there is literally NO social or sexual behavior that is dictated by "a gene".

 

[Trausti]

It takes a special kind of stupid to fail to understand that there is literally NO social or sexual behavior that is dictated by "a gene".

Right. Not a gene but many genes of small effect.

 

[Elixir]

It takes a special kind of stupid to fail to understand that there is literally NO social or sexual behavior that is dictated by "a gene".

Right. Not a gene but many genes of small effect.

Yes, and it's the tendencies and proclivities tendered by multiple genetic factors, interacting with environmental constraints and opportunities that result in "behaviors". But that is far too complex for the bumper-sticker mentality of right wing extremists.

 

[Trausti]

It takes a special kind of stupid to fail to understand that there is literally NO social or sexual behavior that is dictated by "a gene".

Right. Not a gene but many genes of small effect.

Yes, and it's the tendencies and proclivities tendered by multiple genetic factors, interacting with environmental constraints and opportunities that result in "behaviors". But that is far too complex for the bumper-sticker mentality of right wing extremists.

Left wing extremists, too.