The heartbreaking reality of a teenage girl's sex life

[Tigers!]

The most shocking thing in this thread so far is how no one has beat on Tswizzle for referencing the Daily Mail. as his source.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

 

[Tigers!]

I'd thought I read quite a while ago that exposure to porn actually reduces rape and sexual abuse. The theory being that a person so inclined to do such things gets his sexual desires satiated from porn instead. Seems reasonable. Though I also wonder if high def Free Access to Porn (aka FAP), is also somewhat responsible for the sharp decline in marriage rates in recent years. Just rub one out and go back to your video games and Cheetos (until the hornyness builds up again, then rinse and repeat).

Yup. The wide availability of porn results in a major reduction in actual sexual assault. (IIRC something like an 80% reduction.) Observed over many countries.

So much much porn would reduce actual sexual assault by 100%? Do any studies suggest that?

 

[Toni]

I'd thought I read quite a while ago that exposure to porn actually reduces rape and sexual abuse. The theory being that a person so inclined to do such things gets his sexual desires satiated from porn instead. Seems reasonable. Though I also wonder if high def Free Access to Porn (aka FAP), is also somewhat responsible for the sharp decline in marriage rates in recent years. Just rub one out and go back to your video games and Cheetos (until the hornyness builds up again, then rinse and repeat).

Yup. The wide availability of porn results in a major reduction in actual sexual assault. (IIRC something like an 80% reduction.) Observed over many countries.

We also see an effect with the release of violent movies causing a short term reduction in vandalism/petty violence. (And with no rebound--it's not that they were in the theaters then and commit their crimes some other day.)

I'd be very interested in knowing who funded these 'studies.'

 

[Emily Lake]

I'd thought I read quite a while ago that exposure to porn actually reduces rape and sexual abuse. The theory being that a person so inclined to do such things gets his sexual desires satiated from porn instead. Seems reasonable. Though I also wonder if high def Free Access to Porn (aka FAP), is also somewhat responsible for the sharp decline in marriage rates in recent years. Just rub one out and go back to your video games and Cheetos (until the hornyness builds up again, then rinse and repeat).

Yup. The wide availability of porn results in a major reduction in actual sexual assault. (IIRC something like an 80% reduction.) Observed over many countries.

We also see an effect with the release of violent movies causing a short term reduction in vandalism/petty violence. (And with no rebound--it's not that they were in the theaters then and commit their crimes some other day.)

I'd be very interested in knowing who funded these 'studies.'

I suspect it's the same kind of people who push to legalize "sex work" even though it increases human trafficking and sexual slavery.

Sex work is 'work' in pretty much the same way that slavery is a 'job'.

 

[TSwizzle]

The OP started with the observation that porn (hardcore) is a huge problem. Affects both genders in different ways, none of which are good or useful.
Perhaps we need to go back there.
Surely the sheer ubiquity of porn is considered to be a major problem.
If so what are we prepared to do about it?

The sheer ubiquity of porn is only a small part of the problem in my opinion. And it would be near impossible to curtail its availability to young people but I think some effort should be made to control access to it. I think all porn should be moved off the .com extension and moved to something else, .prn or something. And allow parents to block .prn sites from home network and their kid's devices. Very difficult to do and would require major cooperation from the tech industry and the porn content creators too. Tik-tok, instagram etc should also be as vigilant about porn content on their platform as they are about pictures of a mother breast feeding.

But realistically, throttling the access to porn just doesn't seem viable. It's going to have to come down to education and what to do with porn.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I'd thought I read quite a while ago that exposure to porn actually reduces rape and sexual abuse. The theory being that a person so inclined to do such things gets his sexual desires satiated from porn instead. Seems reasonable. Though I also wonder if high def Free Access to Porn (aka FAP), is also somewhat responsible for the sharp decline in marriage rates in recent years. Just rub one out and go back to your video games and Cheetos (until the hornyness builds up again, then rinse and repeat).

Yup. The wide availability of porn results in a major reduction in actual sexual assault. (IIRC something like an 80% reduction.) Observed over many countries.

We also see an effect with the release of violent movies causing a short term reduction in vandalism/petty violence. (And with no rebound--it's not that they were in the theaters then and commit their crimes some other day.)

I'd be very interested in knowing who funded these 'studies.'

The pattern has been observed across many countries so I doubt it's just one study. Unfortunately, such things tend to be behind paywalls. Some stuff I do find, though:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...evidence-mounts-more-porn-less-sexual-assault

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-sunny-side-of-smut/

Sex offenders commonly report porn helps them keep their desires in the realm of imagination.

 

[Tigers!]

I'd be very interested in knowing who funded these 'studies.'

The pattern has been observed across many countries so I doubt it's just one study. Unfortunately, such things tend to be behind paywalls. Some stuff I do find, though:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...evidence-mounts-more-porn-less-sexual-assault

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-sunny-side-of-smut/

Sex offenders commonly report porn helps them keep their desires in the realm of imagination.

I find the last comment non-feasible. Such offenders are lying.
My father did extensive work with sex offenders in Australian prisons. He says that all sex offenders were addicted to porn. They get addicted so much that just like drug users the existing 'fix' is not enough. So they increase the dose. For sex offenders this means going from visual imagery to people. He says that there is no safe level of porn for anyone.

 

[Tigers!]

The OP started with the observation that porn (hardcore) is a huge problem. Affects both genders in different ways, none of which are good or useful.
Perhaps we need to go back there.
Surely the sheer ubiquity of porn is considered to be a major problem.
If so what are we prepared to do about it?

The sheer ubiquity of porn is only a small part of the problem in my opinion. And it would be near impossible to curtail its availability to young people but I think some effort should be made to control access to it. I think all porn should be moved off the .com extension and moved to something else, .prn or something. And allow parents to block .prn sites from home network and their kid's devices. Very difficult to do and would require major cooperation from the tech industry and the porn content creators too. Tik-tok, instagram etc should also be as vigilant about porn content on their platform as they are about pictures of a mother breast feeding.

But realistically, throttling the access to porn just doesn't seem viable. It's going to have to come down to education and what to do with porn.

Sadly i agree with the 2nd last statement

 

[Emily Lake]

I find the last comment non-feasible. Such offenders are lying.
My father did extensive work with sex offenders in Australian prisons. He says that all sex offenders were addicted to porn. They get addicted so much that just like drug users the existing 'fix' is not enough. So they increase the dose. For sex offenders this means going from visual imagery to people. He says that there is no safe level of porn for anyone.

I could see an argument that for a horny college kid, porn might prevent them from getting out of hand while drunk and date-raping a girl. But not for sex offenders. Like you said, it doesn't seem to work that way, unless the "researcher" is trying to support a pre-existing belief.

It's up there with the people preaching that "Sex Work is Work", and pretending that legalizing prostitution is "empowering" to women... while simultaneously ignoring that legalized prostitution increases human trafficking for the purpose of sexual slavery and makes it legal to exploit vulnerable people.

 

[Tigers!]

I find the last comment non-feasible. Such offenders are lying.
My father did extensive work with sex offenders in Australian prisons. He says that all sex offenders were addicted to porn. They get addicted so much that just like drug users the existing 'fix' is not enough. So they increase the dose. For sex offenders this means going from visual imagery to people. He says that there is no safe level of porn for anyone.

I could see an argument that for a horny college kid, porn might prevent them from getting out of hand while drunk and date-raping a girl. But not for sex offenders. Like you said, it doesn't seem to work that way, unless the "researcher" is trying to support a pre-existing belief.

It's up there with the people preaching that "Sex Work is Work", and pretending that legalizing prostitution is "empowering" to women... while simultaneously ignoring that legalized prostitution increases human trafficking for the purpose of sexual slavery and makes it legal to exploit vulnerable people.

Yes cognitive dissonance appears in some unusual places at times.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I'd be very interested in knowing who funded these 'studies.'

The pattern has been observed across many countries so I doubt it's just one study. Unfortunately, such things tend to be behind paywalls. Some stuff I do find, though:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...evidence-mounts-more-porn-less-sexual-assault

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-sunny-side-of-smut/

Sex offenders commonly report porn helps them keep their desires in the realm of imagination.

I find the last comment non-feasible. Such offenders are lying.
My father did extensive work with sex offenders in Australian prisons. He says that all sex offenders were addicted to porn. They get addicted so much that just like drug users the existing 'fix' is not enough. So they increase the dose. For sex offenders this means going from visual imagery to people. He says that there is no safe level of porn for anyone.

If that were the case then we would see an increase in sex crimes with widespread porn. We don't.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

I find the last comment non-feasible. Such offenders are lying.
My father did extensive work with sex offenders in Australian prisons. He says that all sex offenders were addicted to porn. They get addicted so much that just like drug users the existing 'fix' is not enough. So they increase the dose. For sex offenders this means going from visual imagery to people. He says that there is no safe level of porn for anyone.

I could see an argument that for a horny college kid, porn might prevent them from getting out of hand while drunk and date-raping a girl. But not for sex offenders. Like you said, it doesn't seem to work that way, unless the "researcher" is trying to support a pre-existing belief.

It's up there with the people preaching that "Sex Work is Work", and pretending that legalizing prostitution is "empowering" to women... while simultaneously ignoring that legalized prostitution increases human trafficking for the purpose of sexual slavery and makes it legal to exploit vulnerable people.

I think what's going on is if you get off to porn the desire to do more is lessened.