It’s still unclear to me if you think that there is a difference between drunken sex that one or the other regrets and raping someone who is too drunk to effectively fight off an attempted rape.
There is a huge difference, but unfortunately, colleges and feminists have been lumping them all together. What's worse, when both parties are drunk and have a mutual sex, the guy is deemed the rapist and the woman "too drunk to consent" even though they both did the same thing. See that CCU poster I posted.
Or perhaps you believe that college girls who go to parties on campus know what they’re getting into and it’s not rape no matter how strong or drugged the drink.
It depends. If they get drunk deliberately, and then regret their actions with equally drunk guys the next morning, then that's just life. That's different than somebody spiking someone's drink with some drug without their knowledge. Again, the "rape culture" nonsense and Obama/Biden's 2011 "Dear Colleague" policy change muddled the difference.
Or perhaps you see college boys as being so sexually driven that it is to be expected that of course they will jump on anything they get a chance to.
Young people be horny. And having consensual sex and regretting it the next morning, or next year (see Vassar false rape case) does not a rape make. Except in the minds of radical feminists. And even then, only to blame young men. Never young women.
Of course rape is more prevalent for women 18-24 who are NOT college students compared with women of the same age who are college students. Perhaps you are one of those people who think that women are t really raped unless they were beaten bloody or had a weapon held to their neck. I can’t tell.
So you admit that the claims of "college rape epidemic" were just scaremongering?
And as to the latter, no, that's not the only way a rape can happen, but it is certainly easier to
prove that a rape happened in such a scenario.
If it helps think of it this way: Two party goers each leave a party very drunk, and are not steady on their feet. One gets into their vehicle and starts to drive home. The other decides to walk home. The driver strikes the pedestrian with their vehicle, leaving the pedestrian with serious injuries.
The driver is still guilty of drunk driving, even if the pedestrian was also drunk.
So, to you, a penis is the equivalent of a car? Both men and women can be active participants in sex, just like both men and women can drive drunk. There is no reason, other than radical feminist ideology, to treat drunk men differently than drunk women.
I am not certain why you are blaming the Dems for Clinton’s impeachment. They voted against the charges brought by the republicans.
He is saying that Dems these days act is a similarly stupid fashion as Reps did during the Clinton impeachment.
But it is actually a crime to use campaign funds to pay hush money to anybody.
A misdemeanor whose statute of limitations had long expired. Bragg had to resort to legal pretzels to prosecute that case, and it backfired since it made Trump more popular and helped him win reelection.
Speaking of Bragg, he gave a sweetheart deal to a stabbist murderer who has a history of knife crime.
Jaia Cruz admits stabbing postal worker to death in Harlem deli, gets 15 years
Woman accused of stabbing postal worker over spot in NYC deli line has history of knife violence
Cruz ranks high on the progressive stack - trans, "of color", Hispanic. Probably explains the short sentence (nominally 15 years, but will probably get out in less than 10).
FWIW, I never liked Bill Clinton, did not see him as trustworthy ( nothing to do with his sex life) and never voted for him.
Who did you vote for in 1992 and 1996? Ross Perot?
Overall, Clinton was a good president, although he made mistakes. Like siding with Shiptars over Kosovo and bombing Serbia.
I don’t personally think it is infantilizing women to say that sex with someone who is altered by either drugs or alcohol is unable to give consent.
It is when you apply that only to women and not men in the same state of inebriation. Also, millions of people have sex after drinking or doing drugs. There is a wide range of intoxication between stone-cold-sober and too-drunk/high-to-consent. Just because a woman was drunk or smoked weed or whatever does not mean she was too drunk to consent. And if she is, then so is he. So, mutual rape? What's sauce for the gander should be sauce of the goose too. But no, feminists like you do not think that. You think the woman is automatically the victim.
Being told they ‘wanted it’ is definitely infantilizing them
No, it's saying that women are equally responsible for their own choices as men are. Even if they regret it the next morning, or the next year, what matters is what they wanted at the time.
and it also infantilizes men to believe that they are not responsible for their own actions with regards to sex and aggression.
What about women being responsible for their own actions?
(See above for comparison of two drunk party goers). I believe that men and boys can be raped and can be raped by girls and women and that all rape is reprehensible, repugnant, illegal, and wrong. Full stop.
Do you think drunk sex is automatically rape?
College campuses have an obligation— legal and moral—for the safety of their students.
Including safety from false rape allegations. Instead of being accomplices to them.
This is the biggest reasons college campuses restrict the use of drugs or alcohol on campus as both create dangers for students partaking as well as anyone else around them.
I think it would be healthier to acknowledge that most students will partake and that many will have sex afterwards. And not assume that if a woman had been drinking that she is automatically a victim.
Locally, every academic year, there are a couple of college kids who die of acute alcohol poisoning. I’m told by someone with connections to the local PD and hospital, that number is larger- and that these are hushed up as much as possible. A couple make it to the local news. It is a difficult line to walk to encourage young adults to become more independent while creating and supporting an atmosphere that helps keep them safe even as they engage in risky behavior and take more responsibility for their actions.
Banning alcohol on campus drives it underground and actually increases the chance of things like that happening. Raising the drinking age to 21 was a huge mistake, as it made it impossible to teach teenagers and young adults how to approach alcohol in a healthy and safe fashion.
