The Race For 2024

[laughing dog]

He didn't incite the riot in the Capital. He told people to peacefully go home. He did not tell them to enter the Capital. He did not tell them to invade the Capital. He did not tell them to steal the lectern. He did not tell them to go into Nancy Pelosi's office and take her laptop. He didn't even tell the police to shoot one person and cause the one death that occurred during the incident.

He did, however, order the strike that killed Nawar Al-Awlaki. But you don't want to talk about that for some reason.

If he didn't do those things why have multiple 1/6ers thought they were following his instructions? Just because he didn't spell it out in a 72 point font doesn't mean the message wasn't communicated.

As for Nawar Al-Awlaki--a human shield died in a strike on a terrorist. It happens. Ugly, but the only alternative is to surrender to the terrorists.

There were idiots on his side who thought he gave instructions. There are also idiots against him who think he gave instructions. Idiots gonna idiot. Produce quotes if you want to convince me otherwise.

I'm glad you are comfortable with war crimes, we're in for a lot more of them in the future.

You need to show a war crime.

A civilian dying from a strike doesn't make it a war crime.

Killing a little girl ought to be a war crime. Not killing a little girl is not surrendering to the terrorists.

Jason Harvestdancer's forecast appears accurate: we are in for a lot more of them in the future regardless of who is in charge.

However, his apologia for Trump is as predictable as it is wrong.

 

[Shadowy Man]

He didn't incite the riot in the Capital. He told people to peacefully go home. He did not tell them to enter the Capital. He did not tell them to invade the Capital. He did not tell them to steal the lectern. He did not tell them to go into Nancy Pelosi's office and take her laptop. He didn't even tell the police to shoot one person and cause the one death that occurred during the incident.

He did, however, order the strike that killed Nawar Al-Awlaki. But you don't want to talk about that for some reason.

If he didn't do those things why have multiple 1/6ers thought they were following his instructions? Just because he didn't spell it out in a 72 point font doesn't mean the message wasn't communicated.

As for Nawar Al-Awlaki--a human shield died in a strike on a terrorist. It happens. Ugly, but the only alternative is to surrender to the terrorists.

There were idiots on his side who thought he gave instructions. There are also idiots against him who think he gave instructions. Idiots gonna idiot. Produce quotes if you want to convince me otherwise.

I'm glad you are comfortable with war crimes, we're in for a lot more of them in the future.

You need to show a war crime.

A civilian dying from a strike doesn't make it a war crime.

Cheato sat around and watched 1/6 unfold on TV and DID NOTHING. Even when his VP had death threats.

And you conveniently forgot that.

According to him, as he said during the debate when asked if he regretted anything about that day, it wasn’t his responsibility to secure the Capitol. That was Nancy Pelosi’s job.

 

[Ford]

According to him, as he said during the debate when asked if he regretted anything about that day, it wasn’t his responsibility to secure the Capitol. That was Nancy Pelosi’s job.

As some have correctly pointed out, he mentioned "the people on our side" over and over. Like...he didn't grasp that he was supposed to be on the side of defending the Capitol. You were the head of the government, you ignorant fuckstick, and you were standing up for the people who were attacking your government.

 

[Shadowy Man]

According to him, as he said during the debate when asked if he regretted anything about that day, it wasn’t his responsibility to secure the Capitol. That was Nancy Pelosi’s job.

As some have correctly pointed out, he mentioned "the people on our side" over and over. Like...he didn't grasp that he was supposed to be on the side of defending the Capitol. You were the head of the government, you ignorant fuckstick, and you were standing up for the people who were attacking your government.

Yes. And irrespective of all his other crimes, that alone would make him at best merely unqualified to be President and at worst treasonous.

That anyone would prefer him over any other Republican candidate shows how much his supporters truly prefer authoritarianism over democracy.

 

[Ford]

According to him, as he said during the debate when asked if he regretted anything about that day, it wasn’t his responsibility to secure the Capitol. That was Nancy Pelosi’s job.

As some have correctly pointed out, he mentioned "the people on our side" over and over. Like...he didn't grasp that he was supposed to be on the side of defending the Capitol. You were the head of the government, you ignorant fuckstick, and you were standing up for the people who were attacking your government.

Yes. And irrespective of all his other crimes, that alone would make him at best merely unqualified to be President and at worst treasonous.

And while his boast that the J6 crowd was the biggest ever is obviously false, he was right that a lot of people showed up. By some estimates, his speech on the ellipse was attended by north of 50,000 people. The FBI estimates that between 2,000 and 2,500 people breached the Capitol on that day.

Even if we accept that half of the people who showed up never marched down to the Capitol, that still leaves over 25,000 "patriots" who - when they saw the seat of government of the United States being attacked by an angry mob (allegedly "Antifa" or whatever) - stood by and did NOTHING TO STOP THEM.

 

[Shadowy Man]

According to him, as he said during the debate when asked if he regretted anything about that day, it wasn’t his responsibility to secure the Capitol. That was Nancy Pelosi’s job.

As some have correctly pointed out, he mentioned "the people on our side" over and over. Like...he didn't grasp that he was supposed to be on the side of defending the Capitol. You were the head of the government, you ignorant fuckstick, and you were standing up for the people who were attacking your government.

Yes. And irrespective of all his other crimes, that alone would make him at best merely unqualified to be President and at worst treasonous.

And while his boast that the J6 crowd was the biggest ever is obviously false, he was right that a lot of people showed up. By some estimates, his speech on the ellipse was attended by north of 50,000 people. The FBI estimates that between 2,000 and 2,500 people breached the Capitol on that day.

Even if we accept that half of the people who showed up never marched down to the Capitol, that still leaves over 25,000 "patriots" who - when they saw the seat of government of the United States being attacked by an angry mob (allegedly "Antifa" or whatever) - stood by and did NOTHING TO STOP THEM.

As far as they know the people were let in by the cops for a tour.

 

[Jimmy Higgins]

So, yesterday Trump went there. As noted previously, this whole pet thing was a bullhorn and he went full on anti-globalist (ie anti-Semitic) yesterday.

So the mayor of Springfield, and I think he's a very nice person. But instead of saying we're getting them all out, we're getting them out, he says, very simply, ‘we're hiring teachers to teach them English.’

“Could you believe it? ‘We are hiring interpreters.’ So when they go to school and take the place of our children in school, we have an interpreter. Each one will have a private interpreter. What the hell is wrong with our country?

Link

Yup, Replacement theory.

As a reminder, the Haitians are here LEGALLY. Not even a complaint about illegals anymore, it is about the dirty, ignorant, mongrels. Our country is losing its soul. He said this and the crowd was angry about how 'they' are trying to 'replace' us. MTG has helped tell us who the 'they' is. The marchers at Charlottesville told us who the 'they' was.

The Trump Campaign is a campaign for anti-Semitism.

 

[southernhybrid]

I do wonder if anyone's vote is based on the tv ads that are constantly being run in Georgia. There will be one for Harris, almost always followed by one for Trump, that does nothing but bash Harris, calling her a commie or saying she is destroying the economy etc. Too bad people are too stupid to realize that wages have run up more than prices have over the last several years, and that inflation is now down to about 2.5%, what is considered about right, or that deflation is much worse than mild inflation, or that the recent inflation was a global problem and the US had lower inflation compared to many other countries. The list goes on, but sadly Americans only "see what they want to see and disregard the rest". People are so fucking dumb when it comes to basic economics, among other things. It seems as if money could be better spent than on tv ads. Besides we record most of what we watch, other than having the news on in the morning, so we don't even see political commercials.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

You need to show a war crime.

A civilian dying from a strike doesn't make it a war crime.

Killing a little girl ought to be a war crime. Not killing a little girl is not surrendering to the terrorists.

Jason Harvestdancer's forecast appears accurate: we are in for a lot more of them in the future regardless of who is in charge.

However, his apologia for Trump is as predictable as it is wrong.

Saying it ought to be a war crime is showing your lack of comprehension of war. Look at what Geneva actually says about what's a war crime!

 

[Loren Pechtel]

According to him, as he said during the debate when asked if he regretted anything about that day, it wasn’t his responsibility to secure the Capitol. That was Nancy Pelosi’s job.

As some have correctly pointed out, he mentioned "the people on our side" over and over. Like...he didn't grasp that he was supposed to be on the side of defending the Capitol. You were the head of the government, you ignorant fuckstick, and you were standing up for the people who were attacking your government.

Ignorant? He knew which side he was on, that was evil, not ignorance.

 

[Loren Pechtel]

Even if we accept that half of the people who showed up never marched down to the Capitol, that still leaves over 25,000 "patriots" who - when they saw the seat of government of the United States being attacked by an angry mob (allegedly "Antifa" or whatever) - stood by and did NOTHING TO STOP THEM.

You realize that trying to intervene would have been horrendously unsafe? You do not want to do anything to look like a member of a group that's going against armed defenders.

 

[TV and credit cards]

Looks like it's yours to lose, KH. There's only one thing you have to do: The right thing. I mean Trump ain't picking up the Muslim vote. Stein's platform better recognizes Palestinians and rejects the Zionist movement.


Muslim Americans moving to Jill Stein in potential blow to Kamala Harris

 

[Copernicus]

Looks like it's yours to lose, KH. There's only one thing you have to do: The right thing. I mean Trump ain't picking up the Muslim vote. Stein's platform better recognizes Palestinians and rejects the Zionist movement.


Muslim Americans moving to Jill Stein in potential blow to Kamala Harris

The pro-Israel vote is not insignificant, and Harris still has to toe the administration line on giving Netanyahu whatever he wants in the end. She can only lose by getting embroiled in this issue. Stein is once again carrying water for Donald Trump in a critical swing state. If she were not on the ballot, many of those voters would probably go to Harris rather than Trump, who is no less enthusiastic about giving Israel whatever it wants. After all, Netanyahu made a beeline right for Mar-a-Lago when he last visited. Unfortunately, too many Americans seem oblivious to the fact that voting for a third party candidate is essentially voting to let other people determine which major party candidate wins an election, and it's usually the one that is least compatible with their own politics. So I imagine that Stein is now awash in Republican money--the same money that was backing RFK Jr's failed campaign.

 

[TomC]

Unfortunately, too many Americans seem oblivious to the fact that voting for a third party candidate is essentially voting to let other people determine which major party candidate wins an election,

This.

Lots of people don't seem to grasp that, under our current system, there are only three options for President. The Dem, the Rep, and "whoever wins between the Democrats and Republicans"

At the moment, those are Trump and Harris. It might make them feel righteous, but any vote that is not for Harris may as well be a vote for the candidate most likely to sell his policies to the highest bidder. In this case that's Trump selling his services to AIPAC and such.

This is not some secret, it's obvious. A vote for anyone but Harris, or not voting, is a vote for Bibi and AIPAC.
Tom

 

[Elixir]

A vote for anyone but Harris, or not voting, is a vote for Bibi and AIPAC.

... and Putin and Xi and Kim and Orban and Duterte and Bin Salmon... boy, the apricot has a lot of friends.

 

[southernhybrid]

Looks like it's yours to lose, KH. There's only one thing you have to do: The right thing. I mean Trump ain't picking up the Muslim vote. Stein's platform better recognizes Palestinians and rejects the Zionist movement.


Muslim Americans moving to Jill Stein in potential blow to Kamala Harris

The pro-Israel vote is not insignificant, and Harris still has to toe the administration line on giving Netanyahu whatever he wants in the end. She can only lose by getting embroiled in this issue. Stein is once again carrying water for Donald Trump in a critical swing state. If she were not on the ballot, many of those voters would probably go to Harris rather than Trump, who is no less enthusiastic about giving Israel whatever it wants. After all, Netanyahu made a beeline right for Mar-a-Lago when he last visited. Unfortunately, too many Americans seem oblivious to the fact that voting for a third party candidate is essentially voting to let other people determine which major party candidate wins an election, and it's usually the one that is least compatible with their own politics. So I imagine that Stein is now awash in Republican money--the same money that was backing RFK Jr's failed campaign.

I read that Stein is polling at less than 1% in swing states, so hopefully, those who vote for her aren't going to change the outcome of this election. The Mideast is a mess and I don't think we can fix it. Plus, if we totally abandon Israel, will that be a gift to Iran? It's complicated. I agree that Trump would be much worse than the current administration for Arabic countries.

 

[blastula]

‘I’m a black NAZI!’: NC GOP nominee for governor made dozens of disturbing comments on porn forum - CNN

Mark Robinson already is known for a ton of unhinged statements made publicly. One could only imagine what he says in semi-private, but now we don't have to.

Hope he does not get to drop out.

 

[laughing dog]

You need to show a war crime.

A civilian dying from a strike doesn't make it a war crime.

Killing a little girl ought to be a war crime. Not killing a little girl is not surrendering to the terrorists.

Jason Harvestdancer's forecast appears accurate: we are in for a lot more of them in the future regardless of who is in charge.

However, his apologia for Trump is as predictable as it is wrong.

Saying it ought to be a war crime is showing your lack of comprehension of war. Look at what Geneva actually says about what's a war crime!

There is an obvious difference between what Geneva says about what's a war crime and what Geneva OUGHT to say about what's a war crime.

 

[hurtinbuckaroo]

Looks like it's yours to lose, KH. There's only one thing you have to do: The right thing. I mean Trump ain't picking up the Muslim vote. Stein's platform better recognizes Palestinians and rejects the Zionist movement.


Muslim Americans moving to Jill Stein in potential blow to Kamala Harris

The pro-Israel vote is not insignificant, and Harris still has to toe the administration line on giving Netanyahu whatever he wants in the end. She can only lose by getting embroiled in this issue. Stein is once again carrying water for Donald Trump in a critical swing state. If she were not on the ballot, many of those voters would probably go to Harris rather than Trump, who is no less enthusiastic about giving Israel whatever it wants. After all, Netanyahu made a beeline right for Mar-a-Lago when he last visited. Unfortunately, too many Americans seem oblivious to the fact that voting for a third party candidate is essentially voting to let other people determine which major party candidate wins an election, and it's usually the one that is least compatible with their own politics. So I imagine that Stein is now awash in Republican money--the same money that was backing RFK Jr's failed campaign.

I just saw a BBC interview of Muslim women in Michigan who say they’ll vote 3rd party, which makes it more likely that Trump will win. And if he does, not only will Israel get everything they want, these people will be harassed in their own communities.

 

[ZiprHead]